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Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
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Programs rely on innovative webmasters to bring traffic from all sorts of sources.
This will never change.
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i agree with damagex
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![]() Anyway, you mentioned affiliates, all types of adult sites, 404 traffic and search engines. You omitted purchased traffic, which I was referring to in the first place.
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A staff member can never replace a motivated affiliate. Never.
And besides: im a fucking idiot.. nex to adwords i wouldnt have a clue where to pull traffic from. Every project i have running is based on affiliates as its engine. I would be lost!! |
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Right, and where do you think purchased traffic comes from? It is aggrigated from the afformentioned places I specified.
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![]() Yes, it's aggregated from the abovementioned sources. You didn't get my point though, so I won't draw out this argument anymore.
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Affiliate programs were opened for 1 main reason: make money off of affiliates.
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DamageX contact me
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bottom line is 2257 should have no affect on non-us webmasters. And there are plenty of very good affiliate programs out there that are also not US owned.
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You didn't get my point... If you don't have affiliates, you don't have TGP's either... or other sources for aggrigating traffic. You think theHun.net is going to host over 3 million hits a day in bandwidth for free?
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affiliates are good.. inhouse people are good. Call me the fucking weaver but this either or argument is stupid... proggies aren't going to get rid of affiliates.. affiliates shouldn't make up 100% of your traffic. done.
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I think I am finally starting to see your point.. And I agree with it in part. But I guess the underlying fact is that the market will shape itself. Currently most affiliate programs became affiliate programs because they didn't want to do what affiliates do or to escape out of being an affiliate.
Though, I guess with the power of suggesting, a lot of things can change. I am sure there are a lot of smaller spondors out there who'd like to increase their traffic flow and possibly even keep the affiliates around too. |
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One of the reasons why I think many sponsors have done this yet is because doing this would mean either taking time off from what they're currently doing (namely managing the business) and teaching staff how to grow sites (many sponsors have histories of TGP-ing and CJ-ing), or hiring staff who already knows what to do. Most people who already know what they're doing won't come cheap. Taking time off from managing the business to train staff might end them up with a higher alternative cost. Basically, people like sticking to what they do best and makes them most money. What I'm thinking here is, has it ever occured to anyone that they could hire someone to train their staff?
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More opinions, please?
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You ever tried to train a bunch of lazy morons? Workers that call in sick, steal etc.. Fuck that LOL
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Oh I see, you would go in and do training seminars for a company get paid trying to teach thier workers how to get traffic?
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aren't quite some programs doing this allready next to having regular affiliates?
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This is a flawed idea, what makes you think that the people that get results done (mind you with several sponsors) would want to downgrade to a monthly paycheck for much less money...
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DamageX can you please contact me on icq
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could work, but as an affiliate my self I rather not see it work
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LOL what about the 6 months of orders you already have :P
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And once you train these staff, don't you think the good ones will leave the company when they find out they can make more money on their own! |
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design nothing do with traffic, and your design work is worster than $65" designers
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of dealing with every damn whining affiliate? Think about it, have a bunch of people on your staff, building TGP's/MGP's/galleries/free sites, only for you. You wouldn't have to rely on affiliates to get your signups." |
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If you are at the top of the elite pile when it comes to any and all methods of generating traffic you won't want to be travelling around teaching your methods to others without a MASSIVE pay-off which would obviously have to be written by the sponsor... say bye-bye to your increased profit margins from canning affiliates. |
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I've already been down this road before and it ends in an inescapable catch-22.
The sponsors that can afford the services don't need them. The sponsors that need the services can't afford them. |
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Traffic is also a zero-sum game.
If you teach more and more people your methods the smaller the pie gets and the less people will be willing to pay you. Focusing on something like increasing member retention & cross sales gives you much more scalability. |
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