FACT: IBill is back as Segpay!

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  • whatif_3
    Registered User
    • Jul 2004
    • 459

    #1

    FACT: IBill is back as Segpay!

    Below you will see how Segpay has the same address/location as ibill, and how the CEO of segpay (chris williams) is also the domain registrant of inteca, their "trusted 3rd party" (they promote that their payments are safe because "Segregated Payments partners with Inteca to move your money directly from the acquiring bank into a segregated account where your funds are physically held until paid out to you. This means that those funds are not being 'borrowed' to pay other clients or used in any way.")

    Segway = Toccata
    Toccata Ltd is a U.K. financial services company formed in 1999 to provide currency exchange products to ecommerce merchants. ( http://segpay.com/about.htm)

    address of toccata:
    TOCCATA, Inc.
    2200 SW 10th St.
    Deerfield Beach, FL 33442

    (http://web.archive.org/web/200306182.../frameset6.htm )


    address of ibill:
    C. iBill allows you to access to certain information about you for the limited purpose of viewing, updating, and in some instances deleting from our system any information deemed inaccurate. Any requests to access your information may be directed to: [email protected], Office of the General Counsel, Internet Billing Company, Ltd., 2200 SW 10th Street, Deerfield Beach, FL 33442-7622, Fax. 954.363.4401, and Tel. 954.363.4400 .(http://www.ibill.com/about/privacy.cfm)


    Chris Williams is CEO of Toccata/segpay (http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.php/28681 ) and toccata.com is registered in his name. Chris Williams is also the registrant of inteca.org, now the "3rd party trustee" for ibill/segpay and inteca.org and toccata.com go to the same IP:

    Toccata = Inteca (same ip address)
    Tracing route to inteca.org [209.61.190.42]
    Tracing route to toccata.com [209.61.190.42]


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  • Daymare
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    • Feb 2002
    • 2674

    #2
    lukeford?

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    • seeric
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      • Aug 2004
      • 41917

      #3
      Originally posted by Daymare
      lukeford?



      not sure, but regardless, i;d like to know if they tried to get back in.

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      • Relish XXX
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2004
        • 4904

        #4
        It was pretty obvious that Inteca was Ibill. The two sites looked identical.

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        • imageman
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          • Jun 2003
          • 1938

          #5
          Fuck Ibill

          Fucking ball sucking C-U-N-T-s

          Originally posted by Relish XXX
          It was pretty obvious that Inteca was Ibill. The two sites looked identical.

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          • whatif_3
            Registered User
            • Jul 2004
            • 459

            #6
            Originally posted by Daymare
            lukeford?
            your giving him too much credit

            any comment from ibill on this? mike sperber/sperbonzo?

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            • Machete_
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              • Oct 2002
              • 14579

              #7
              grest work.... really
              But then again - why should they not get a second chance? thig might have learned something from going down

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              • xXxtreme2005
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                • Feb 2005
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                #8
                I hate Ibill they fucking suk azz!!!!!!!!!!!! They owe me over $ 8k!


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                • whatif_3
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                  • Jul 2004
                  • 459

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ebus_dk
                  grest work.... really
                  But then again - why should they not get a second chance? thig might have learned something from going down
                  thanks, i had some help from this thread:
                  ibill is toccata.com

                  would you trust your mony to a company that is stupid enough to not hide their trail better than this? the names toccata and inteca were both on much communications from ibill

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                  • Machete_
                    WINNING!
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 14579

                    #10
                    Originally posted by whatif_3
                    thanks, i had some help from this thread:
                    ibill is toccata.com

                    would you trust your mony to a company that is stupid enough to not hide their trail better than this? the names toccata and inteca were both on much communications from ibill
                    I dont think they are trying to hide it - that is not possible, and they know it. and im pretty sure they have answers ready for all the Ibill relates questions they are getting now. Should they have put a article on the frontpage saying "hey - we are the old Ibill, butwe lost all the money"? no.. I dont think they could have done it any other way

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                    • pr0
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                      • May 2001
                      • 23088

                      #11
                      i lost some $ with them

                      but i made alot with them.....alot

                      so, whatever
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                      • willow
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                        • Dec 2001
                        • 131

                        #12
                        Hasn't this been dealt with already?

                        I'm fairly sure I remember in an older thread that Mr. Williams used to have office space at that location. I also believe he was responsible for a lot of the positive things iBill used to stand for. Somebody else can search the archives, I can't be bothered.

                        Inteca's reputation should stand on how many webmasters managed to get their money because of Inteca in spite of the iBill mistakes.

                        Somebody else look it up, I for one welcome as many players as possible in the financial space of adult. Heaven forbid it comes down to just one, you're even more fucked at that point.

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                        • Gottis
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                          • May 2004
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                          #13
                          Didn't Inteca end up paying everybody that was owed? (by iBill EU) If not, there should be more threads about it you'd think.
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                          • Adam-EB
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                            • Mar 2004
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                            #14
                            I got a spam mail today from Michael Sperber. Didn't he used to work for IBill?
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                            • aico
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 14748

                              #15
                              Fucking get over it already & move the fuck on.

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                              • fireorange
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                                • Jan 2005
                                • 1648

                                #16
                                iBill deserves to be in my sig with the rest of the scumbags.

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                                • tungsten
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                                  • Mar 2004
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by fireorange
                                  iBill deserves to be in my sig with the rest of the scumbags.
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                                  • DatingGold
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Gottis
                                    Didn't Inteca end up paying everybody that was owed? (by iBill EU) If not, there should be more threads about it you'd think.
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                                    • Shoplifter
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                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 5847

                                      #19
                                      What I don't get is why if Segpay really is Ibill EU did they force everone to move to Gkard?

                                      If you are an Ibill EU client and you haven't changed your join pages to Gkard all you can process at the moment is Discover Card.

                                      A little guidance guys....I don't think anyone wanted to be moved to Gkard, or understands what is going on.
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                                      • Hinc
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                                        • Oct 2004
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                                        #20
                                        Hmmm.

                                        If they want to escape their bad reputation by starting over, why aren´t they covering their tracks?

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                                        • tradermcduck
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                                          • Apr 2001
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                                          #21
                                          If this is true...
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                                          • chupacabra
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                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 3626

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Hinc
                                            Hmmm.

                                            If they want to escape their bad reputation by starting over, why aren´t they covering their tracks?

                                            Show us the money....
                                            because many in this industry seem to have disturbingly short memories, if the past is any indication... and all it takes is the promise of another weekly wire/check/whatever for some, no matter how dirty the hand may be.

                                            fuck TransCharge/Lacelot/WamiBill/Globill/iBill/inteca/Segpay..
                                            ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                            • nekrom
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 921

                                              #23
                                              Yup.

                                              Some asshat rep from that company contacted me when I was looking for porcessing. I ask them if they were linked to Ibill. I was told:

                                              "no, but I used to work for Ibill before they started ripping off webmasters"

                                              Conversation over, have a nice day.

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                                              • the real magoo
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Sep 2001
                                                • 1637

                                                #24
                                                "Seg" means "slow" in swedish. Segpay=slowpayments.
                                                Yepp, sound like iBill for sure

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                                                • whatif_3
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                  • 459

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by chupacabra
                                                  because many in this industry seem to have disturbingly short memories, if the past is any indication... and all it takes is the promise of another weekly wire/check/whatever for some, no matter how dirty the hand may be.

                                                  fuck TransCharge/Lacelot/WamiBill/Globill/iBill/inteca/Segpay..

                                                  yea, where do you think the owners/employees of these defunct companies go. all of the suddem a new processor pops up and knows how to process for adult, where do they come? not out of thin air

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                                                  • whatif_3
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                    • 459

                                                    #26
                                                    no comment?

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                                                    • MaDalton
                                                      I am Amazing Content!
                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                      • 39861

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Adam-EB
                                                      I got a spam mail today from Michael Sperber. Didn't he used to work for IBill?
                                                      no, for Duocash - Ibill was just about to add Duocash as a billing possibility when they exploded.

                                                      got that email too
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                                                      • 363R
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                                                        #28

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                                                        • keyboard warrior
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                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 1435

                                                          #29
                                                          now let's see if ibill pays on there promisary notes in 2 years.
                                                          - nothing here -

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                                                          • MsCheyenne
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                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                            • 412

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Gottis
                                                            Didn't Inteca end up paying everybody that was owed? (by iBill EU) If not, there should be more threads about it you'd think.
                                                            No, they didn't pay everyone...far from it. There are numerous lawsuits pending as well as a lot of folks who have just accepted that they aren't getting paid and moved on.


                                                            Cheyenne

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                                                            • Terry
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                                                              • Jan 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              I thought it would have been good news????
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                                                              • FilthyRob
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                                                                • Feb 2004
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                                                                #32
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                                                                • FreeOnes
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by xXxtreme2005
                                                                  I hate Ibill they fucking suk azz!!!!!!!!!!!! They owe me over $ 8k!

                                                                  maybe it makes you feel better if I tell you that they owe me the double (excl all my lost rebills)

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                                                                  • whatif_3
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                                                                    • Jul 2004
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Terry
                                                                    I thought it would have been good news????
                                                                    why do you say that?

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                                                                    • Webby
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 14956

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I ain't gotta say much but doubt there is much love lost between Inteca and iBill. It's a matter of working with the shit tools you have - and they are shit tools as far as iBill is concerned.

                                                                      It's a biz and ya gotta grab the good and bad and get a solution out of it, - but as far as iBill or Gkard is concerned - they are mud.
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                                                                      • willow
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                                                                        • Dec 2001
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Webby
                                                                        I ain't gotta say much but doubt there is much love lost between Inteca and iBill. It's a matter of working with the shit tools you have - and they are shit tools as far as iBill is concerned.

                                                                        It's a biz and ya gotta grab the good and bad and get a solution out of it, - but as far as iBill or Gkard is concerned - they are mud.
                                                                        Are you saying iBill is mud, or Inteca? It reads as the latter. You do gotta say much, this is a gossip board.

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                                                                        • NickPapageorgio
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                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                          • 8323

                                                                          #37
                                                                          From what I had heard, IBill's offices in Florida were up for lease like a month ago. Not saying that these people aren't IBill but from what I understood, they had moved out of that building or were in the process of it.

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                                                                          • mortgage19
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                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                            • 29

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by pr0
                                                                            i lost some $ with them

                                                                            but i made alot with them.....alot

                                                                            so, whatever
                                                                            lol its your money dumbass... they charged you for every penny they could.. 25% hight i might add..


                                                                            what you made you deserved... and you deserved even more..

                                                                            ibill sucks.com

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                                                                            • will76
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                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 18037

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by keyboard warrior
                                                                              now let's see if ibill pays on there promisary notes in 2 years.
                                                                              looks like that didn't happen....


                                                                              So anyone have any proof of who worked at ibill that now works at Segpay?
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                                                                              • AaronM
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                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                • 46923

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by will76
                                                                                looks like that didn't happen....


                                                                                So anyone have any proof of who worked at ibill that now works at Segpay?

                                                                                A bump for a thread that is almost 2.5 yeas old?

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                                                                                • brand0n
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                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 26983

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                  A bump for a thread that is almost 2.5 yeas old?
                                                                                  yes. (8chars)
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                                                                                  • AaronM
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                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                    • 46923

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by brand0n
                                                                                    yes. (8chars)

                                                                                    Yeah, I see why now.

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                                                                                    • tony299
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                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 57021

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      the guy who started this thread makes some interesting points.

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                                                                                      • Sosa
                                                                                        In Tushy Land
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 40149

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by FreeOnes
                                                                                        maybe it makes you feel better if I tell you that they owe me the double (excl all my lost rebills)
                                                                                        losing the rebills was terrible

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                                                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          i remembered this thread earlier today
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                                                                                          • nikki99
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Sosa
                                                                                            losing the rebills was terrible
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                                                                                            • will76
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                              A bump for a thread that is almost 2.5 yeas old?
                                                                                              im slow.


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                                                                                              • amateurcanada
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                tears lies.

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                                                                                                • DutchTeenCash
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                  • 21684

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  yeah was already obvious no way we will ever deal with seg after the whole ibill misery, everyone lost serious $ in that

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                                                                                                  • Yury
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                                                                                                    • Dec 2004
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    One of ibill's managers now works for segpay, he tried to contact us.
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