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SmokeyTheBear · 06-03-2005, 11:18 AM

dont let juicy steal your thunder woj you gotta nail 100

bwaha i nailed it by mistake whoops.

xxxice · 06-03-2005, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman

Think about it. If adult content was on it's own TLD, it's easy to block it for kids. No major isp is going to block it, because they'd lose 20% of their customers. And people that want porn will have the power to see it.

I'd rather have that than have the US gov't try to prosecute people.

And if ICANN enforces it, it would be worldwide. The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.

I think it is great idea but what if someone else gets adult.xxx ?

MetaMan · 06-03-2005, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dready

Dot Coms will have to get first pick or it will be a shit storm.

WHY SHOULD THEY GET FIRST PICK!?

i see tons of you saying this in this thread WHY THE HELL SHOULD THEY GET FIRST PICK!?

you dont own the trademark YOU DO NOT OWN THE .xxx domain!

dig420 · 06-03-2005, 11:20 AM

the only thing I'm worried about is that there's going to be some backroom deal to 'reserve' the best names for some organization that will use the revenue for the 'good of the industry' and I won't be part of it.

If that happens, I'm going to sue somebody dead.

NoCarrier · 06-03-2005, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

How would it cause a 40% decrease in sales?

So parents will now block all .xxx domains and schools will too. Thats less people who are not going to buy porn, meaning less bandwidth, but the same amount of sales.

Yes, but TGP's need that traffic. Less traffic for them = less gallery spot sales.

Connor · 06-03-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf

correct

Isn't it amazing how some people will actually SUPPORT efforts that will completely fuck with their business? Gee, can't WAIT for the industry to fucking VOLUNTARILY help bring about the one fucking tool censors have been missing for the past ten fucking years... a way to lump all of us together. Fucking brilliant.

I guess money CAN buy people all the support they need if WEBMASTERS are actually here on GFY arguing that a "dot xxx" extension is a good idea. Amazing. Congrats Jason, looks like your money was well spent!

dig420 · 06-03-2005, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

WHY SHOULD THEY GET FIRST PICK!?

i see tons of you saying this in this thread WHY THE HELL SHOULD THEY GET FIRST PICK!?

you dont own the trademark YOU DO NOT OWN THE .xxx domain!

Because if we don't get it we'll tie the .xxx owner of our main .com domains up in litigation for the next 30 years.

Kimmykim · 06-03-2005, 11:22 AM

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

MetaMan · 06-03-2005, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

Because if we don't get it we'll tie the .xxx owner of our main .com domains up in litigation for the next 30 years.

well guess what!? that is just to bad for you, you should have done something this has been in limbo for years and years, did you speak up?

how do you always "tie" it to the .com? you do not ALWAYS tie it to the .com, there is tons of sites out there that the other extensions are more well known that the .com counterparts.

you cant have your cake and eat it to.

dig420 · 06-03-2005, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

well guess what!? that is just to bad for you, you should have done something this has been in limbo for years and years, did you speak up?

how do you always "tie" it to the .com? you do not ALWAYS tie it to the .com, there is tons of sites out there that the other extensions are more well known that the .com counterparts.

you cant have your cake and eat it to.

I'm not telling you what's right or wrong, I'm telling you what's going to happen.

Aly · 06-03-2005, 11:25 AM

http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=229056

.xxx Raises More Eyebrows Than Excitement
By: MJ McMahon
Posted: 5:00 pm PDT 6-2-2005

TORONTO - Wednesday?s announcement that the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers has entered into commercial and technical negotiations with ICM Registry for the sponsored Top Level Domain (sTLD) .xxx raised more eyebrows than excitement. If all goes according to schedule, domains in the new sTLD will be available sometime between November 2005 and February 2006.

Although it is being marketed as a way to do away with child pornography and to keep minors away from adult entertainment, not everyone sees it that way. .....

It's LONG... click here for more.

SmokeyTheBear · 06-03-2005, 11:25 AM

I sale .net's cheap

MetaMan · 06-03-2005, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

I'm not telling you what's right or wrong, I'm telling you what IS.

no no im telling you what IS, this will not happen the .com'ers do not have any precidence over any other extension unless they own the trademark.

Connor · 06-03-2005, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

the only thing I'm worried about is that there's going to be some backroom deal to 'reserve' the best names for some organization that will use the revenue for the 'good of the industry' and I won't be part of it.

If that happens, I'm going to sue somebody dead.

That's the ONLY thing you're worried about? Amazing... there are issues much larger than who gets what fucking domain name. Every single one of you who is supporting this thing will have no ground to stand on and complain when efforts are made to make this mandatory. Those of us who are against this, however, will know who to thank when this bullshit starts fucking with our business.

tradermcduck · 06-03-2005, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

I sale .net's cheap

I guess short short .net's

Doctor Dre · 06-03-2005, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APN Philip

You might not have ISP's block it, but think about all the colleges, companies, parents, and a thousand other organizations that would block it on the client side. Traffic would be cut in half.

Good ... No more minors sufring tgps and wasting bandwith . I rather have 50 % of my traffic then corrupt the mind of a 14 years old .

How many % of tgp surfers are minor ? probably a lot ...

chadglni · 06-03-2005, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

Because if we don't get it we'll tie the .xxx owner of our main .com domains up in litigation for the next 30 years.

Dude, if you sued me over your damn non trademarked domain I'd give it to the first philipino guy that wanted it just to piss you off. What the FUCK makes you think because you have the .com of a domain that you own rights to all of them?

Do you have .co.uk?
Do you have .co.jp?
Do you have .jp?
Do you have .nu?
Do you have .cn?
Do you have .ca?
Do you have the xx other tld's registered?

What in Gods name makes you people think .xxx is limited to one country? It is WORLDWIDE and there is no way you can just assume ownership without a trademark. Even then you are dealing with foreign trademarks of the same. And if I happen to stumble onto one of your domains and register it, SUE ME.

FabianC · 06-03-2005, 11:32 AM

.xxx is being pushed by some of the top players so they can rake in on the money .. bottom line.

Peaches · 06-03-2005, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

How would it cause a 40% decrease in sales?

So parents will now block all .xxx domains and schools will too. Thats less people who are not going to buy porn, meaning less bandwidth, but the same amount of sales.

Follow the discussion - we were talking about COMPANIES blocking them. Adults working at companies have credit cards and contrary to some people assertions, they DO buy porn while they're at work.

Also colleges could block xxx - again, ADULTS using credit cards would be blocked.

Those are just two examples.

Will they find other ways to buy it? Probably. But porn is an impulse buy: if they can't buy from your site right then it's doubtful they'll write the URL down and try it again later from a different computer.

benc · 06-03-2005, 11:37 AM

This is really nothing new in adult online history. People will always screw people over for a quick buck.

Anyway you look at it, .xxx is stupid. Its just a select few looking to make a quick buck.

I think .com's should be grandfathered, for this simple reason. It is the most popular extension by far and it was intended for commercial purposes. .net and .org although they were opened up for everyone, that wasnt their intended purpose.

For someone to heavily develop a .net wouldnt make any sense, when someone else would own the more popular .com and benefit from the marketing they would do.

People should tell xxx to screw off and not buy any.

azguy · 06-03-2005, 11:37 AM

Even if US ISPs block access to .XXX domains, you will always be able to access your favorite porn site by its IP address.. unless they block that too, but I highly doubt it

chadglni · 06-03-2005, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

But porn is an impulse buy: if they can't buy from your site right then it's doubtful they'll write the URL down and try it again later from a different computer.

Ask your friendly paysite owners just how many people write down that site name to come back to later. They could pay 100% commission to affiliates on a brand new paysite and make a profit on the typins and people writing it down for later.

polish_aristocrat · 06-03-2005, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy

Even if US ISPs block access to .XXX domains, you will always be able to access your favorite porn site by its IP address.. unless they block that too, but I highly doubt it

lol and how should the surfer know it?

Connor · 06-03-2005, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Good ... No more minors sufring tgps and wasting bandwith . I rather have 50 % of my traffic then corrupt the mind of a 14 years old .

How many % of tgp surfers are minor ? probably a lot ...

Shit man.... if you're worried about kids, TRY VOLUNTARY FUCKING RATINGS!! There is NOTHING whatsoever... I repeat... NOTHING... that "dot xxx" can do for "protecting kids" that couldn't be done with VOLUNTARY FUCKING RATINGS that already exist!! Self-rate your site, and parents can turn it off in Internet Explorer. Easy! Why do we need to pay $75 per domain name to ICM to accomplish what we can already do?

azguy · 06-03-2005, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

lol and how should the surfer know it?

http://196.54.THE.HUN

Alex · 06-03-2005, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCarrier

Yes, but TGP's need that traffic. Less traffic for them = less gallery spot sales.

Same amount of gallery spot sales, less traffic, less bandwidth, same if not more sales.

Connor · 06-03-2005, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy

Even if US ISPs block access to .XXX domains, you will always be able to access your favorite porn site by its IP address.. unless they block that too, but I highly doubt it

Oh great... so we'd all have to start giving out IP addresses? That would go over great in our marketing and search engine efforts...

Alex · 06-03-2005, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

Follow the discussion - we were talking about COMPANIES blocking them. Adults working at companies have credit cards and contrary to some people assertions, they DO buy porn while they're at work.

Also colleges could block xxx - again, ADULTS using credit cards would be blocked.

Those are just two examples.

Will they find other ways to buy it? Probably. But porn is an impulse buy: if they can't buy from your site right then it's doubtful they'll write the URL down and try it again later from a different computer.

The percentage of memberships bought at offices or colleges is small. The majority of porn is bought from home.

I dont know about you, but i as a webmaster, would never dream accessing a porn site or even any of my sites or GFY from a library or cubicle, let alone whip out a CC and order something. If surfers are browsing for porn at work they are JUST BROWSING, wasting bandwidth, not going to pay for anything.

With that said, i dont support .xxx at all. As a new TLD, sure go for it, open as many as you want, but i dont want anyone pushing me off my .com's

bringer · 06-03-2005, 11:50 AM

i can assure you some isps will block .xxx
6 months after its released they'll release an update with an .xxx filter thats default ON that takes a 15 line bat file to disable. it makes sense too, parents are too preoccupied with survivor to turn on the parent filters now, the isp will be helping those parents out. thanks aol, we love you

vicki · 06-03-2005, 11:51 AM

read the bottom paragraph

Quote:

ICM plans to implement policies to protect brands that are already established in existing online realms, though what those policies might be is not clear yet.

?With respect to generic words, there is no party which has a proprietary claim,? Hendeles said. ?However, we will be implementing policies that preserve consumer expectations relative to established brands and to protect against abuse of trade[mark] or service mark rights in them.?

Aly · 06-03-2005, 11:52 AM

FRC Voices Opposition to '.xxx' Domain Name

WASHINGTON, June 3 /PRNewswire/ -- The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) recently announced a plan to create a ".xxx" domain address to house pornographic websites. Patrick Trueman, FRC's senior legal counsel and former chief of the U.S. Department of Justice's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section, released the following statement expressing strong opposition to ICANN's plan:

"The new domain would do more harm than good. The '.com' domain has been a cash cow for the porn industry and pornographers will not give it up and remove themselves to the '.xxx' domain. Instead, they will populate the '.xxx' domain and perhaps double the number of porn sites available on the Web.

"The '.xxx' domain also cloaks the porn industry with legitimacy. The industry will have a place at the table in developing and maintaining their new property.

"Creating a virtual red light district may also discourage law enforcement from bringing obscenity cases on the notion that the problem is solved."

Patrick Trueman is the author of a newly released FRC pamphlet -- "Dealing with Pornography: A Practical Guide For Protecting Your Family and Your Community." The pamphlet explains actions that the average citizen can take to fight porn in stores, on the internet, and on television. A download of the pamphlet can be found at http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=BC05C01

SOURCE Family Research Council

06/03/2005 11:58 ET

NoCarrier · 06-03-2005, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Same amount of gallery spot sales, less traffic, less bandwidth, same if not more sales.

Yes, for the affiliates, not the TGP owners. They are going to lose the *traffic we don't want to talk about*.

TGP owners don't want the .xxx because they know that their traffic is going to decrease.

P.S. "The traffic we don't want to talk about" = teenagers under 18 without credit cards.

Connor · 06-03-2005, 11:57 AM

Trueman is right, amazingly enough, when he says that it wouldn't do anything to protect children. And if left voluntary, he's right that porn sites would populate BOTH the .com and .xxx domain names... I don't think anyone disagrees about that. This move does nothing but line the pockets of certain individuals and companies.

Xplicit · 06-03-2005, 11:57 AM

Shocking this is comming from the owner of 'adult.com', a domain that will potentially be worthless in a couple years.

While I agree, it would make filtering sites VERY easy. I'll bet money that someday the government will pass a law REQUIRING all adult content on .xxx domains.

This is just the first step of sucking us in.

Connor · 06-03-2005, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit

Shocking this is comming from the owner of 'adult.com', a domain that will potentially be worthless in a couple years.

Not if he has a deal for adult.xxx in place. ;)

DVTimes · 06-03-2005, 12:03 PM

Why .xxx is not going to work.

OK, the augment is that all porn sites can go onto .xxx.

This would be fine if all porn sites were .com's, but many are on regional domains, such as .co.uk and so on.

So imagine say a Japan domain (or any other country) that owns the adult.dk (or whatever the Japan domain is). Now the Japan owner will have as much right to the adult.xxx as much as the .com owner (adult.com). Now think of the court cases.

Also will all .xxx sites sell for the same price. If I asked for xxx.xxx will the firm charge me the same as if I asked for doobydoobydoo.xxx?

Also on day 1 of the launch of these sites, there will be several thousand requests for sites such as sex.xxx porn.xxx, so how will they decide who gets them?

bringer · 06-03-2005, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanuk

Also on day 1 of the launch of these sites, there will be several thousand requests for sites such as sex.xxx porn.xxx, so how will they decide who gets them?

those names will be held and put up for auction, not by the compnay of course. this whole .xxx is about money, you thing they'd sell the prime real estate for the same price as dfadsfdsfadfadfasdfaporn.xxx
first come first serve my ass

karup · 06-03-2005, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APN Philip

You might not have ISP's block it, but think about all the colleges, companies, parents, and a thousand other organizations that would block it on the client side. Traffic would be cut in half.

Agreed. This is my biggest concern.

polish_aristocrat · 06-03-2005, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly_AVN

FRC Voices Opposition to '.xxx' Domain Name

WASHINGTON, June 3 /PRNewswire/ -- The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) recently announced a plan to create a ".xxx" domain address to house pornographic websites. Patrick Trueman, FRC's senior legal counsel and former chief of the U.S. Department of Justice's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section, released the following statement expressing strong opposition to ICANN's plan:

"The new domain would do more harm than good. The '.com' domain has been a cash cow for the porn industry and pornographers will not give it up and remove themselves to the '.xxx' domain. Instead, they will populate the '.xxx' domain and perhaps double the number of porn sites available on the Web.

"The '.xxx' domain also cloaks the porn industry with legitimacy. The industry will have a place at the table in developing and maintaining their new property.

"Creating a virtual red light district may also discourage law enforcement from bringing obscenity cases on the notion that the problem is solved."

Patrick Trueman is the author of a newly released FRC pamphlet -- "Dealing with Pornography: A Practical Guide For Protecting Your Family and Your Community." The pamphlet explains actions that the average citizen can take to fight porn in stores, on the internet, and on television. A download of the pamphlet can be found at http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=BC05C01

SOURCE Family Research Council

06/03/2005 11:58 ET

although he represents a completely different front, I am happy that he said it

kernelpanic · 06-03-2005, 12:19 PM

If anything, the creation of the .xxx TLD makes it easier to censor in the future, since it will be all grouped together.

Martin · 06-03-2005, 12:21 PM

It's no good.

Major (Tom) · 06-03-2005, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman

Think about it. If adult content was on it's own TLD, it's easy to block it for kids. No major isp is going to block it, because they'd lose 20% of their customers. And people that want porn will have the power to see it.

I'd rather have that than have the US gov't try to prosecute people.

And if ICANN enforces it, it would be worldwide. The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx, without the regisgtered tm bs. If you own a .net, you are second in line. If they don't, I can see lots of lawsuits.

Lens, how will xxx stop censorship when helmy is all about it?

pls explain
Duke

3piece chicken Dinner · 06-03-2005, 01:14 PM

Wake up people!! don't you see the grave error in this. Forget it being mandatory, that will happen and we can I deny it if we want, but it will happen.

Traffic- who cares.

Blocked at the ISP- will probably happen somewhere sometime sooner than you expect............ Oh and Lensman, I think you might forget that there is a large portion of this great country that does not have a wide variety of service providers. IE central Florida. It's Brighthouse or the outhouse. And they are not going to loose 20% of their consumers because they block .xxx . Not going to happen bro.

But the biggest thing I think a bunch of us are over looking is the label and what it can REALLY do.

Anyone play poker online??? anyone try to use your bank credit card to put money in your account?? A VERY large portion of banking institutions do not allow you to do this, it's their company policy. Bank of America, Bank One, ect....ect.... Whats to stop these individual institutions from deciding they feel the same way about .xxx as they feel about PartyPoker or PokerStars????? in short NOTHING.

While I will agree this will not Kill the industry, It's sure gonna hurt those who are not going to benefit from .xxx purchases.

Look at the big picture, and on how many levels you will be filtered on and by who....

Hymes · 06-03-2005, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly_AVN

FRC Voices Opposition to '.xxx' Domain Name

WASHINGTON, June 3 /PRNewswire/ -- The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) recently announced a plan to create a ".xxx" domain address to house pornographic websites. Patrick Trueman, FRC's senior legal counsel and former chief of the U.S. Department of Justice's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section, released the following statement expressing strong opposition to ICANN's plan:

"The new domain would do more harm than good. The '.com' domain has been a cash cow for the porn industry and pornographers will not give it up and remove themselves to the '.xxx' domain. Instead, they will populate the '.xxx' domain and perhaps double the number of porn sites available on the Web.

"The '.xxx' domain also cloaks the porn industry with legitimacy. The industry will have a place at the table in developing and maintaining their new property.

"Creating a virtual red light district may also discourage law enforcement from bringing obscenity cases on the notion that the problem is solved."

Patrick Trueman is the author of a newly released FRC pamphlet -- "Dealing with Pornography: A Practical Guide For Protecting Your Family and Your Community." The pamphlet explains actions that the average citizen can take to fight porn in stores, on the internet, and on television. A download of the pamphlet can be found at http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=BC05C01

SOURCE Family Research Council

06/03/2005 11:58 ET

Great find, Aly. I would have to say that the Family Research Council's opposition to .xxx would make them the perfect candidate to sit on the Board of IFFOR that will create the policies that all .xxx domains will have to comply with when this goes through. That's going to be a lot of fun. Yes, there will also be a few representatives from the adult industry on the Board too, but who will they be, and what percentage of the whole will they make up, and who will be the other Board members. Stay tuned!

xxxjay · 06-03-2005, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

"The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx"

Correct or else it would all hell breaking loose

I was actually thinking of posting the same thing today. I don't think .xxx is so bad if it keeps the goverment off our back.

If you have a super important .com or brand -- now is a good time to trademark.

I would also like to add that this would be fine if dot xxx would the cool goverment's jets on the 2257 issue. .xxx is something I can live with. Federal agents knocking on my door every month isn't.

I really think it is going to come down to us living with one or the other. I'll take dot xxx.

$5 submissions · 06-03-2005, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APN Philip

Traffic would be cut in half.

Temporarily at least. It would change current traffic levels and how people deal with porn. The upside is that it may go a long way in changing the mainstream view that "porn has gotten out of hand." From a business perspective, it would require new creativity and efficiency to make more with less traffic UNTIL traffic surges again (as people get acclimated to .xxx and move to ISPs that would allow it).

$5 submissions · 06-03-2005, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

although he represents a completely different front, I am happy that he said it

I read between the lines... this may be an opening segue into pushing for MANDATORY move from non-.xxx domains to .xxx Only time will tell.

TheDoc · 06-03-2005, 02:44 PM

Sure, makes since. Hell parents don?t do their jobs so we must do it for them.. BS.. If kids can beat software now they can beat .xxx software blockers.. It changes nothing and creates more issues.

DVTimes · 06-03-2005, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

"The KEY is that the registry MUST allow the current .com owners to get the same domains as .xxx"

Correct or else it would all hell breaking loose

Why should .com owners have priority. What if you have a .net or .co.uk or a domain name from another country. Do these people have no rights?

DWB · 06-03-2005, 02:50 PM

I'm against it. I think it's a greedy scam and it's not going to stop a single kid from looking at porn.

All of you who think it's going to help are living in a dream world. Think about when you were a kid and you wanted to look a nudie mags. There was nothing going to stop you. We would sneak into our parents room to get peek at them, steal them from corner stores and even trade toys and money for them with other kids. Why? BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SEE IT. Simple answer. And when kids want to see it, they are going to find it no matter what.

Everyone has seemed to forget that we were all kids once, and by doing that you forget who kids think. You can't stop a child from doing what he really wants to do. Could they stop you? Once the kid is smart enough to un-filter the computer mommy and daddy set up to filter out porn, it's on.

Even if everyone did get .XXX (which you all probably will), unless we are forced from our .com domains, it will do absolutely nothing but create sales for the new domain. If all the .com's are still there, what's the point?

.XXX will solve nothing.

06-03-2005, 11:18 AM	#101
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06-03-2005, 11:25 AM	#111
Aly President, ePufferProfits Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,881	Update .xxx story from AVN http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=229056 .xxx Raises More Eyebrows Than Excitement By: MJ McMahon Posted: 5:00 pm PDT 6-2-2005 TORONTO - Wednesday?s announcement that the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers has entered into commercial and technical negotiations with ICM Registry for the sponsored Top Level Domain (sTLD) .xxx raised more eyebrows than excitement. If all goes according to schedule, domains in the new sTLD will be available sometime between November 2005 and February 2006. Although it is being marketed as a way to do away with child pornography and to keep minors away from adult entertainment, not everyone sees it that way. ..... It's LONG... click here for more. __________________ . . Aly's ICQ: 51504163 . Aly's Email: [email protected]

06-03-2005, 11:25 AM	#112
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06-03-2005, 11:37 AM	#120
benc Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 788	This is really nothing new in adult online history. People will always screw people over for a quick buck. Anyway you look at it, .xxx is stupid. Its just a select few looking to make a quick buck. I think .com's should be grandfathered, for this simple reason. It is the most popular extension by far and it was intended for commercial purposes. .net and .org although they were opened up for everyone, that wasnt their intended purpose. For someone to heavily develop a .net wouldnt make any sense, when someone else would own the more popular .com and benefit from the marketing they would do. People should tell xxx to screw off and not buy any. __________________ Numerous Adult and Non Adult Domains For Sale Such as SlutVideos.com, FitWomen.com Listed on Sedo or can do direct sale

06-03-2005, 11:50 AM	#129
bringer i have man boobies Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: van down by the river Posts: 13,082	i can assure you some isps will block .xxx 6 months after its released they'll release an update with an .xxx filter thats default ON that takes a 15 line bat file to disable. it makes sense too, parents are too preoccupied with survivor to turn on the parent filters now, the isp will be helping those parents out. thanks aol, we love you __________________ 333-765-551 Last edited by bringer; 06-03-2005 at 11:51 AM..

06-03-2005, 11:20 AM	#104
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	the only thing I'm worried about is that there's going to be some backroom deal to 'reserve' the best names for some organization that will use the revenue for the 'good of the industry' and I won't be part of it. If that happens, I'm going to sue somebody dead.

06-03-2005, 11:22 AM	#108
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

06-03-2005, 11:32 AM	#118
FabianC Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,615	.xxx is being pushed by some of the top players so they can rake in on the money .. bottom line.

06-03-2005, 11:37 AM	#121
azguy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 5,167	Even if US ISPs block access to .XXX domains, you will always be able to access your favorite porn site by its IP address.. unless they block that too, but I highly doubt it

06-03-2005, 11:52 AM	#131
Aly President, ePufferProfits Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,881	A Different Perspective... FRC Voices Opposition to '.xxx' Domain Name WASHINGTON, June 3 /PRNewswire/ -- The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) recently announced a plan to create a ".xxx" domain address to house pornographic websites. Patrick Trueman, FRC's senior legal counsel and former chief of the U.S. Department of Justice's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section, released the following statement expressing strong opposition to ICANN's plan: "The new domain would do more harm than good. The '.com' domain has been a cash cow for the porn industry and pornographers will not give it up and remove themselves to the '.xxx' domain. Instead, they will populate the '.xxx' domain and perhaps double the number of porn sites available on the Web. "The '.xxx' domain also cloaks the porn industry with legitimacy. The industry will have a place at the table in developing and maintaining their new property. "Creating a virtual red light district may also discourage law enforcement from bringing obscenity cases on the notion that the problem is solved." Patrick Trueman is the author of a newly released FRC pamphlet -- "Dealing with Pornography: A Practical Guide For Protecting Your Family and Your Community." The pamphlet explains actions that the average citizen can take to fight porn in stores, on the internet, and on television. A download of the pamphlet can be found at http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=BC05C01 SOURCE Family Research Council 06/03/2005 11:58 ET __________________ . . Aly's ICQ: 51504163 . Aly's Email: [email protected]

06-03-2005, 11:57 AM	#133
Connor Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,294	Trueman is right, amazingly enough, when he says that it wouldn't do anything to protect children. And if left voluntary, he's right that porn sites would populate BOTH the .com and .xxx domain names... I don't think anyone disagrees about that. This move does nothing but line the pockets of certain individuals and companies. __________________ YNOT v5 IS NOW LIVE! \| SEEN YNOT MAIL YET? Last edited by Connor; 06-03-2005 at 11:58 AM..

06-03-2005, 11:57 AM	#134
Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	Shocking this is comming from the owner of 'adult.com', a domain that will potentially be worthless in a couple years. While I agree, it would make filtering sites VERY easy. I'll bet money that someday the government will pass a law REQUIRING all adult content on .xxx domains. This is just the first step of sucking us in. Last edited by Xplicit; 06-03-2005 at 11:59 AM..

06-03-2005, 12:03 PM	#136
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	Why .xxx is not going to work. OK, the augment is that all porn sites can go onto .xxx. This would be fine if all porn sites were .com's, but many are on regional domains, such as .co.uk and so on. So imagine say a Japan domain (or any other country) that owns the adult.dk (or whatever the Japan domain is). Now the Japan owner will have as much right to the adult.xxx as much as the .com owner (adult.com). Now think of the court cases. Also will all .xxx sites sell for the same price. If I asked for xxx.xxx will the firm charge me the same as if I asked for doobydoobydoo.xxx? Also on day 1 of the launch of these sites, there will be several thousand requests for sites such as sex.xxx porn.xxx, so how will they decide who gets them? __________________ The Affiliate Program

06-03-2005, 12:19 PM	#140
kernelpanic Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,961	If anything, the creation of the .xxx TLD makes it easier to censor in the future, since it will be all grouped together. __________________ ZangoCash - Turn Your Traffic Into Ca$h. $.40 Per Install - No Tier

06-03-2005, 12:21 PM	#141
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	It's no good.

06-03-2005, 01:14 PM	#143
3piece chicken Dinner Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On your plate Posts: 1,065	Wake up people!! don't you see the grave error in this. Forget it being mandatory, that will happen and we can I deny it if we want, but it will happen. Traffic- who cares. Blocked at the ISP- will probably happen somewhere sometime sooner than you expect............ Oh and Lensman, I think you might forget that there is a large portion of this great country that does not have a wide variety of service providers. IE central Florida. It's Brighthouse or the outhouse. And they are not going to loose 20% of their consumers because they block .xxx . Not going to happen bro. But the biggest thing I think a bunch of us are over looking is the label and what it can REALLY do. Anyone play poker online??? anyone try to use your bank credit card to put money in your account?? A VERY large portion of banking institutions do not allow you to do this, it's their company policy. Bank of America, Bank One, ect....ect.... Whats to stop these individual institutions from deciding they feel the same way about .xxx as they feel about PartyPoker or PokerStars????? in short NOTHING. While I will agree this will not Kill the industry, It's sure gonna hurt those who are not going to benefit from .xxx purchases. Look at the big picture, and on how many levels you will be filtered on and by who....

06-03-2005, 02:44 PM	#148
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Sure, makes since. Hell parents don?t do their jobs so we must do it for them.. BS.. If kids can beat software now they can beat .xxx software blockers.. It changes nothing and creates more issues. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

06-03-2005, 02:50 PM	#150
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I'm against it. I think it's a greedy scam and it's not going to stop a single kid from looking at porn. All of you who think it's going to help are living in a dream world. Think about when you were a kid and you wanted to look a nudie mags. There was nothing going to stop you. We would sneak into our parents room to get peek at them, steal them from corner stores and even trade toys and money for them with other kids. Why? BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SEE IT. Simple answer. And when kids want to see it, they are going to find it no matter what. Everyone has seemed to forget that we were all kids once, and by doing that you forget who kids think. You can't stop a child from doing what he really wants to do. Could they stop you? Once the kid is smart enough to un-filter the computer mommy and daddy set up to filter out porn, it's on. Even if everyone did get .XXX (which you all probably will), unless we are forced from our .com domains, it will do absolutely nothing but create sales for the new domain. If all the .com's are still there, what's the point? .XXX will solve nothing.