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baddog · 06-03-2005, 01:36 AM

Yeah, I use b0ardtrack0r, so I can monitor what is happening elsewhere . . . just in case something is being discussed that I have a vested interest in.

Lately I have been seeing threads pop up with people expressing surprise that some sponsors are pulling their free content and/or free hosting.

I have to ask, why does this surprise anyone? Shouldn't it have been expected? At least as a temporary fix until they can get things together to comply with the new 2257 regs.

Is anyone here surprised that sponsors might be reluctant to just throw content out there so affiliates can make their own galleries?

Discuss.

tradermcduck · 06-03-2005, 01:41 AM

If the affiliate is a non U.S. citizen there should not be a big problem ... a 2257 page listing all the content providers is all they need.

baddog · 06-03-2005, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tradermcduck

If the affiliate is a non U.S. citizen there should not be a big problem ... for them a page listing all the content providers is o.k.

So you think sponsors are going to use GEO-IP to decide if the affiliate can download content or something?

tradermcduck · 06-03-2005, 01:53 AM

Nope, download area with user/pass only for approved non U.S. webmasters...

baddog · 06-03-2005, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tradermcduck

Nope, download area with user/pass only for approved non U.S. webmasters...

How would they keep you from giving it to me?

pr0 · 06-03-2005, 01:58 AM

i'll be selling geocities, terra & tripod accounts in bulk

contact me

Rui · 06-03-2005, 02:46 AM

I really hope all the FreeHosts die :D

polish_aristocrat · 06-03-2005, 02:48 AM

I'd say that most webmasters arent aware of the changs at all, they dont read boards.

ffmihai · 06-03-2005, 02:59 AM

so if im a non us webmaster, what do i have to do regarding the new 2257 regulations?

Dirty Dane · 06-03-2005, 03:23 AM

Not surprised and I think the last week up to 23rd will put many people on work.

StuartD · 06-03-2005, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I'd say that most webmasters arent aware of the changs at all, they dont read boards.

Indeed, I've found that a large portion of people on all these message boards are entirely clueless about even the most basic aspects of the new regulations.... all they know is that they can't survive without getting everything they need, for free.
And so they don't understand why they're being punished.... why they're the ones that will not have a tougher time doing all of the things the way they're used to.... as if this is all personally about them or something.

baddog · 06-03-2005, 09:29 PM

I guess 2257 could eliminate a huge portion of the webmasters that are here for the free ride

seeric · 06-03-2005, 09:32 PM

yeah funny huh. survival of the fittest after this. gonna be a much more intelligent environment soon.

Walrus · 06-03-2005, 09:34 PM

It will be interesting to see what happens, but hasn't there been many scares like this in the past? Or this the biggeset scare of them all?

cool1 · 06-03-2005, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I guess 2257 could eliminate a huge portion of the webmasters that are here for the free ride

I think it could happen, could be no more free rides.
Having to buy your own content and provide your own hosting will be too much for some to handle and they will quit.

Spunky · 06-03-2005, 09:42 PM

I'm sure Canadians with off shore hosting is on their priority list

GatorB · 06-03-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tradermcduck

Nope, download area with user/pass only for approved non U.S. webmasters...

Sorry ANY sponsor giving preferential treatment to non-US webmasters will NOT get my business. What if a sponsor didn't let Euro have content because the smell because they don't bathe but once a week?

GiantGnome · 06-03-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

yeah funny huh. survival of the fittest after this. gonna be a much more intelligent environment soon.

GatorB · 06-03-2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ffmihai

so if im a non us webmaster, what do i have to do regarding the new 2257 regulations?

...sigh....Your asking NOW 20 days before the rule goes into effect and the new rules have been publishled for 9 days already.

TheJimmy · 06-03-2005, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I guess 2257 could eliminate a huge portion of the webmasters that are here for the free ride

amen to that...

jayeff · 06-03-2005, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

...webmasters that are here for the free ride

This is a tired, tired old chestnut. There is no "free ride". The provision of content and hosting has benefits and drawbacks for everyone who is involved. Anyway, by implying otherwise, you are surely raising more questions about the business acumen of the sponsors who provide content and hosting, than you are about the affiliates who take up their offers.

thewebgarage · 06-03-2005, 11:11 PM

its a lot easier for a sponsor to supply id's especially if its exclusive than it is for an affiliate todo the book keeping on each image and related id.

3piece chicken Dinner · 06-03-2005, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by thewebgarage

its a lot easier for a sponsor to supply id's especially if its exclusive than it is for an affiliate todo the book keeping on each image and related id.

Are you under the impression that the sponsor doesn't have book keeping to do on each image and url with related id's????

There are programs with anywhere from 200,000 to 2 million photos. I hardly think the affiliate has it harder.

People better get used to the idea that there will be alot of sponsors that are not going to provide free downloadable "explicit" content and Id's for webmasters. US based non US Based doesn't matter, it's not going to happen. Sure there will be some that do, and we'll all see how long that lasts.

The Adult landscape has changed. And truthfully it's our job as webmasters to get our traffic to the sponsor's tour. Not provide free daily jack off material. We are the commercial they are the SHOW. That is how we get paid. And if you don't think you can get traffic to a sponsor with out explicit content. Perhaps as affiliates the industry is better off without you.

Great post Baddog.

I can see this changing the face of the single girl market. We have some girls that frequent here. Just Curiouis is Arika, Sunny, Vanilla, Alley, Aimee Sweet, Elli, and the like all going to be giving us their personal information?
I for one hope not.

baddog · 06-04-2005, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by thewebgarage

its a lot easier for a sponsor to supply id's especially if its exclusive than it is for an affiliate todo the book keeping on each image and related id.

Wouldn't they also have to keep track of every TGP their affiliate submitted it to?

polish_aristocrat · 06-04-2005, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Sorry ANY sponsor giving preferential treatment to non-US webmasters will NOT get my business. What if a sponsor didn't let Euro have content because the smell because they don't bathe but once a week?

06-03-2005, 01:36 AM	#1
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Some adult webmasters blow my mind. Yeah, I use b0ardtrack0r, so I can monitor what is happening elsewhere . . . just in case something is being discussed that I have a vested interest in. Lately I have been seeing threads pop up with people expressing surprise that some sponsors are pulling their free content and/or free hosting. I have to ask, why does this surprise anyone? Shouldn't it have been expected? At least as a temporary fix until they can get things together to comply with the new 2257 regs. Is anyone here surprised that sponsors might be reluctant to just throw content out there so affiliates can make their own galleries? Discuss.

06-03-2005, 01:41 AM	#2
tradermcduck Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Europe - By the way I know my nickname sucks ;-) Posts: 2,362	If the affiliate is a non U.S. citizen there should not be a big problem ... a 2257 page listing all the content providers is all they need. __________________ MarkB Last edited by tradermcduck; 06-03-2005 at 01:43 AM..

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tradermcduck Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Europe - By the way I know my nickname sucks ;-) Posts: 2,362	Nope, download area with user/pass only for approved non U.S. webmasters... __________________ MarkB

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Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	Not surprised and I think the last week up to 23rd will put many people on work.

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	I guess 2257 could eliminate a huge portion of the webmasters that are here for the free ride

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Walrus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,150	It will be interesting to see what happens, but hasn't there been many scares like this in the past? Or this the biggeset scare of them all?

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