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eroswebmaster · 06-01-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

I thought you weren't available for freelance design anyways?

And you know I always pay promptly once my project has been delivered

LOL man it was just a joke.
Yeah you and I never had issues you always paid promptly and were good for return biz

Snake Doctor · 06-01-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

LOL man it was just a joke.
Yeah you and I never had issues you always paid promptly and were good for return biz

I know, I just didn't have a snappy comeback right then.

So if you charge me 150% upfront do I get a little extra on the "back end"?

machinegunkelly · 06-01-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

Just curious what your policy is on clients that aren't happy with the results? Do you just base things on time you've spent on things?

Matt

If a client isn't happy I will do my best to make them happy .
I offer changes free of charge but I can only do so much .

There are times where some people just arent happy .

Lets take a recent example :
Guy emails for a toon character of himself ,
I quote $259 for the toon and header etc .

I get details after this payment and there is another character in the description , but I'm a nice guy so I figuire fuck it I'll do it for him anyway .

Show client and he doesnt like it totally , does but sorta needs some changes , So I change it a few times and the client still doesnt like it ,
At this point I turn around and pay my guest toonist Scott to do the toon ,
I pay him $180 and he does Not one , but two versions of the toon and the client still wasnt happy and wants a refund

Now this is where I have done my own 5-6 hours work originally , plus revisions THEN I paid $180 to get a toon done by Scott and the guy isnt happy .

So I've clearly earned my money . Even lost some in that case all in an attempt to please the unpleasable.

eroswebmaster · 06-01-2005, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

I know, I just didn't have a snappy comeback right then.

So if you charge me 150% upfront do I get a little extra on the "back end"?

Always a happy ending guaranteed.

but not necessarily by me...I'm gonna hire a tranny gallery maker out of the Philippines.

Jimmie · 06-01-2005, 06:19 PM

good policy, but like someone else pointed out. There have been a few occasions where Ive paid and never heard from the designer after that....

its a 2 way street, youve got a great reputation in the biz, I wouldnt mind 1 bit paying upfront, Ive always offered to do so.

hova · 06-01-2005, 06:20 PM

smart move

ModelPerfect · 06-01-2005, 07:01 PM

totally agree...

iwantchixx · 06-01-2005, 08:03 PM

I ausually have a pay now, then I work policy. I don;t care who it is. however, I have seen myself do some work for people and get paid once finished. The only people I let that happen with are people that I know would be easy to ruin their biz overnight. Of course, if it's just some joe blow newbie, ruining him is easy, but would he care? He can start over with a new name easily enough. He would be made ot pay in full upront.

Spunky · 06-01-2005, 08:10 PM

I can understand your frustration..fucking lamers

BlueWire · 06-01-2005, 08:11 PM

Does this have anything to do with not being able to get a hold of Lens being the straw that broke the camel's back?

geeksta · 06-01-2005, 08:11 PM

I do programming on a contract basis, and let me tell you, the mainstream customers are slow pay too. I have a few good ones that understand I'm no big corporation who can float them for 90 days.

Otherwise, if I'm not paid, I'll have my wife call as my "office manager" and "encourage" them to pay when she's got her PMS.

Works every fuckin' time like a dream. Never lost a customer either, 'cause I do good work and it's not me calling them up like Tony Soprano the way the wife on PMS does. Good cop - Bad cop. My customers love me.

sniperwolf · 06-01-2005, 08:13 PM

nice.. hope everything goes well for you

machinegunkelly · 06-01-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

Does this have anything to do with not being able to get a hold of Lens being the straw that broke the camel's back?

No ,
Thats unrelated but is sorta bugging me too
Guess lensman doesn't wanna chat

Snake Doctor · 06-01-2005, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Always a happy ending guaranteed.

but not necessarily by me...I'm gonna hire a tranny gallery maker out of the Philippines.

Well shit if I have to choose between your grungy ass and a passable tranny I'll take the tranny

BlueWire · 06-01-2005, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machinegunkelly

No ,
Thats unrelated but is sorta bugging me too
Guess lensman doesn't wanna chat

Hard man to get a hold of...I'm sure he'll get it taken care of eventually

Arousal Design · 06-01-2005, 08:32 PM

Hey man, you're on point with this. I've done work with MachineGunKelly, he's professional, does great work.

All the best to you...

wimpy · 06-01-2005, 08:33 PM

I would NEVER do any work for an adult webmaster without payment up front. That's just the way it is in this industry.

Screaming · 06-01-2005, 08:33 PM

sounds like a plan, good luck

candyflip · 06-01-2005, 08:37 PM

The client I am referring to is mainstream, small privately owned local manufacturing company.

They make a great product and stand to make a lot once online, but they can't seem to get their shit together...so the site sits on my dev server.

machinegunkelly · 06-01-2005, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWire

Hard man to get a hold of...I'm sure he'll get it taken care of eventually

For some reason , I'm not counting on it

Wiggles · 06-01-2005, 09:06 PM

smart move man, fucking deadbeats everywhere.

DWB · 06-01-2005, 10:44 PM

Do what you gotta do man. It's a shame that so many of these so called "ballers" skip out on payments.

Paraskass · 06-01-2005, 10:48 PM

i need a design done.

start working on it now and I will mail you a check some time this week.

thanks!

Shoehorn! · 06-01-2005, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

the same thing has happened with me in my dj career. the closer people get to you, the longer it takes to get money from them. i now require 1/2 upfront and the other 1/2 before i get on the turntables.

my advice is keep friends friends and biz biz.

good luck man, the pros will keep coming back to you and the ones who have to scrounge for loot will go fuck other people.

my 2 cents.

This is great advice.

James White · 06-02-2005, 12:01 AM

As a previous designer years ago, I fully support you. I did this my 2nd year into design, continued for 4 years after. If you have the portfolio to back it up, people don't mind. Escrow is also the best way to do that, usually.

06-01-2005, 06:19 PM	#55
Jimmie Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft Worth TX! Posts: 872	good policy, but like someone else pointed out. There have been a few occasions where Ive paid and never heard from the designer after that.... its a 2 way street, youve got a great reputation in the biz, I wouldnt mind 1 bit paying upfront, Ive always offered to do so. __________________ Livin' Fat Cause I Aint On Speed....

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iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	I ausually have a pay now, then I work policy. I don;t care who it is. however, I have seen myself do some work for people and get paid once finished. The only people I let that happen with are people that I know would be easy to ruin their biz overnight. Of course, if it's just some joe blow newbie, ruining him is easy, but would he care? He can start over with a new name easily enough. He would be made ot pay in full upront.

06-01-2005, 08:11 PM	#60
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	Does this have anything to do with not being able to get a hold of Lens being the straw that broke the camel's back?

06-01-2005, 08:11 PM	#61
geeksta Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 157	I do programming on a contract basis, and let me tell you, the mainstream customers are slow pay too. I have a few good ones that understand I'm no big corporation who can float them for 90 days. Otherwise, if I'm not paid, I'll have my wife call as my "office manager" and "encourage" them to pay when she's got her PMS. Works every fuckin' time like a dream. Never lost a customer either, 'cause I do good work and it's not me calling them up like Tony Soprano the way the wife on PMS does. Good cop - Bad cop. My customers love me.

06-01-2005, 08:32 PM	#66
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06-01-2005, 08:33 PM	#67
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Screaming I can change this!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18,972	sounds like a plan, good luck __________________

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candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	The client I am referring to is mainstream, small privately owned local manufacturing company. They make a great product and stand to make a lot once online, but they can't seem to get their shit together...so the site sits on my dev server. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

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