Thank you French people

[justsexxx]

You voted NO, we will do the same on 1 june

if that is true Andre, yes we will !

[Terry]

The french voted no .. for what?

[Mako]

Stupid. Keep resisting things that allow Europe to unify its economic policies (resisting the Euro, voting down the EU constitution, etc) out of some misplaced cultural pride, and you'll wind up further and further behind in the trade gap.

Once China ramps up, and becomes everyone's trade master within the next 20 years (including the United States') we'll all wish we could go back in time and vote YES on things like the EU Const.

Pride is a bitch.

[cambaby]

EU wars?

[SHGB]

Originally Posted by Mako

Once China ramps up, and becomes everyone's trade master within the next 20 years (including the United States') we'll all wish we could go back in time and vote YES on things like the EU Const.

Pride is a bitch.

Fact: Anyone know that China is producing 400,000 engineers EVERY YEAR?

The count down has started until the China takes over!

[Terry]

Oh man, is that what they voted no for... damn!

[BradM]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe....eu/index.html
Faggots.

I hate the English for not taking them out when they had a chance.

this is great, an historic day !
now with the new 2257 regulations ............ all is well ( again )

[pradaboy]

excellent!

[justsexxx]

Originally Posted by Mako

Stupid. Keep resisting things that allow Europe to unify its economic policies (resisting the Euro, voting down the EU constitution, etc) out of some misplaced cultural pride, and you'll wind up further and further behind in the trade gap.

Once China ramps up, and becomes everyone's trade master within the next 20 years (including the United States') we'll all wish we could go back in time and vote YES on things like the EU Const.

Pride is a bitch.

Has nothing todo with pride.

The EU is great as it is now, this didn't change a lot. HOWEVER, some things that would have been changed what I did not like. Examples:

Our zoo's and some entertainment parcs do get money from our government. In the new situation, The London ZOO, could complain abou this fact, and then the DUtch government has to stop this. Because it was be unfair competition. Same for houses that are for rent owned by the government etc.

[Dracula]

the "Zoo example" is hilarious, no offence justsexxx but give another example....

French people are too scared of the new european markets in Central and South Eastern Europe. French people are afraid they could lose their jobs. German people also. The car manufacturing business is one of the many industries that have gone to CE Europe.
BUT, do not worry! In 15 years we will produce all european cars in China and in 100 years we'll move all to Africa. And after that, the end of the world will come. Simple as that.

[Trax]

I always liked the french
fries

[runaway]

Originally Posted by Trax

I always liked the french
fries

Yummy french fries!!

[wjxxx]

French women don`t shave armpits.

[nico-t]

seems to me the only ppl who disagree with the french no vote are the ones not living here! You clearly dont know what your talking about, it has jack shit to do with pride.
The euro made living here, in holland, twice as expensive. We aint have to fall for this twice, so my fucking vote is NO.
Plus its a statement against the government for fucking things up big time, and now they try to suck up to the ppl with their cheap ass propaganda to vote yes. They only show interest in ppl when they want something from us.

[Mako]

Originally Posted by nico-t

seems to me the only ppl who disagree with the french no vote are the ones not living here! You clearly dont know what your talking about, it has jack shit to do with pride.
The euro made living here, in holland, twice as expensive. We aint have to fall for this twice, so my fucking vote is NO.
Plus its a statement against the government for fucking things up big time, and now they try to suck up to the ppl with their cheap ass propaganda to vote yes. They only show interest in ppl when they want something from us.

What a narrow long term view, no wonder it's being voted down by the uneducated and overly prideful. "We're going to punish you Jacques Chirac! Unemployment is your fault! I vote no!".

Yeah you sure punished them. By cutting off your own nose at the same time. Real smart.

[Sarah_Jayne]

not a hope in hell now...PMQs are going to be fun

[FrankHolland]

I live in the netherlands and I will still vote YES and so will most of the people here in Holland this week.

[FrankHolland]

Originally Posted by nico-t

The euro made living here, in holland, twice as expensive. We aint have to fall for this twice, so my fucking vote is NO.

wow, that really doesn't make any sense since the EU const. has NOTHING to do with the euro.

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by FrankHolland

I live in the netherlands and I will still vote YES and so will most of the people here in Holland this week.

According to CNN most of the Netherlands is voting NO:

Polls in the Netherlands, which holds its own referendum on the constitution on Wednesday, suggest the "No" camp there is leading by 60-40 percent, and the momentum is likely to gain with the defeat in France, Oakley said.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe....eu/index.html

[MichaelP]

Your welcome

[NetRodent]

Originally Posted by SHGB

Fact: Anyone know that China is producing 400,000 engineers EVERY YEAR?

The count down has started until the China takes over!

It certainly is only a matter of time until China takes center stage. If there's one thing the colonial European powers fucked up last century, it was not fragmenting China.

[FrankHolland]

Originally Posted by cambaby

According to CNN most of the Netherlands is voting NO:

Polls in the Netherlands, which holds its own referendum on the constitution on Wednesday, suggest the "No" camp there is leading by 60-40 percent, and the momentum is likely to gain with the defeat in France, Oakley said.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe....eu/index.html

true, but taking a look every day at new polls you can clearly see the "Yes" voters increase strongly and I think by wednesday there will be more then 50% of the people voting yes.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by FrankHolland

wow, that really doesn't make any sense since the EU const. has NOTHING to do with the euro.

it will be the same effect. Borders open, more polish ppl will go to holland, economy fucks up. Again.

[PMdave]

This will not change anything but the position within the EU of those nations that voted no.
The indiviual things like unfair competition law etc will come thru now in individual rules, voted by the parlement, without any polls. All the no does is delay the process with a few years (max). In the meanwhile the french have no credibility when they need to negotionate in the parlement.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Mako

What a narrow long term view, no wonder it's being voted down by the uneducated and overly prideful. "We're going to punish you Jacques Chirac! Unemployment is your fault! I vote no!".

Yeah you sure punished them. By cutting off your own nose at the same time. Real smart.

think again smart ass, then form an opinion. Youre not from holland, or from europe, so you dont know what the fuck youre talking about.
When this eu constitution will follow through (and it will no matter what the ppl of europe want, thats the way it goes) it will have a negative influence on our country.

[swoop]

heard tonight that the Euro will decline and the US dollar should start to climb

[Mako]

Yup. All these Econ Professors in France who voted no are going to wake up Monday morning and find that the Euro is worth 10% less than it already was when buying goods.

But hey, they sure showed everyone who's boss!

[EZRhino]

Just another reason for more people not to like the French

[Theo]

People vote for or against the european constitution without even having a clue what things of their lives will affect. Needless to say most never read their country's constitution.

[VicD]

i'am gonna vote NO against the european constitution

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by EZRhino

Just another reason for more people not to like the French

on the contrary, i like them more now

[porntempel]

"we" the dutch will follow...as far as i believe the dutch polls for months already & my personal thoughts.
We don't follow France, but we see the same shit.....you are not alone !

Regards,

Steve

PS...thumbs up to Mako to open my drunk eyes to this subject...thanks dude !

[rambler]

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Has nothing todo with pride.

The EU is great as it is now, this didn't change a lot. HOWEVER, some things that would have been changed what I did not like. Examples:

Our zoo's and some entertainment parcs do get money from our government. In the new situation, The London ZOO, could complain abou this fact, and then the DUtch government has to stop this. Because it was be unfair competition. Same for houses that are for rent owned by the government etc.

Let me get this straight....You are against an open market system and for government(tax-payers) subsidized institutions(businesses)???

[Cash]

Why would you vote no to the EU constitution? For being selfish towards the newcomers, and keeping all the wealth to you?
Is that what the Americans did with you at the end of the war with the Marshal plan?

[Platinumpimp]

Good stuff.

Each to his own has always worked fine until now. Look at Switzerland, they don't give a damn and they do pretty damn well.

There are too many culture differences in Europe to have one constitutional law. People are just too different.

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by nico-t

think again smart ass, then form an opinion. Youre not from holland, or from europe, so you dont know what the fuck youre talking about.
When this eu constitution will follow through (and it will no matter what the ppl of europe want, thats the way it goes) it will have a negative influence on our country.

Unfortunatly its a dumb thing to vote no..

Its foolish pride: you think that voting no against the const. means voting no to EU (thats how it works in a lot of european simple minds) but guess what:
you are ALREADY riding the EU bus buddy.. and these were your safety belts
and you just chose not to wear them.

[Veterans Day]

can we lay any blame on Bush, it just wouldn't be the same if we couldn't

[flashfreak]

Originally Posted by nico-t

The euro made living here, in holland, twice as expensive. We aint have to fall for this twice, so my fucking vote is NO.

this is stupid. watch all countries in EU, even the ones who didn't enter EU yet (Romania, Bulgaria) and you'll see the same situation.

[http]

Originally Posted by justsexxx

You voted NO, we will do the same on 1 june

Hopefully

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by justsexxx

You voted NO, we will do the same on 1 june

Very stupid. Ok Imagine of 200 years ago the 13 States didn't don't vote for toa ccept the US constitution. Would American be as great as it is now? Um no. Europe is like early America before we had a constitution. just 13 countries ina lose confederation where the Federal government was basically non-existant. A person for N Carolina wanted to go to S Carolina's he needed to trade his N Car money for S. Carolina money and then if he went to Georgia he had to trade his S Car money for Georgia money and so on. And there were other problems because there wasn't a central government to speak of. America wasn't even remotely a player on the world stage before it's Constitution was ratified.

Europe is about the size of the US and has almost 3 times the people and if you'd get your act together you could be a world power just as powerful if not more so than the US. Good for the US you are all too busy thinking your little bitty countries by themselves are more important than they are. Alaska is bigger than ANY European country and California is bigger in population than but a few Euro countries. The French have always been full of themselves and WHY I do not know.

[adultguus]

Originally Posted by nico-t

think again smart ass, then form an opinion. Youre not from holland, or from europe, so you dont know what the fuck youre talking about.
When this eu constitution will follow through (and it will no matter what the ppl of europe want, thats the way it goes) it will have a negative influence on our country.

Dude the only one that does clearly not know what he's talking about is you. Voting no to this constitution will be extremely bad for a small country like the netherlands. What makes you think that it will have a negative influence? It has nothing to do with the euro or anything like that. It will make it easier to decide about stuff that will be untouched for years otherwise. Please read up about it again, and don't let people like Jan Marijnissen influence you.

[NickB.]

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Has nothing todo with pride.

The EU is great as it is now, this didn't change a lot. HOWEVER, some things that would have been changed what I did not like. Examples:

Our zoo's and some entertainment parcs do get money from our government. In the new situation, The London ZOO, could complain abou this fact, and then the DUtch government has to stop this. Because it was be unfair competition. Same for houses that are for rent owned by the government etc.

Damn... what would be next? I cant jerk off to animal sex anymore?

[Trax]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Very stupid. Ok Imagine of 200 years ago the 13 States didn't don't vote for toa ccept the US constitution. Would American be as great as it is now? Um no. Europe is like early America before we had a constitution. just 13 countries ina lose confederation where the Federal government was basically non-existant. A person for N Carolina wanted to go to S Carolina's he needed to trade his N Car money for S. Carolina money and then if he went to Georgia he had to trade his S Car money for Georgia money and so on. And there were other problems because there wasn't a central government to speak of. America wasn't even remotely a player on the world stage before it's Constitution was ratified.

Europe is about the size of the US and has almost 3 times the people and if you'd get your act together you could be a world power just as powerful if not more so than the US. Good for the US you are all too busy thinking your little bitty countries by themselves are more important than they are. Alaska is bigger than ANY European country and California is bigger in population than but a few Euro countries. The French have always been full of themselves and WHY I do not know.

"urope is like early America before we had a constitution."
that made me laugh lol

[Pornopat]

Originally Posted by nickbaauw

Damn... what would be next? I cant jerk off to animal sex anymore?

Yes you can. You will have top jerk off to other European animals as well though.

[Johny Traffic]

The French voting no is all Bushes fault and the right wing American Neo Cons






I dont actually know why yet, but I'll try to make up a reason by the end of the day

[Michael O]

Yeah thanks to the French people
Hopefully we will also vote no in the fall when we are going to vote here in Denmark

[Johny Traffic]

Originally Posted by Pornopat

Yes you can. You will have top jerk off to other European animals as well though.

LOL

[ControlThy]

Originally Posted by nico-t

The euro made living here, in holland, twice as expensive. We aint have to fall for this twice, so my fucking vote is NO.

You are exaggerating.

The EURO did cause prices to go up, but not as much as you claim, 10 - 15% is more realistic.

And the EURO has nothing to do with the EU constitution.