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				Dont Do Business With The Fallowing
			 
			No Joke Media - They are the dirt of the dirt.  Total morons that have no idea about business or how to conduct proper business.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Of coure this fucking homo Marco will be replying to this.. But I will put a stand on the thread right now. I asked for a logo.. I wanted a cartoon logo. He basically took it into his own hands to build it and I told him this is not how I wanted it.. After that he fixed one little uneccessary detail and told me I owe him 300 dollars. So basically I told him to go fucking finger his mother. I give two shits about this guy. I do lots of business and my friends know whats up. So NoJokeMedia Fuck U! 
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		 You should pay your bill man - you have already fucked him off by not paying him and now if you ask anyone to do something for you how will they know they will get paid. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			$300 is nothing and I am sure you can write it off against tax assuming you are declaring your internet earnings that is. 
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		 Hard to say who's side to take. Often times customers are not good at saying what they want or dont take the time to really give enough detail. Then why they are crying later its like...uhhhhhh... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	But there are the few cases where there are just an asshole designer.. On that note, let me take this opportunity to show off our cartoon skils     ![]()  | 
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		 Bc he shady fuck upfront.  Now i pay upfront. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Let's see what he did ? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Two sides of the story 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 simply coming on here slamming someone is wrong. give proof.. show us the picture? we all know there are two sides to every story 
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		 Yes, i'd really like to see the description confirmed by both parties...then the work done. Coming from a design studio that has a good cartoonist and good logo artist...I think I know what you should get for what price....THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDIN'. LETS SEE IT BOYS!   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I go taco bell ask 4 no sour cream on taco.  Taco bell make taco with sour cream and I motor away b4 checking my taco. fuckyou taco bell! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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   I think in the real world there are always 3 but on gfy somehow there are always like 7    ![]()  | 
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		 I always enjoy taco bell.  But when dumb fucking designers do what  I dont ask for then fuck them and they Madrea!     
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Show us the toon. Show us the toon. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Bluewire. Hit me on ICQ later today. I have a question for you. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 those some really nice toons 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Ya I agree always hard to say which site to take .. not that we need to take any side at all. But I have worked with designers that are just that, designers and the majority of them do not like being told what to do... some listen to you and some dont. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Why can't we see the description and the pics and decide for ourselves?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I'll figure that myself.. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 $300 for a custom cartoon? So basically he only worked on it for like 3 - 4 hours? Were you expecting something special for that low of a price??  Last Logo I designed went for $3,000, one before that $2,500.  I require 1/3 payment before starting, 1/3 after the initial designs have been approved and 1/3 when finished... that's the normal way of graphic design. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	If you didn't pay the guy, what the fuck do you care? $300 is pretty fucking cheap, personally I wouldn't even touch a project for under $2k. ![]()  | 
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