I just spoke to my attorney regarding 2257.... - GoFuckYourself.com

DWB · 05-30-2005, 04:59 PM

Though they (all the attorneys) are still decoding what a lot of it means exactly, he did confirm that you DO have to be a member of the Free Speech Coalition to be fully protected under the injunction if they get it. I stand corrected on this issue.

He also said that as far as they can tell, foreign issued IDs are OK as long as they are government issued.

I will be meeting with him in about a week once they have a more clear understanding of it all. But he did say that I needed to be compliant by June 23.

DWB · 05-30-2005, 05:07 PM

Most of that info you know... but the FSC part I was wrong about.

opflix · 05-30-2005, 05:17 PM

i'm a member

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Mako · 05-30-2005, 05:17 PM

Nice DWB, thanks for the info.

imafuckingaussie · 05-30-2005, 05:28 PM

Does anyone know if it effects Non USA webmasters with their server in USA?

I could ask a lawyer here, but I doubt they would even know what 2257 was.

Nicky · 05-30-2005, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by imafuckingaussie

Does anyone know if it effects Non USA webmasters with their server in USA?

I could ask a lawyer here, but I doubt they would even know what 2257 was.

I need to know this too

opflix · 05-30-2005, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by imafuckingaussie

Does anyone know if it effects Non USA webmasters with their server in USA?

I could ask a lawyer here, but I doubt they would even know what 2257 was.

u can't be prosecuted nor can your host (since they have no administrative control over anything on your site). JMHO

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kernelpanic · 05-30-2005, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by imafuckingaussie

Does anyone know if it effects Non USA webmasters with their server in USA?

I could ask a lawyer here, but I doubt they would even know what 2257 was.

If your server is in USA, then technically you are supposed be in compliance. However, if you weren't, you wouldn't be on top of the hitlist.

kernelpanic · 05-30-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by opflix

u can't be prosecuted nor can your host (since they have no administrative control over anything on your site). JMHO

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The DOJ could have your server pulled if they really wanted to.

StuartD · 05-30-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Though they (all the attorneys) are still decoding what a lot of it means exactly, he did confirm that you DO have to be a member of the Free Speech Coalition to be fully protected under the injunction if they get it. I stand corrected on this issue.

He also said that as far as they can tell, foreign issued IDs are OK as long as they are government issued.

I will be meeting with him in about a week once they have a more clear understanding of it all. But he did say that I needed to be compliant by June 23.

was "fully protected" his term or yours because being a member means diddly squat in the grand scheme of things. You aren't fully protected of anything by being a member.

You can still get yourself into trouble if you just sit on your ass going "I'm safe, I'm a member... I'll just wait and see what happens"

directfiesta · 05-30-2005, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by imafuckingaussie

Does anyone know if it effects Non USA webmasters with their server in USA?

I could ask a lawyer here, but I doubt they would even know what 2257 was.

Why expose yourself to trouble ???/ They could walk in at your host and " seize" your box... You have nothing not compliant, we will bring it back free of charge ....

Move your servers out. I moved all my adult related to Canada.

opflix · 05-30-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

was "fully protected" his term or yours because being a member means diddly squat in the grand scheme of things. You aren't fully protected of anything by being a member.

You can still get yourself into trouble if you just sit on your ass going "I'm safe, I'm a member... I'll just wait and see what happens"

i doubt anyone is saying that... its just saying that "hey, if u want to avoid getting jumped on by the DOJ for things COVERED under the injunction, then join... otherwise, u r on your own".... unless of course u plan on having your OWN attorney file an injunction for you privately. if so, fuck it... ignore everything here.

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Basic_man · 05-30-2005, 05:38 PM

Be compliant or die !

imafuckingaussie · 05-30-2005, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Why expose yourself to trouble ???/ They could walk in at your host and " seize" your box... You have nothing not compliant, we will bring it back free of charge ....

Move your servers out. I moved all my adult related to Canada.

So what are some good hosts in Canada?, and you are sure that you are sae if the server is there, dont they have the same rules regarding 2257? (probably ignorant question as I dont know your laws etc.)

CheeseFrog · 05-30-2005, 05:46 PM

Link to FSC plz? kthx!

kernelpanic · 05-30-2005, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imafuckingaussie

So what are some good hosts in Canada?, and you are sure that you are sae if the server is there, dont they have the same rules regarding 2257? (probably ignorant question as I dont know your laws etc.)

http://iweb.ca/

kernelpanic · 05-30-2005, 05:49 PM

oops double post

Redrob · 05-30-2005, 05:51 PM

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/

directfiesta · 05-30-2005, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imafuckingaussie

So what are some good hosts in Canada?, and you are sure that you are sae if the server is there, dont they have the same rules regarding 2257? (probably ignorant question as I dont know your laws etc.)

I am at Iweb.ca but thru a reseller. much better deal ...

P4 2.4
1024
160 gigs
Cpanel/WHM
1200 gigs bw/month
5 ip's

$ US 139.00 a month. no setup fee

If you want, I do resell for them.

SureFire · 05-30-2005, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Most of that info you know... but the FSC part I was wrong about.

FSC = Free Speech Coalition?

DWB · 05-30-2005, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

was "fully protected" his term or yours because being a member means diddly squat in the grand scheme of things. You aren't fully protected of anything by being a member.

You can still get yourself into trouble if you just sit on your ass going "I'm safe, I'm a member... I'll just wait and see what happens"

Protected as in regarding the new 2257 chganges IF they get the injunction and you are part of the FSC. Not as in you can do what you want, damn the law.

Webby · 05-30-2005, 10:44 PM

Has anyone actually read the 2257 code??? :-)

One extract alone makes it totally impractical....

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(ii) Where the depiction is published on an Internet computer site or service, a copy of any URL associated with the depiction

If the US DOJ seriously think I'm gonna list all imaging for every damned website and present this in a nice dossier for em - that is not going to happen.

At the scale of website production I ain't employing an office block to fill in their crap.

Sure am pleased I never trusted the bastards in the first place and removed all connections from that country. It's even clearer now that it's managed by a load of ... fairly naive.. control freaks with a power complex.

JoeA · 05-30-2005, 10:55 PM

Living outside the US and being hosted there isn't a problem.

Hosts are only distributors. They do not have any editorial control over web sites .. That's what I was told tonight.

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