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jojojo 05-30-2005 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy
But the way you worded your thread seems to me a scare tactic to get people to buy your SEO tutorials/consultation. The use of 2257 and SEO have very little to do with each other, it just so happens to be a hot topic of conversation with the upcoming law going into effect in a few weeks. If you want to peddle your SEO, try doing it without scaring people into it. It will work much better in the long run.

WG

lol I don't need scare people. They are already scared. I'm bringing up an obvious fact - that those with SE pages don't need to conform to tgp/mgp rules and therefore dont need to use content.

Some people didn't even realize that this was the case. Now they know and now they know there is a way to learn :thumbsup

WiredGuy 05-30-2005 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
lol I don't need scare people. They are already scared. I'm bringing up an obvious fact - that those with SE pages don't need to conform to tgp/mgp rules and therefore dont need to use content.

Some people didn't even realize that this was the case. Now they know and now they know there is a way to learn :thumbsup

So why did you bring up 2257's then? You could have just said no content needed - SEO your site... etc. etc.

WG

xxxjay 05-30-2005 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
lol I don't need scare people. They are already scared. I'm bringing up an obvious fact - that those with SE pages don't need to conform to tgp/mgp rules and therefore dont need to use content.

Some people didn't even realize that this was the case. Now they know and now they know there is a way to learn :thumbsup

Your arguement is wrong on so many levels and you just had 2 of the best SE guys in the biz tell you that. If you want to continue with your profiteering...fine.

:2 cents:

jojojo 05-30-2005 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy
So why did you bring up 2257's then? You could have just said no content needed - SEO your site... etc. etc.

WG

Because people are looking for other ways to make money from the internet now that 2257 is getting so sticky... and most people don't know that SE sites can easily become immune to 2257 laws by removing their content.

People are scared about 2257 --- this specific aspect of SE style sites applies to 2257.

jojojo 05-30-2005 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Your arguement is wrong on so many levels and you just had 2 of the best SE guys in the biz tell you that. If you want to continue with your profiteering...fine.

:2 cents:

I really don't give a shit what other SEO's think... I don't expect any support from my competition :1orglaugh

I've never got any love from other SEO's on this board but I have got lots of new clients... I don't expect anything to change... you and the other haters reply while people who don't reply are the ones hiring me on icq :thumbsup

xxxjay 05-30-2005 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
Because people are looking for other ways to make money from the internet now that 2257 is getting so sticky... and most people don't know that SE sites can easily become immune to 2257 laws by removing their content.

People are scared about 2257 --- this specific aspect of SE style sites applies to 2257.

Maybe if you repeat that enough times, even you'll start to believe it.

xxxjay 05-30-2005 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
I really don't give a shit what other SEO's think... I don't expect any support from my competition :1orglaugh

I've never got any love from other SEO's on this board but I have got lots of new clients... I don't expect anything to change... you and the other haters reply while people who don't reply are the ones hiring me on icq :thumbsup

Yawn...I've been turning away SEO clients for months -- hell I'll send you the leads if you want them.

Me and WG are technicly competitors, but we still are friends (I like to think we are anyway - haha) so it ain't like that.

I just think what you are doing is wrong.

jojojo 05-30-2005 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Yawn...I've been turning away SEO clients for months -- hell I'll send you the leads if you want them.

Me and WG are technicly competitors, but we still are friends (I like to think we are anyway - haha) so it ain't like that.

I just think what you are doing is wrong.

What is it that I'm doing? People are already worried about 2257.

I'm letting them know that you don't need content to make money from adult and that those worried about 2257 should get into SEO.

2257 is a big wake up call for a lot of people and they are looking for other ways to make money. I'm letting people know what the deal is with SEO and 2257 and how SE webmasters got it made in the shade as far as 2257 goes because we don't need content :D

You can forward those SEO leads to [email protected] :thumbsup

xxxjay 05-30-2005 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo

You can forward those SEO leads to [email protected] :thumbsup

Yep, just as I figured.

WiredGuy 05-30-2005 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Yawn...I've been turning away SEO clients for months -- hell I'll send you the leads if you want them.

Me and WG are technicly competitors, but we still are friends (I like to think we are anyway - haha) so it ain't like that.

I just think what you are doing is wrong.

I agree. Although people like Jay and Marc from Hoes are technically competitors, we bounce ideas off each other all the time to see what works and what doesn't. I don't see other SEO's as competition I'd like to get rid of but rather an ally to figuring out what the SE's have changed and whats working lately.

WG

jojojo 05-30-2005 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Yep, just as I figured.

lol I'm being sarcastic I don't expect you send me anything :1orglaugh

guschi2k 05-30-2005 02:35 AM

...damn jojojo, that was one misleading mofu of a title. why don't you stop spamming your SEO stuff already ??? :glugglug

jojojo 05-30-2005 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy
I agree. Although people like Jay and Marc from Hoes are technically competitors, we bounce ideas off each other all the time to see what works and what doesn't. I don't see other SEO's as competition I'd like to get rid of but rather an ally to figuring out what the SE's have changed and whats working lately.

WG

well I've never got any kind of support from you in any of my threads over the years... or from any other seo guy for that matter. All I ever get is criticism... maybe its because I publically post my successful top ten rankings and that pisses of most other SEO guys...

Webby 05-30-2005 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
well I've never got any kind of support from you in any of my threads over the years... or from any other seo guy for that matter. All I ever get is criticism... maybe its because I publically post my successful top ten rankings and that pisses of most other SEO guys...


Sheesh.. this thread keeps hitting to the top and just read the header...

"SEO style sites are immune from 2257 laws..." DUH??

Cummon jojojo! :-) OK.. I know ya want to sell shit, but that claim is a bit bold! :winkwink:

xxxjay 05-30-2005 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy
I don't see other SEO's as competition I'd like to get rid of but rather an ally to figuring out what the SE's have changed and whats working lately.

WG

So it's OK for me to post your priority ID tag? :)

:1orglaugh

jojojo 05-30-2005 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Sheesh.. this thread keeps hitting to the top and just read the header...

"SEO style sites are immune from 2257 laws..." DUH??

Cummon jojojo! :-) OK.. I know ya want to sell shit, but that claim is a bit bold! :winkwink:

No its not bold... it true... SEO style sites don't need content and/or can remove all content and thus are immune...

Any site that doesnt use images is immune.

xxxjay 05-30-2005 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
well I've never got any kind of support from you in any of my threads over the years... or from any other seo guy for that matter. All I ever get is criticism... maybe its because I publically post my successful top ten rankings and that pisses of most other SEO guys...

When I had been "been doing SEO for last 2.5 years" (notice the .5 - haha) - I would have done some newbie shit like that. You have never even been on my radar until now and it isn't becasue of your SEO -- it's your shitty ethics that got you noticed.

Maybe you get so much "criticism" because you are easy not to like. You claim your are not profiteering off 2257, but look at the title of this thread.

I wonder how your "clients" must feel..that is...if you have any by the time this thread is over.

jojojo 05-30-2005 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
So it's OK for me to post your priority ID tag? :)

:1orglaugh

You don't need a priority ID tag when you use this backdoor url to submit - just type in any 23 characters and it will work :winkwink:
http://www.google.com/priority_id_su...rs/submit.html

jojojo 05-30-2005 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
When I had been "been doing SEO for last 2.5 years" (notice the .5 - haha) - I would have done some newbie shit like that. You have never even been on my radar until now and it isn't becasue of your SEO -- it's your shitty ethics that got you noticed.

Maybe you get so much "criticism" because you are easy not to like. You claim your are not profiteering off 2257, but look at the title of this thread.

I wonder how your "clients" must feel..that is...if you have any by the time this thread is over.

lol how is posting examples of top ten rankings "newbie shit"??

It's because of those examples that I have got so many new clients.

I have never seen another self proclaimed seo guy post an example of a top ten result. Most seo guys are nothing but fancy lipservice.

I never said I wasn't profitting from 2257 laws :1orglaugh

I said don't make it out like I am ripping people off or acting unethically by providing people with the truth about seo and how if you work the se's only you don't even have to worry about the 2257 laws.

Webby 05-30-2005 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
No its not bold... it true... SEO style sites don't need content and/or can remove all content and thus are immune...

Any site that doesnt use images is immune.


Sure ain't what the header says!! :-)

It does say that SEO sites are immune from USC 2257 - not that they are immune as long as you remove all images/content.

There could be one hell of a lot of use of browser back keys if the imagery ain't there! BUT.. often words speak louder! :-) Like in this instance....

Rorschach 05-30-2005 03:02 AM

only a dumb shit gives away the best cards in the deck...

jojojo 05-30-2005 03:03 AM

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It does say that SEO sites are immune from USC 2257 - not that they are immune as long as you remove all images/content.
yes you must read the first few lines of the thread to understand what I am talking about.. sorry to put you through all that effort - maybe they should make the titles accept 1000 characters... :1orglaugh

xxxjay 05-30-2005 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
lol how is posting examples of top ten rankings "newbie shit"??

It's because of those examples that I have got so many new clients.

I have never seen another self proclaimed seo guy post an example of a top ten result. Most seo guys are nothing but fancy lipservice.

I never said I wasn't profitting from 2257 laws :1orglaugh

I said don't make it out like I am ripping people off or acting unethically by providing people with the truth about seo and how if you work the se's only you don't even have to worry about the 2257 laws.

Dude, so you are building "a site with no content" -- meaning when some is looking for "hardcore porn videos" and they get to your site: There will be none there. So basicly, you are just building a bunch of doorway pages.

Wow, real cutting edge.

jojojo 05-30-2005 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Dude, so you are building "a site with no content" -- meaning when some is looking for "hardcore porn videos" and they get to your site: There will be none there. So basicly, you are just building a bunch of doorway pages.

Wow, real cutting edge.

well yeah its much better to send them to a paysite and let them pay for the hardcore content.

who said anything about cutting edge lol?? :1orglaugh

I'm building sites that get ranked high for big terms and send traffic to paysites where the surfer buys a membership :thumbsup :1orglaugh

xxxjay 05-30-2005 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
well yeah its much better to send them to a paysite and let them pay for the hardcore content.

who said anything about cutting edge lol?? :1orglaugh

I'm building sites that get ranked high for big terms and send traffic to paysites where the surfer buys a membership :thumbsup :1orglaugh

IE: doorway pages.

Wow, very 1998.

jojojo 05-30-2005 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
IE: doorway pages.

Wow, very 1998.

Just because a site you get to has nothing but ads and links to sponsors you call that a doorway page lol? call it what you want... I don't need to use any free samples to get the surfer to click into the paysite.

I'd rather have a domain with a FPA on it get ranked vs a gallery etc...

what exactly is your point? :1orglaugh

Here's a little newsflash for you: any page/site that ISN'T a paysite would be considered a "doorway" to a paysite. :1orglaugh

xxxjay 05-30-2005 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
Just because a site you get to has nothing but ads and links to sponsors you call that a doorway page lol? call it what you want... I don't need to use any free samples to get the surfer to click into the paysite.

I'd rather have a domain with a FPA on it get ranked vs a gallery etc...

what exactly is your point? :1orglaugh

Here's a little newsflash for you: any page/site that ISN'T a paysite would be considered a "doorway" to a paysite. :1orglaugh

It's time to break out the big guns:
http://g.myspace.com/00047/37/64/47634673_l.jpg

Sarah_Jayne 05-30-2005 03:38 AM

lol..this thread is like a micro-study of gfy stuborness. On the one hand ypu have a guy endlessly trying to cash in on a current events issue and on the other you have the bullheaded webmasters that are expressing their hate of spam [unless it is their own] by refusing to understand what he meant to say.

xxxjay 05-30-2005 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
lol..this thread is like a micro-study of gfy stuborness. On the one hand ypu have a guy endlessly trying to cash in on a current events issue and on the other you have the bullheaded webmasters that are expressing their hate of spam [unless it is their own] by refusing to understand what he meant to say.

http://g.myspace.com/00047/37/64/47634673_l.jpg

jojojo 05-30-2005 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
lol..this thread is like a micro-study of gfy stuborness. On the one hand ypu have a guy endlessly trying to cash in on a current events issue and on the other you have the bullheaded webmasters that are expressing their hate of spam [unless it is their own] by refusing to understand what he meant to say.

lol very well put... I am very gracious for their bumps :thumbsup

just pleaaaaaaaaaase stop with the cats :mad: :Oh crap they are haunting me :helpme

xxxjay 05-30-2005 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
other you have the bullheaded webmasters .

Please don't call me a webmaster...it is like calling black people hahahahahahas...very derogitory.

xxxjay 05-30-2005 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
lol very well put... I am very gracious for their bumps :thumbsup

just pleaaaaaaaaaase stop with the cats :mad: :Oh crap they are haunting me :helpme

http://g.myspace.com/00047/37/64/47634673_l.jpg

xxxjay 05-30-2005 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
lol very well put... I am very gracious for their bumps :thumbsup

Yeah, you are looking good too. I guess even bad publicity is good.

jojojo 05-30-2005 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Yeah, you are looking good too. I guess even bad publicity is good.

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

:upsidedow

xxxjay 05-30-2005 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
:upsidedow

Jojojo = Clickclickclick...look and see how he can get into an arguement with himself and win:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=474094

No wonder people don't like you.

jojojo 05-30-2005 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Yeah, you are looking good too. I guess even bad publicity is good.

It's not bad publicty when the only one hating on you is a righteous competitor :1orglaugh

adult webmasters don't give a shit about what you are saying. They are interested in:

a) how to make more money
b) how to protect their own ass

Learning seo helps them achieve both things - icq me people.

Webby 05-30-2005 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
It's time to break out the big guns:
http://g.myspace.com/00047/37/64/47634673_l.jpg


Mmmmm.. getting hot in here...

Thats two nice pussies you got there xxxjay! :)

xxxjay 05-30-2005 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jojojo
It's not bad publicty when the only one hating on you is a righteous competitor :1orglaugh

adult webmasters don't give a shit about what you are saying. They are interested in:

a) how to make more money
b) how to protect their own ass

Learning seo helps them achieve both things - icq me people.

Jojojo = Clickclickclick...look and see how he can get into an arguement with himself and win:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=474094

LISTEN TO SLUMPBUSTER:
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus...20050530035424


jojojo 05-30-2005 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Jojojo = Clickclickclick...look and see how he can get into an arguement with himself and win:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=474094

No wonder people don't like you.

lol wtf are you talking about thats not me :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

that would be some creative marketing though lol you give me too much credit.

xxxjay 05-30-2005 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Mmmmm.. getting hot in here...

Thats two nice pussies you got there xxxjay! :)

THANKS MAN! :)

LISTEN TO SLUMPBUSTER:
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus...20050530035424


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