OK... Can you stand up front and explain this to a judge? :-) I doubt he'll be impressed much when you say "you can't take down your pics because they are explicit... " - he'll take em down for you if they don't comply with the law.

Tho.. I do get the chance that there may not be much traffic lost in se rankings by not having pics.

Wow...this has my vote for most frustrating thread of the day. Granted, jojojo didn't explain the "explicit image" issues very well...but still, are the rest of you that daft that you really couldn't understand what he was "trying" to say.

sweeeet a semi-positive post - thanks Jimmy...

Yes you are right - most webmasters have a vague idea from all the info they read on the net... just as most of the clients I have taught this week did... but they really didn't know where or how to begin... so on top of learning WHAT WORKS and what to avoid they are also given a plan of attack - build this do this build this etc etc etc...

again the info is out there and i'm sure most people have read a lot of it but they don't have any success in the SE's now.

There is a lot of trial and error involved in SEO... it usually takes 60-90 dys to see ANY kind of decent activity in the SE's... how many months and hours do YOU have to test ideas you have pieced together from various sources dated and outdated??

Time is money.... ICQ me today.

Yep I agree with you to a certain point, but anyone if they had sense could really spend a few hours digging around and studying abit rather than forking out $1000, hell there's even tools you can use for $200, which will put you on your way, not necessarily get youa top ranking but put you on the right path!

??? I meant you can't take down your pics because they are explicit and thats what tgps/mgps want from you... you can't just email all the mgps you submit to and say "I've removed all the explicit content from my galleries... now its nothing but non explicit ads to the paysite" :1orglaugh

I got a nice ebook course that normally sells for $199.95 - but got a special offer where you save $190... just $9.95! It's even got a special two page section on Google :-)

I'm sure most people have spent some hours doing this and yet they don't have top ten rankings or are making good money from the SE's... most of my new clients had done a fair share of reading before they ever talked to me and none of them were doing well or really had a clue where to begin to build something that they can see results from within 60-90 days.

I think at this point there is enough information on the web about the adult business that everything has been explained and discussed... yet there are still people making less than $2k/mth in this business... why is that? why isnt everyone making $30,000/mth?

A whole bunch of generic information is not enough to be successful.

amen to that Chimmy

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JoJo should explain how SE's themselves will evade the 2257 regs... that would be far more interesting.
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hell.. I must be very SLOW!! :-) Basically... if I get it right this time round, you are suggesting you knowingly submit to tgp's and then remove image linkage?

Sounds too smart ass for me... I prefer to do as I say and operate outside the US and ingore their laws.

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No offence to jojojo.. but if he can't explain the "explcit image" shit - he needs some more fundamental stuff sorted out first before bothering about SEO.

O.o are u joking.... u still don't get it??

I haven't submitted to tgps/mgps in years.....

ok let me explain this one more time really slow....

IF YOU SUBMIT TO MGPS AND TGPS YOU MUST FOLLOW THEIR RULES WHICH MEANS HAVING PICS OF EXPLICIT CONTENT (DUH THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A GALLERY)... IF YOU TRY AND REMOVE THE PICS YOU WILL BE BANNED (DUH)

If you make sites that are designed for SE's only... these sites aren't submitted to tgps and mgps therefore you are not bound by any rules... your site can be nothing but ads, text, whatever the hell you want to put on the page you can do without jeapordizing traffic.

please tell me you finally understand :|

Simple, if certain webmasters are only making say "$2000" per month then simply their not working hard enough.


Also there is a few places on the web where there is more than a whole bunch of generic information!

Seek and ye shall find, it's that simple :)

Hell.. I got an easier way!! Can I just buy ya a drink instead??? :drinkup

Not to be snobby... but this is exactly the reason that the US govt is enacting this. Not accusing anyone of anything but far too many people prefer to operate "outside the US, and ignore their laws".

This has led to the permutation of CRAP.

People with this philosophy need to wake up.... where are the top 10 Search Engines located? IN THE MOTHER FUCKING US. After 2257 is in full effect the SE's will be developing filters and blocks that stop access to adult from non-compliant sites. It won't matter if your shit is on the moon... Did anyone consider that?
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I agree... thats why its best to use no images at all in promotion... let them join a paysite and pay some $$ if they want content...

Always here to offer a helping hand....

Here's what Jojojo has been trying to say to all of you...but in my own words

Those of you who decide to continue to generate your traffic through tgp's and mgp's will need to ensure that all of your galleries are compliant with the new 2257 regs.

Not to mention that all of your galleries that you have submitted in the past, that are archived on tgp and mgp sites, will probably be illegal after June 23rd, as they will not comply to the new 2257 regs.

So, jojojo has a very good point. And here is where I think most of you are confused. He is NOT saying yoiu can make a SEO page, and leave explicit images on it, without complying to the new regs. He IS saying that with a SEO page, you don't need to include any sexually explicit images on it at all.

So, with the quickly approaching June 23rd deadline, I agree with jojojo. SEO certainly does look like a good route to go.

ooo, shame on you, you selling the seobook.com's book for a knockoff price?

I'll see your seobook and raise you one googlecash :)

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Yeah? My consulting fee is $200 per hour. "How to make money in adult after June 23rd" will be on sale when I wake up.
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Put it this way, anyone in their right mind would not use sexually explicit images on an seo page in the first place, I've never used sexually explicit images on any seo pages I've built, at the extreme maybe the odd nipple here and there, obviously some sites do display like mgp's and tgp's etc etc

Unique text based content has always been one of the outlining facts with regards to seo, many sites out there will rank high for certain keywords when they switch from a thumb based layout to text etc

Yes this is the whole point of why I posted... if you have any banners/images with explicit content you can take them done no problem - the main point IS that you can build sites with no explicit content and get ranked high... you don't need any content to make a boatload of $$ in SEO.

The US govt is something that manages the US badly. It is not a govt that has *any* rights on other nations else why don't we all observe the laws of Angola?

I never did comply with any laws of the US - simply because they were not the laws I live under. But... I did comply with the principle of 2257 as it was, since this was at least an effort to protect children.. tho the enforcement to back it up has been an utter disgrace and most likely, will continue that way.

Under no circumstances is any person from another country - and one who has no servers in US territory obliged to comply with laws like this. They are irrelevant and unenforceable elsewhere and sure, will be the subject of more than one case.

Sure... the moment this current bullshit starts messing with other nations, they are not going to sit quiet and adopt the "one nation under God" bullshit.

If you don't comprehend the concept that this is a hypocritical law that in no way enhances the protection of children, (which many would be in agreement with and actually comply), but a raving idiot piece of legislation out of a perverse govt which is now abusing ideas of child protection for their own bullshit religeous/political scenarios. I pity the children in the US who are abused - they ain't got a hope - just tell em God is looking after them.

On engines... of course there is more than a fair chance the US will propose censoring them as well - it's part of the warped makeup of the current Administration. However, the net will be here long after they have gone.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Suppose I gotta look guilty and apologise now?? :-)

nope, not at all :) information wants to be free lol...

but glad I never bought that one, can't say the same for googlecash, I acutally bought that one...but these are some interesting reviews on the seobook LOL

http://www.web-advertising-info.com/seobook/

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This is a bullshit thread using 2257 fear to push SEO consulting.

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Since when is using fear based advertising "bullshit"?

Everyone uses this form of marketing so why is it all of sudden "bullshit"?

If someone chooses to stop submitting/dealing with hardcore/explicit content that is one less person to add to the problem isn't it? Sounds like I am helping everyone here... except people who already work the SE's themselves... so your response/attitude toward this makes sense.

Hey! I don't want people ICQ'ing me for free SEO!
WG

So should they email instead? :winkwink:

:1orglaugh :upsidedow :thumbsup

I sen't you an ICQ msg, but no reply.

:1orglaugh OK!.. Gotta admit something! I've never read the seobook or googlecash... but I was the biggest mug for all and every bit of software that was released relating to se promo :-)

Ya want a cupboard of se submission software going back ten years ?? :) It's gotta be worth antique value soon!

Everybody is putting the "2257" buzzword in EVERYTHING and it is distracting from the real issue at hand. It is not very often that I will judge somebody like this, but I think it is just unethical. We need to pay attention to the real matter at hand instead of profiteering from a bad situation.

It's like being one of those ambulence chaser lawyers...very slimey.

I am hardly worried about your competition.

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You are doing the same thing pushing OCcash saying how you are 2257 complient blah blah don't act all righteous...

2257 is a shitty reality... switching your focus to SEO style sites is definitely a solution that works.

Just listen to WG jojojo...

I'm hoping to earn a full dollar this week off engines - but I might have to persuade some friends to signup to reach that target :winkwink:

But.. least my earnings are tax free...

Wrong again. I never pushed OCCash off as "2257 compliant". We are in the same boat everyone else is. I made one post saying that we were aware of the issue, just so our webmasters knew that we were not sleeping on it:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=472860

Get your facts right before you put words in my mouth.

Trying to make money off 2257 fear is like sucking the oxygen out of the room and standing there with a bag of air and charging people to breathe.

Come up with a new angle to hawk your SEO. :321GFY

:2 cents:

There are a lot of people in this business who are afraid of what is going to happen over the next few years with this issue...

lol you act as if I am using this 2257 to rip people off lol

2257 or not - learning SEO is something these people should do anyways and this new sketchy 2257 laws are just another reason to do it.

But the way you worded your thread seems to me a scare tactic to get people to buy your SEO tutorials/consultation. The use of 2257 and SEO have very little to do with each other, it just so happens to be a hot topic of conversation with the upcoming law going into effect in a few weeks. If you want to peddle your SEO, try doing it without scaring people into it. It will work much better in the long run.

WG

Well put! :) You going to San Diego?

Nah, going to Florida Internext for my next show. Have a great time in SD Jay.
WG