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Old 05-29-2005, 06:26 PM   #1
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SEO style sites are immune from 2257 laws... don't wait forever to learn it!

That's right... sites that are built for the SE's can have whatever content you want - or no content at all - in fact most SE style sites have no content at all - you can use nothing but text if you want.

Regardless of what the fallout of the 2257 laws are - those with no published content to worry about will be safe with no worries.

Don't wait until things get so saturated... learn everything there is to know about seo and how to make money with adult in the search engines and you will be one step ahead and safe from prosecution.

IF you don't already know how to get top ten rankings in competitive keywords in Google and Yahoo it DOESN'T MAKE SENSE NOT LEARN SEO.

I teach people on a consulting level everything they need to know about SEO and how to make money targetting adult keywords.

Protect yourself and diversify - my rates are peanuts compared to the money you can make and can you really put a price on protecting your freedom/safety?

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Old 05-29-2005, 06:27 PM   #2
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lol that was a fast reply
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lol that was a fast reply
i read pretty fast, and that was the 1st thing that poured out of me.
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wow, so my sites that have pics of naked females with two cocks in their ass, but are made for se's and promoting another program.....ARE SAFE???

wow, to think, i was worried all this time
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wow, so my sites that have pics of naked females with two cocks in their ass, but are made for se's and promoting another program.....ARE SAFE???

wow, to think, i was worried all this time
dont worry. 1k seo guy is here to save the day. for a grand do you wear the cape and the mask, or just the mask?

(just fucking with you. give us an example of a decent keyword you have placed on any major s/e for example.)
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(just fucking with you. give us an example of a decent keyword you have placed on any major s/e for example.)
Here we go again, jojojo
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he better be naked for a grand
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Old 05-29-2005, 06:38 PM   #9
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Here we go again, jojojo
another person asking to prove that he can do what he says he can do?

sure. im positive he hears that alot. and again, im just fucking around and busting balls here, but if you are going to pay this guy for this kind of service i would think anyone in there right mind would want to see a few examples.
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That's right... sites that are built for the SE's can have whatever content you want - or no content at all
That's not even close to true. You can try putting whatever content you want but don't kid yourself, once the new 2257's are in effect, whether your pages were built for SEO or not, the DOJ won't care. Consultant an attorney, not an SEO about 2257's.
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Old 05-29-2005, 06:42 PM   #11
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wow, so my sites that have pics of naked females with two cocks in their ass, but are made for se's and promoting another program.....ARE SAFE???

wow, to think, i was worried all this time
Huh? I said if you make site specifically designed for the SE's you don't need to use any content.


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(just fucking with you. give us an example of a decent keyword you have placed on any major s/e for example.)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ts&btnG=Search
joggs.com

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...1&q=sex+movies
roccomovies.net

I got a few new ones too here is a very recent one:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=bus...gle=1&ei=UTF-8
995busty.com

He got a lot of other smaller top 10 kws too...

I'm sure I can get some testimonals posted here from people I have been recently teaching from my original thread...

If you don't own a paysite there is no reason you should have to deal with explicit pics to make a living from sponsors. Also seo work is much easier and more lucrative and can be for the most part residual - and its far less repetitive and restricting than gallery submitting etc.

I know a lot of gallery submitters etc that without this part of the adult business would be back in university, back working at their shit job or unemployed altogether... don't wait until its too late... take some of the money you are earning from this business and invest it into knowledge that will keep you employed in the future with no worries.
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That's not even close to true. You can try putting whatever content you want but don't kid yourself, once the new 2257's are in effect, whether your pages were built for SEO or not, the DOJ won't care. Consultant an attorney, not an SEO about 2257's.
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my point is that because SEO style sites arent listed on mgps etc etc you can remove any content that is there anytime without risk of losing your "traffic" and also you can build new sites with no images at all if you want and just funnel all the traffic to paysites using text.

Text advertising sells as good (some argue better than) as advertising with images also.
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That's not even close to true. You can try putting whatever content you want but don't kid yourself, once the new 2257's are in effect, whether your pages were built for SEO or not, the DOJ won't care. Consultant an attorney, not an SEO about 2257's.
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What he said.
But for the record, there may be a bigger push toward text-based sites out of fear of the 2257 crap.
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my point is that because SEO style sites arent listed on mgps etc etc you can remove any content that is there anytime without risk of losing your "traffic" and also you can build new sites with no images at all if you want and just funnel all the traffic to paysites using text.

Text advertising sells as good (some argue better than) as advertising with images also.
You're first post said you could use whatever content you want and hinted towards being protected by 2257's. I'm just pointing out thats not true.
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my point is that because SEO style sites arent listed on mgps etc etc you can remove any content that is there anytime without risk of losing your "traffic" and also you can build new sites with no images at all if you want and just funnel all the traffic to paysites using text.

Text advertising sells as good (some argue better than) as advertising with images also.
So do you SEO out legally obscene text as well? I find that pretty hard to believe.
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You're first post said you could use whatever content you want and hinted towards being protected by 2257's. I'm just pointing out thats not true.
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ahh - what I meant was you can use anything you want (explcit, nonexplcit, no pics at all) - I meant that you have the freedom to put whatever content you want on your page because you arent relying on a MGP, TGP etc etc to get your traffic... that you have complete freedom to put whatever you want without risking traffic - so if you want to use some pics of chicks faces only or no pics at all you can.

You don't need to use sexually explicit text to sell a paysite.
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ha! all we need is to add "Search Engine Archive" to all TGP to get exempt of 2257?

Thanks , i saved 1k$ of consultant.

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ha! all we need is to add "Search Engine Archive" to all TGP to get exempt of 2257?

Thanks , i saved 1k$ of consultant.

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I meant that you have the freedom to put whatever content you want on your page because you arent relying on a MGP, TGP etc etc to get your traffic... that you have complete freedom to put whatever you want without risking traffic - so if you want to use some pics of chicks faces only or no pics at all you can.
Very true, most TGP webmasters are very anal, they want lots of hardcore in your gallery or they won't list it. Same with thumbnail, hardcore thumbs get most clicks, and you need that to keep high production, and you need high production to keep your traffic level, etc.

Anyway, the TGP/MGP submitters are going die anyway. All TGPs will have softcore thumbs and send to sponsor's FHG
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Very true, most TGP webmasters are very anal, they want lots of hardcore in your gallery or they won't list it. Same with thumbnail, hardcore thumbs get most clicks, and you need that to keep high production, and you need high production to keep your traffic level, etc.

Anyway, the TGP/MGP submitters are going die anyway. All TGPs will have softcore thumbs and send to sponsor's FHG
I keep hearing this same trend about submitting... Lenny made a very interesting post about this before...

I think that most gallery submitters are making less today then they were a year ago and that their traffic levels are shrinking etc...

Perfectgonzo just came out with a plugin that will host and do everything for you in terms of displaying a group of thumbs for your MGP/TGP etc...

how long before every sponsor offers this or even better someone finds a way to deliver galleries this way across a multiple sponsors...

if there is ANY WAY that a mgp/tgp gallery submitter can negatively affect the paysite from a legal standpoint you better beleive they will be only offering hosted galleries and or paying outsourcers to make and submit galleries for them that they control...

perhaps ALL of these signs are wrong and gallery submitters are safe and their income is safe for many more years to come... but what if it isnt? Isn't it worth it to diverisy now while you still have an income?

I don't charge a lot. I have existing top ten rankings now which I have shown. I have taught people recently that are very happy. ICQ me.
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That's right... sites that are built for the SE's can have whatever content you want - or no content at all - in fact most SE style sites have no content at all - you can use nothing but text if you want.
I got a script churning spam pages out at 57,000 an hour with nice hardcore pics - it's nice to know this is "legal" under US law.

All I gotta do now is run four copies of the script...
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I got a script churning spam pages out at 57,000 an hour with nice hardcore pics - it's nice to know this is "legal" under US law.

All I gotta do now is run four copies of the script...
WTF are talking about

I said sites desiged for SE's allow you the freedom to use whatever kind of content you want without restriction because of tgp/mgp or whatever RULES... if you want to use no content at all or just blown up pics of chick's ears you can do so without worrying about what some tgp/mgp owner thinks.

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or simply read GFY for a month or two, all the 'secrets' have been spilt MANY MANY times on this board, there is no buying the HARD WORK for 1k though...


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LOL most of the information is out there... andmost people have surfed and read a lot of this info... but do they have sites in the top 10? nope... why? because there is too much information out there and not enough practical info. There are also subtle things that can affect your rate of success that only someone who has gone through these ropes before can convey to you.

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Yes $1k only buys you the knowledge and my support. The work you must do yourself.

right on, do you include any of the coding needed to support some of this work? or will they need to invest some more money in that as well?

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WTF are talking about

I said sites desiged for SE's allow you the freedom to use whatever kind of content you want without restriction because of tgp/mgp or whatever RULES... if you want to use no content at all or just blown up pics of chick's ears you can do so without worrying about what some tgp/mgp owner thinks.

Question... are you publishing explicit material which may not have any support docs and saying this is down to some mythical tgp/mpg rules?? I never knew that tgp/mgp owners had much say in the writing of 2257 legislation :-)

Mmm.. What has SEO pages got to do with tgp rules?? It's the DOJ that may matter more than the rules of some tgp site.

It's early yet and shit will smooth and be clarified, but it's irrelevant whether pages are SEO one's or otherwise. If a server operates within US territory and/or the owner is a US citizen, - they are subject to the laws of the US.
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That's right... sites that are built for the SE's can have whatever content you want - or no content at all - in fact most SE style sites have no content at all - you can use nothing but text if you want.

Regardless of what the fallout of the 2257 laws are - those with no published content to worry about will be safe with no worries.

Don't wait until things get so saturated... learn everything there is to know about seo and how to make money with adult in the search engines and you will be one step ahead and safe from prosecution.

IF you don't already know how to get top ten rankings in competitive keywords in Google and Yahoo it DOESN'T MAKE SENSE NOT LEARN SEO.

I teach people on a consulting level everything they need to know about SEO and how to make money targetting adult keywords.

Protect yourself and diversify - my rates are peanuts compared to the money you can make and can you really put a price on protecting your freedom/safety?

Sleep easy at night and still make $$$ in adult - learn seo today.

I only charge $1000 one time fee to teach you or your staff and I am available on an ongoing basis for support/answering questions/proofing work.

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Ok here's my view:

You cannot claim to teach a person everything there is too know about seo nor could you ever teach some the full fundamentals of seo.

seo is a constant evolving battleground. what may win you a few keywords one week might lose you the keywords the next! Algorthyms changed and can change drastically, noone can guarentee you success in seo
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Question... are you publishing explicit material which may not have any support docs and saying this is down to some mythical tgp/mpg rules?? I never knew that tgp/mgp owners had much say in the writing of 2257 legislation :-)

Mmm.. What has SEO pages got to do with tgp rules?? It's the DOJ that may matter more than the rules of some tgp site.

It's early yet and shit will smooth and be clarified, but it's irrelevant whether pages are SEO one's or otherwise. If a server operates within US territory and/or the owner is a US citizen, - they are subject to the laws of the US.
again wtf are you talking about

My point is if you are submitting galleries to tgps and mgps then you can't take down your pics because they are explicit... if you want traffic from tgps/mgps you have to use explicit images. You have to comply with tgp/mgp/free site rules... galleries tend to involve having images lol.

If you own sites built strictly for SE's you can do whatever the fuck you want to them - they can be 100% text if you want - thats my point - you aren't going to lose your search engine rankings because you remove images or don't use images at all.

I can't believe I have had to explain this several times now lol
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Ok here's my view:

You cannot claim to teach a person everything there is too know about seo nor could you ever teach some the full fundamentals of seo.

seo is a constant evolving battleground. what may win you a few keywords one week might lose you the keywords the next! Algorthyms changed and can change drastically, noone can guarentee you success in seo

Totally agree radical!

I've been doing this stuff for ... 10 years almost, and no way can I claim *anything* to do with search engines - it is a constantly evolving process with plenty outside factors creeping in.
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Ok here's my view:

You cannot claim to teach a person everything there is too know about seo nor could you ever teach some the full fundamentals of seo.

seo is a constant evolving battleground. what may win you a few keywords one week might lose you the keywords the next! Algorthyms changed and can change drastically, noone can guarentee you success in seo
Ok let me rephrase:
I can teach you everything you need to know to make a lot of money with the search engines.

Part of my service includes ongoing support from me... IFFFFFFFFFFF something SOOOOOOOOOOOO significant was to happen with the algos I would figure it out then pass that info along to all my clients I have taught.

Also the fundamental ways the SE's rank pages hasnt changed that much in years... thats why I have had clients top spots for YEARS NOW.

If you'd much rather try your luck with 2257 be my guest.

It really doesn't make sense not to have me teach you unless you already have top listings.
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Ok here's my view:

...noone can guarentee you success in seo

agree with you, but if he's teaching the fundamental ways of viewing SEO you can take that info and run with it even when shit changes...


However, if a person is that inclined to be in the game, then they probably have already been digging and studying and have an idea of what to start doing...the point is DOING, throw enough spaghetti on the wall and something is gonna stick....when you see what sticks, throw more of THAT
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again wtf are you talking about

My point is if you are submitting galleries to tgps and mgps then you can't take down your pics because they are explicit... if you want traffic from tgps/mgps you have to use explicit images. You have to comply with tgp/mgp/free site rules... galleries tend to involve having images lol.

If you own sites built strictly for SE's you can do whatever the fuck you want to them - they can be 100% text if you want - thats my point - you aren't going to lose your search engine rankings because you remove images or don't use images at all.

I can't believe I have had to explain this several times now lol

OK... Can you stand up front and explain this to a judge? :-) I doubt he'll be impressed much when you say "you can't take down your pics because they are explicit... " - he'll take em down for you if they don't comply with the law.

Tho.. I do get the chance that there may not be much traffic lost in se rankings by not having pics.
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Wow...this has my vote for most frustrating thread of the day. Granted, jojojo didn't explain the "explicit image" issues very well...but still, are the rest of you that daft that you really couldn't understand what he was "trying" to say.
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agree with you, but if he's teaching the fundamental ways of viewing SEO you can take that info and run with it even when shit changes...


However, if a person is that inclined to be in the game, then they probably have already been digging and studying and have an idea of what to start doing...the point is DOING, throw enough spaghetti on the wall and something is gonna stick....when you see what sticks, throw more of THAT
sweeeet a semi-positive post - thanks Jimmy...

Yes you are right - most webmasters have a vague idea from all the info they read on the net... just as most of the clients I have taught this week did... but they really didn't know where or how to begin... so on top of learning WHAT WORKS and what to avoid they are also given a plan of attack - build this do this build this etc etc etc...

again the info is out there and i'm sure most people have read a lot of it but they don't have any success in the SE's now.

There is a lot of trial and error involved in SEO... it usually takes 60-90 dys to see ANY kind of decent activity in the SE's... how many months and hours do YOU have to test ideas you have pieced together from various sources dated and outdated??

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agree with you, but if he's teaching the fundamental ways of viewing SEO you can take that info and run with it even when shit changes...


However, if a person is that inclined to be in the game, then they probably have already been digging and studying and have an idea of what to start doing...the point is DOING, throw enough spaghetti on the wall and something is gonna stick....when you see what sticks, throw more of THAT
Yep I agree with you to a certain point, but anyone if they had sense could really spend a few hours digging around and studying abit rather than forking out $1000, hell there's even tools you can use for $200, which will put you on your way, not necessarily get youa top ranking but put you on the right path!
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OK... Can you stand up front and explain this to a judge? :-) I doubt he'll be impressed much when you say "you can't take down your pics because they are explicit... " - he'll take em down for you if they don't comply with the law.

Tho.. I do get the chance that there may not be much traffic lost in se rankings by not having pics.
??? I meant you can't take down your pics because they are explicit and thats what tgps/mgps want from you... you can't just email all the mgps you submit to and say "I've removed all the explicit content from my galleries... now its nothing but non explicit ads to the paysite"
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I got a nice ebook course that normally sells for $199.95 - but got a special offer where you save $190... just $9.95! It's even got a special two page section on Google :-)
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Yep I agree with you to a certain point, but anyone if they had sense could really spend a few hours digging around and studying abit rather than forking out $1000, hell there's even tools you can use for $200, which will put you on your way, not necessarily get youa top ranking but put you on the right path!
I'm sure most people have spent some hours doing this and yet they don't have top ten rankings or are making good money from the SE's... most of my new clients had done a fair share of reading before they ever talked to me and none of them were doing well or really had a clue where to begin to build something that they can see results from within 60-90 days.

I think at this point there is enough information on the web about the adult business that everything has been explained and discussed... yet there are still people making less than $2k/mth in this business... why is that? why isnt everyone making $30,000/mth?

A whole bunch of generic information is not enough to be successful.
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Wow...this has my vote for most frustrating thread of the day. Granted, jojojo didn't explain the "explicit image" issues very well...but still, are the rest of you that daft that you really couldn't understand what he was "trying" to say.

amen to that Chimmy
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Wow...this has my vote for most frustrating thread of the day. Granted, jojojo didn't explain the "explicit image" issues very well...but still, are the rest of you that daft that you really couldn't understand what he was "trying" to say.
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JoJo should explain how SE's themselves will evade the 2257 regs... that would be far more interesting.
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