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Old 05-27-2005, 03:01 PM   #1
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Dombuyer and scamming?

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I'm going to say one more thing and put this to bed:

There are lots of people both supporting me and slagging me. Thanks to those who have properly condemned AGA as the welcher he is.

As for Slavik, more and more people seem content to defend him, and that's admirable and understandable. Slavik has to me, in the past, and through lots of different deals, been a very good guy. I don't know him personally, but only know him through the deals we've done.

I'd also like to point out that some time ago, when I felt that Slavik owed me a commission on a large-ish deal, he immediately wired the money and solidified my respect for him.

Which is why this current situation had me so upset, and perhaps emotional. There's very little that anyone can teach me about the domain game at this point in my career, when it comes to the psychology and pursuit of good names. Most of all, I see it as a GAME, one in which emotion has little part., and these days, I rarely let emotion enter into any deal or dealing.

Scammers are scammers. Why would I care why they scam or spend my precious time hand-wringing over them or lost deals.

But we all have weak spots, and this particular deal, with a scammer on one side doing a backdoor deal with a decent but very crafty guy on the left...well, this one got me emotional.

More than anything else, it left me in shock. I really do think that Salvik snookered me. I cannot say for certain that he knew about my deal with AGA, but I suspect he did know. However, once he DID know about it, his explanation and ultimate shirking of me sealed my anger.

Many of you don't seem to realize that without escrow.com having a trap door out (which i did not know about after millions of dollars worth of deals), I would have sued AGA for the name, and effectively had the name returned to me from Slavik. It wouldn't be personal, it would be business.

In this instance, I also made the mistake of thinking that Slavik is like me: that he would see that it was me knocking, check with AGA that yes, there was an escrow in process, and no, I had not violated any terms of the escrow, and utimately make a deal with me so that everyone would win.

The fact that he paddled with me, humored me, and then ignored me, made very angry and disappointed. It's not what I would do.

I guess I expected more from this guy. It's not how I would have handled it. I look for a win-win to make people happy.

One more thing: All you armchair domainers who keep saying I was trying to steal the name @25k:

First off, get a life. My job is to get names cheap.

Second of all, Chris Chena sold three identical typos of download(s) for $60k each some months back. I consulted Chris very closely on AGA's name, and we compared traffic and conversions to the names he sold, and we came up with a max purchase price of:

$40k. That means the absolute highest we would ever pay for that name would be $40k. Others with a brain would value it similarly. So my buy price was creeping into the range of what most domainers would pay.

But of course, that's not the point

Bottom line is that all you guys who are busy defending Slavik and talking about how I have no right to implicate him in all this mess:

You're so wrong, and his brilliance is that you still don't understand why.

But I do. And our relationship won't be the same, which is too bad.

Back to business. I just picked up a couple of great names. Who want's em?
I say..

Stop whining and grow up crybaby.. get your Tax avoiding Antigua corp to sue me if you think that you have been hard done by.

Subject to a quick consultation.. your "scamming" comment above may bite you in the ass once I get past your P.O. boxes etc
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For us not totally up to date, and to lazy to look.
What domain are we talking about here?
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AGA, Antigua's corp???

hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Is this guy an American? IRS is very interested in Antigua Corps....
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AGA, Antigua's corp???

hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Is this guy an American? IRS is very interested in Antigua Corps....
According to Whois yes!

Im busy getting together a list of his domains etc.. hes very secretive but you see I have many tools at my disposal!

Do you remember the nuclear bomb? lol
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His corp has 11595 domain names.. I`m about half way thru the list (Theres some real crap there.. must be leftovers from his more amateur days)
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Haha, I enjoy this drama unfolding. And the funniest part is people saying "deal is a deal", trying to act all business and serious, hahaha. Seriously, Dombuyer, I'm sure you can fool all these college kids here into thinking you're big time, but if you don't see the value of written contract, then you're just a fucking moron who has no clue.

And you can have you're fans come on here bitch all they want (KRL, who btw is one poor fucker who likes to act big time and Baddog, atleast I think that's the guys nick, etc...).

Fuck I hate unsuccessful people.
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Serge, Didnt Meat live in Antigua for a couple of years? Did them Antiguan laywer guys he knew ever get into any position of power over there?

I know a few guys that got thier bank accounts and shit frozen because of links with porn. that sucks doesnt it
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are you trying to ruin his biz ?
i don't know him personally and never did any biz with Dombuyer, but if you going to ruin someone's biz via reporting to IRS or inform bank - you should think not even twice, but 8 times, cause we're talking about ruin a whole biz..
May be i missunterstood you, so please don't get my words wrong.
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are you trying to ruin his biz ?
i don't know him personally and never did any biz with Dombuyer, but if you going to ruin someone's biz via reporting to IRS or inform bank - you should think not even twice, but 8 times, cause we're talking about ruin a whole biz..
May be i missunterstood you, so please don't get my words wrong.
Dom buyer is a Prick that has no problem calling people scammers.. When there was obviously no scam.

He is obviously not as good as he thinks at buying / selling domain names..

He is like a vulture hovering over all the newbs here looking to buy and sell domains the same day to make a huge profit.

I couldn`t do that.. and you know what.. Slavik couldnt either
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Dombuyer picks up 2nd class domains from people who don't know any better and then comes on GFY trying to act like he's Webfather. Show me one really high end domain that he owns, and I'll shut the fuck up. He's a nobody, just like KRL and all the other domain wannabes here.
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Serge, Didnt Meat live in Antigua for a couple of years? Did them Antiguan laywer guys he knew ever get into any position of power over there?

I know a few guys that got thier bank accounts and shit frozen because of links with porn. that sucks doesnt it
AGA,
I know that lawyer...he posts on Rober Parker Wine board...
I spoke with him on that board about Meat, wine and US Military base on Antigua and the behind the scenes dealing Antigua Government does with USA....
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Dombuyer, I own a 2 letter .com domain. What's you offer? There are like 10-20 of them in the open market right now, the rest are taken by big corps.
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I read so many sig spots I cant remember what the post was about.....

Oh well...Was it something about Amp?
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So when you are done trying to confuse the issue, is your word worth anything or not?
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Haha, I enjoy this drama unfolding. And the funniest part is people saying "deal is a deal", trying to act all business and serious, hahaha. Seriously, Dombuyer, I'm sure you can fool all these college kids here into thinking you're big time, but if you don't see the value of written contract, then you're just a fucking moron who has no clue.

And you can have you're fans come on here bitch all they want (KRL, who btw is one poor fucker who likes to act big time and Baddog, atleast I think that's the guys nick, etc...).

Fuck I hate unsuccessful people.
Yo lonshanks, who in the fuck are you?

Fact is, a deal IS a deal where I come from. HOWEVER, before you jump my shit and start cocking back like I know you want to, listen up. I agree with you on one point.... If it had of been me, and someone told me on ICQ "Yes, it's a deal".... my next response would be "Great, faxing the contract now".

You are right 100% on that point. Get it in writing, whether it's a few hundred bucks or a few hundred thousand, makes no diffence. Those who don't understand that, try....oh, try buying $5k worth of advertising from CJ Traffic some time. After the details are nailed down I guarantee you the very next thing that will happen is that a contract will be sent to you to sign. No exceptions.

Okay, carry on...
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Needed to get at least one more in....before you remeber what the post was about
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So when you are done trying to confuse the issue, is your word worth anything or not?
My word is worth everything to my friends.. and nothing to people trying to screw me
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Z over at CJTraffic has a contract in your hand before you even know the deal is done..Thats the way you do biz and thats the way you close...
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Yo lonshanks, who in the fuck are you?

Fact is, a deal IS a deal where I come from. HOWEVER, before you jump my shit and start cocking back like I know you want to, listen up. I agree with you on one point.... If it had of been me, and someone told me on ICQ "Yes, it's a deal".... my next response would be "Great, faxing the contract now".

You are right 100% on that point. Get it in writing, whether it's a few hundred bucks or a few hundred thousand, makes no diffence. Those who don't understand that, try....oh, try buying $5k worth of advertising from CJ Traffic some time. After the details are nailed down I guarantee you the very next thing that will happen is that a contract will be sent to you to sign. No exceptions.

Okay, carry on...
Does that mean you hate me or love me? Casue I sense both love and hate:-(
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Okay, I'll give MY WORD, right here on this board. If CDSmith tells me that he loves me - I'm gonna eat my shorts. But, please remember, this is not a contractual promise, this is a GFY escrow promise. Who wants to be intermediate?
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Interesting eh?.... how I can take a pot shot at someone and still leave them with the feeling that they were right in part.

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Old 05-27-2005, 04:30 PM   #49
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CDSmith, you're a smart guy. But, I sense you would love me more if I had a higher post count. Please don't tell me you're that shallow. I honestly thought we had a future together.
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:31 PM   #50
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50 Vulture domain buyers!
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