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Old 05-26-2005, 09:47 AM   #1
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If Kerry Had Won Does Anybody Think These New 2257 Regs Would Have Happened?

no way - whoever the new Attorney General would have been would have put 2257 on the back burner. none of this would be happening.
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:48 AM   #2
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why even think about it
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:51 AM   #3
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wow.... you really do live in a dream land don't you? Try watching c-span, or better yet, read "The congressional report" (which is a straight trasncription of all discussions on the floor of the house and senate).

This stuff is coming from BOTH sides, much as you would like to think otherwise. This was going to happen either way.

I know you don't want to believe it, but look up who is spnsoring and co-sponsoring state and federal legistlation regarding internet porn
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:54 AM   #4
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wow.... you really do live in a dream land don't you? Try watching c-span, or better yet, read "The congressional report" (which is a straight trasncription of all discussions on the floor of the house and senate).

This stuff is coming from BOTH sides, much as you would like to think otherwise. This was going to happen either way.

I know you don't want to believe it, but look up who is spnsoring and co-sponsoring state and federal legistlation regarding internet porn
these 2257 changes came from a Republican Attorney General and will come into law under another Republican Attorney General.

don't be vague - if you have Democrat initiatives as onerous as these changes which are an obvious attempt to do an end around getting impossible obscenity convictions against people then please post them here.
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:55 AM   #5
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who cares who is in charge..the whole usa is governed by religious zealots.

they went after the mags, the theatres etc...this is just our turn
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:55 AM   #6
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If if if if if. If I knew what I know now, I would have blablabla
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Yes it would have.
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:59 AM   #9
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like one or two people before have said, you have to consider that these congressmen and women have been getting the SAME VOLUMES of explicit in your face spam for years that everyone else has, how long do you honestly think they were going to sit back and let it continue?
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:59 AM   #10
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these 2257 changes came from a Republican Attorney General and will come into law under another Republican Attorney General.

don't be vague - if you have Democrat initiatives as onerous as these changes which are an obvious attempt to do an end around getting impossible obscenity convictions against people then please post them here.
I am actually working....I just check in once in a while,and I don't have time to pull it all out in the middle of the day, but if you look at the statements of both parties during discussions, commitees, etc.... it is clear that this type of thing would be going on regardless, sponsored by WHATEVER party had power.

There is just too much grass roots pressure, and politicians want to get votes and keep votes, so they tend to do what their constituancies want.
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Yeah, the 2257 regs were up for changes for a very long time... it might not have happened right now with Kerry but it still would have happened.
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Old 05-26-2005, 10:04 AM   #12
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The only one who did not appoint was the Virgin General, Janet Reno.

After that, both parties were under too much pressure and had to enact and legislate and enforce.

It would not have made any difference had Kerry been elected. The slope was already slipping.
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Old 05-26-2005, 10:09 AM   #13
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wow.... you really do live in a dream land don't you? Try watching c-span, or better yet, read "The congressional report" (which is a straight trasncription of all discussions on the floor of the house and senate).

This stuff is coming from BOTH sides, much as you would like to think otherwise. This was going to happen either way.

I know you don't want to believe it, but look up who is spnsoring and co-sponsoring state and federal legistlation regarding internet porn
they don't have time 2 do this.

but you are right.
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like one or two people before have said, you have to consider that these congressmen and women have been getting the SAME VOLUMES of explicit in your face spam for years that everyone else has, how long do you honestly think they were going to sit back and let it continue?
Just tell'em to hit the delete key.

complain about a spammer on this board and this is the standard answer, spammers come out of the wood work
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i think it would have been shuffled to the middle of the pile of things to do when the next Attorney General got in office.
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i think it would have been shuffled to the middle of the pile of things to do when the next Attorney General got in office.
I thought it was going to the back burner Like it wasn't going to happen sooner or later
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no way - whoever the new Attorney General would have been would have put 2257 on the back burner. none of this would be happening.
Maybe if people on GFY post 6 or 7 hundred more threads about it, then it will go away. Kinda like winning the lotto.

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