Oh my God!!!!
GatorB, a known liberal, tree hugger, left wing Democrat lover; is using a retort that is usually used by "retarded republican idiots" (or so he used to say a few days ago)!!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

On the other hand and on a more serious note; it seems that most non-US webmaster who posted in this thread are not fully aware of the repercusions of the new 2257 rules. There is a simple concept in academia known as "Causes and Effects". We all know that most sponsors are US based, I would say around 70 to 80% at least. What do you think will happen if a majority of sponsors ceased to accept webmasters outside of the US?
The logical answer would be to believe that most non-US webmasters would then sign up and promote non-US sponsors. But would those sponsors be able to fill the shoes of the US sponsors?

Hey but thanks for saving our asses from the Germans and for letting us gobble up your culture. :thumbsup


:1orglaugh

When there are about 1000 post from Euros stating 2257 will have ZERO effect on them and putting down anyone that dares to question that then I believe my post was proper. It's also called an ATTENTION GETTER. Newspapers and Magazines, TV do it all the time.

That's real mature.

All this drama is making me hungry.

Stop attacking Gatorb everybody!! hes trying to help us poor Europeans here!!

Not liberal MORON. I have NEVER been a Democrat. I have been a Republican before in my life. Shows how much you know. Only an idiot thinks there HAS to be only 2 politcal parties.

He's trying to save us from the commies and nazis again

Should I post all of your "Save the grasshoppers" pearls here :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yes, it has. Turn on MTV.

*slaps forehead*

Doh

You know I have better things to do than waste time dealing with you. God you're a tool. WTF? You have SERIOUS issues to start shit for ZERO reason. I'm sure the other Americans on this baord appreciate the hatred you and other non-Americans have for us. I mean since as you stated EVERY American is a stupid redneck.

he is typical US - thinking that his coiunrty saved the world from WWII and also being the policemen of the world today.
Its not his fault its the problem of US education system - they simply think that they are the only 1 nation in the world - they think this way because they were told to think (we say this way so go this way - US freedome)

DUDE!!!! You're the one who starts "Let's bash America" threads day in and day out, and now YOU'RE A LITTLE CRY BABY BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING A DOSE OF YOUR MEDECINE :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :321GFY

and what would be the impact on the US sponsors business if they would suddenly stop accepting traffic that comes from anyone who lives outside the US ?

a sponsor getting 1000 joins daily would suddenly get 500, dont you think it would be a HUGE problem for them?

Excessive consumption of Fat Sugar and Salt = hyperactivity irrational thinking and antisocial behaviour.

yeah my job is to pump as much money out of the american economy into the european economy, im some sorta robin hood
:321GFY

Sure. I've never said that. lt's see I'm liberal. Ok I'm for the total abolition of Social Security. Go ask a REAL liberal about that. I believe my opinion on that topic is in fact to the right of Pat Buchanon. Affirmitive Action, Immigration, parental consent on abortion my opinions on these would be considered VERY conservative.

I was referring to surfers buying memberships

+ bad education system
+ terrible litigation laws
+ sexual deviances

But c'mon, we're not here to bash.

They would have to choose the lesser of two evils.
Bubba as a cellmate or less revenues :2 cents:
It would be a HUGE problem for everyone, not just the non-US webmaster, but also the US sponsor and the content producer and the hosting company and the billing processor and anyone who benefits in that business relationship

Look there are some idiots in every nation so I think there is no need to offense somebody just cause he is US.
But true is that your way of thinking is unacceptable for the rest of the world sometimes.
I have lot of good friends in US and I feel no hate.Anyway sometimes you are really funny group of people who established some federation few years ago and acting like "we are the masters of the world and the rest of planet is nothing" - and pls tell me I'm wrong - you must know that man.

peace ok :pimp

When have I ever done that? And I'm not crying. Oh is my web cam on and everyone can see me? Oh wait I don't have one. Where do you get this sixth sense to sense emotion over the internet? You could make MILLIONS with that talent. I mean that's right up ther with the guy that can talk to the dead.

How will surfers buying memberships know that they are buying a membership from a non-US paysite?

And how does a surfer know which sites are owned by Americans and which are owned by non-Americans?

Like I said, do you really think a surfer with a hard cock gives a flying fuck?

They will know what processor they are using which is what I stated earlier when I said "offshore processor."

Just because my "President" is an asshole. Don't take it out on us. WE have to deal with his stupid decisions more than you. Hell I never call Bush the "President" I never recognized him as one ever since his brother rigged the first one. I consider my country to be under a coup d'etat until Jan 20, 2009.

the way you write and usage of BIG LETTERS express yourself ...

stop whining

They do all the time...which is why they have become more aware and cancel memberships almost immediately after signing up so they don't get jacked on some rebill like they've either experienced before, or heard about before.

Trust has been an issue in this industry and the internet regardless of who is processing.

Did it ever occur to you that Bubba from Alabama will call Bubba's Bank to dispute the charge that appears on his credit card statement when he sees "gaybears.com - Budapest - Hungary"
And how do you think Bubba's Bank will deal with disputed charges to foreign merchants?
And that is just one effect...

understood , accepted :thumbsup

2257 has NOTHING to do with surfers. And no they don't care. Hell they'd click the 2257 link thinking there's more free porn somewhere.

hey man
you haven't answered me
what is your idea of loosing US customers in content biz - seriously
what is impossible from my side to fullfill US 2257 needs for US customers

Unless the name of the processor was "Eurobilling" or something that made it obvious that it wasn't American, I don't think any surfer would figure it out that it was a non-American processor.

I sure am glad someone else is seeing the possible ramifications of all this...LOL

The sky has not fallen yet, and it may not fall completely but it sure will rain on some...LOL

Most credit card statement shows Name,City,Country

:1orglaugh ... so true :thumbsup

Yeah right. Ummmm never work for law enforcement. Your intuition skills suck. So when some hot 18 year old that talks dirty to is is really a hot 18 year old that wants to fuck you and not some 53 year old MAN yanking your chain?

They will when they see the name of the bank that their card is being charged to.

None of my credit card statements show the city or country of the merchant. They just show the merchant name and the amount I was billed for.

You and eros arguments over banks is boring.

Well, like most Americans I got a shitload of credit cards and so does my wife, and they all show that information. And so does any purchases made with our check cards :2 cents:

This is the worst thread since 1964.

you are right ! But please don´t tell me you are not emotional when you reply the way you do .

I've never once seen the name of the merchants bank on a statement. I see the name of the merchant. Like "Wal-Mart" or "7-Eleven"

Because there are still questions as to what constitutes a valid ID for some people...and it also has to do with a trust issue.

If it were my company, and I was buying content..which I have bought from you and Paul Markham in the past I would want to know that with 100% certainty that the guy who sold it to me is 100% compliant..you may very well be and I'm sure you are..however you are elsewhere, outside the arm of the US law that I HAVE to abide by..you don't. Buying from an American content provider would at least ensure in my mind that it is in his best interest to maintain impeccable records or risk jail time.

This just ruined the entire thread. :upsidedow

When I purchase things on the internet I often see what bank and the merchant name to expect to see on my statement.

That's kind of retarded isn't it? Actually more than anything I am not very tactful and appearantly not vey good at expressing myself in an enviroment where emotions, visions and sound are taken out of the equation.

I agree statement info like that would cause problems but it?s usually more discrete. Besides bubba loves to jerk off in my site so much he wouldn?t dare dispute the transaction. :)

yes you are right - its the question of trust.But its nothing new for me - I have always to deal with the fact that US people don't trust anybody outside US too much - specialy former Soviet union satelites.
Anyway mostly its true that I drive better car , have larger house , make more money and at VERY FIRST I do far more honest biz then the most of those guys saying that they can't trust us just cause we are living in this location.
so once more - nothing new for me , still the same situation
thnx for input bro :pimp