or they stop sending their traffic to us based sponsors, and instead send it to non-us based sponsors.

I'm sure the sponsors out there appreciate that comment. :winkwink:

I don't think anyone is here saying that we do..at least I am not.

However what I am saying is that US Sponsors will control what they can and be leary of what they cannot so that could very well start forcing some to take actions that they would never have considered before the new regs.

Either way, people need to wake up, grow up and realize that we are all B2B partners, colleagues whatever...no man is an island in this biz.
And by that I mean we all have to work together. Sponsors need your * in the collective sense* traffic, you need the sponsors content and program to accept sales from your traffic..if one is not around to provide for the other then the whole relationship gets out of whack...get my drift?

So it's in your best interest to work with your favorite US Sponsors so they'll continue to be around...because in the end...not all sponsors actually need your traffic...inhouse traffic of course has always been around but I personally know of many companies who have been focusing on pulling away from the affiliate model which will affect a large portion of this industry worldwide.

As someone else posted on another thread the affiliate model will have to change, it's a fact...get used to it...and instead of non-us webmasters sitting back laughing and thinking this does not affect you look a bit deeper and realise how it could very well effect you..because it will to some degree....it's simple common sense.

:evil-laug

There we go. True colors.

No see the Euros don't have to follow any laws or any sponsors TOSes. They just do whatever the fuck they like and there's nothing anyone anywhere can do about it.

At least that's the gist I get from their posts.

WTF does that mean? YOU are the ones hating. Someone tries to help you and your attitude is pure shit. If it weren't for people like my grandfather who stormed the beaches at Normandy on D-Day you'd be under Nazi or Commie rule right now.

Yep and you see where this is heading?

This could be a huge shake up for a lot of businesses, small, medium and large and there will be a domino effect down the b2b chain.

For example let's say a medium sized american sponsor spent $1,000's on content shot in Eastern Europe and now this content is no good.

Well guess what?

You think he's gonna start over?

Nope. He's not getting as much traffic anymore so how does this affect the industry economy as a whole?

The photographer in Eastern Europe loses a valuable client. Models don't get as much work, designers hired to build creatives are no longer needed, processor loses a client, traffic brokers lose sales, affiliates lose sponsor etc etc.

So are you guys maybe finally starting to see how this could very well play out? LOL

I hate to sound like the doom and gloom sky is falling kind of person, but this will have an affect on this biz.

lol you really belive in that :helpme :1orglaugh

Look at the rule YOU are under. :thumbsup

STFU will you...gezzz the amount of bs you said in this thread is scary

I'm sure it will for some...you can bet on that.

I voted in 2000 and 2004 and neither time did I vote for Bush. WTF else was I suppose to do? I can't help it if my country has 60 million bible thumping idiots in it.

Back to History classes, next you going to say that US did all the job rigth :1orglaugh

make me.

And guess who will endup losing, the affiliate or the program...?

The times of a few dozen affiliate programs to promote are long long gone :2 cents:

Both lose..watch the domino effect.
Keep reading.

No the French helped a lot. :1orglaugh You know with the surendering to the Nazi's in 30 minutes and all. Quite the fighters they are. Just ask the Germans.

Oh god, here we go.... :1orglaugh

Fucking idiot.

I feel sorry for you.

Now, what would you do if the rest of the world invaded U.S.A. and forced a 'regime change'? Which side would you stand on?

Looks like you also need some geography lessons...Europe = germany and france? shiiitt :1orglaugh :1orglaugh what about the rest?

BTW if some OUTCAST ENGLISH-MAN didn't left England (you know where England is rigth?) you prolly wouldn't exist... :thumbsup

:1orglaugh

well now the thread has gone to the typical my country is better than your country route...oh well.

You need a history lesson. See there was this thing called WWII about 60 years ago.

I think its not anyway I agree that US should pay for being a part of such a stupid society.
no offense US - I have lot of friends in US
ok at least all voting for this stupid goverment should pay for that... :pimp

Basicly I can't see any problem.
IF US got any problem so be it - there is a lot of good sponsors coming from Euro or offhsore , the same for hosting , billing and I don't know what kind of services.If you want to cooperate with US then just follow their rule - if not then just follow your rules.Thats it :pimp

Well don't blame me blame the defensive Euros.

http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~tdp/images/osterich.jpg

You're right. And all we're doing is comparing who lives on a nicer pile of dirt.

Humans are a waste of time.

You are the one that needs geography and history lessons boy...

Maybe I should ad to that "Make no mistake" :1orglaugh

See here is exactly where the short sightedness really comes into play...
Nyadahl...your content will become worthless for American based affiliates and sponsors if the new 2257 regs come into play will it not?

so how many customers will you lose?

Gee someone talking logically. Thanks. :1orglaugh

The only way to go with Americans.

If they cant get their right then the next thing to do is act like a typical redneck idiot American and brag about your country.....

From what I can tell, 2257 will mostly hurt American affiliate programs and American affiliates, American hosting, and also maybe some non-American content providers.

Non-American affiliate programs and hosting companies might actually benefit from 2257 due to traffic shifting away from the American affiliate programs.

Yup, read and learn redneck.

Don't waste your time...

And look who started that... an American, as usual.

OK EXACTLY and I mean in DETAIL, WTF is your problem with me? Talk like an ADULT or get the fuck of MY thread.

2 questions right - ok
1 - no it will not
2- zero

Nope. WRONG. Go back and READ. Post PROOF.

Quite possible..but knowing mom and pop American who is already afraid to do biz on the "interweb" I wonder how much of that traffic coming from America will be happy to do business with an offshore company, or with someone based out of Eastern Europe.

Lets go back to the first post shall we.


Ok Euros what about this?

So you don't have to abide huh? This is from 2 sponsors TOS and this was BEFORE these new regs passed.


Hardly a statement written to stimulate level headed discussion and debate.

For 20 seconds I will reduce to this level

Ok Americans what about this

Shove 2257 where the sun don?t shine ? huh huh huh huh huh huh ? bubble gum whine.

LOL are you sure about that? Because I hear different and I trust my source 100%.

Exactly?

That you are a retarded American.

Is that enough detail?

No American has bragged about ANYTHING here. It's YOU that have put America and Americans down. Funny how you hate us but boy you'll take money form American sponsors not to mention you gobble up our culture, but you hate us so.

Now remind me what that has to do with anything?

No no, you got it wrong. This friendly American is trying to help us. Cant you see that?

talkking seriously now - no bulshiting or offense ok
tell me whats on your mind and what is impossible to do from my side to fullfill 2257 for US customers

Just what I expected out of you. Thanks for living down to my lowered expectations of you.

I wasn't thinking about "mom and pop American", I was thinking about all the non-Americans that currently host in the US and send traffic to US sponsors. They have good reason to stop doing business with US companies and instead send their money to non-US businesses instead. That would hurt American businesses.

Do you really think that someone with one hand on their stiff cock and another on their credit card really gives a shit?

I dont hate America/Americans. I just hate American idiots like you which your country has a lot unfortunatly.

What culture are you talking about btw...does America have a culture?