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BRISK · 05-26-2005, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

to get my point clear, if you are an European with a 500 uniques per day thumbs tgp not complying with some bullshit 2257 rules, then believe me, noone's gona notice you, the feds wont care about you, they wont even know that you exist

and if you're a 400k thumb tgp, then you also dont have to worry about this bullshit, 'cause when you have huge traffic and can send many joins, the sponsors will suck your dick and take your traffic anyway

or they stop sending their traffic to us based sponsors, and instead send it to non-us based sponsors.

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

the sponsors will suck your dick

I'm sure the sponsors out there appreciate that comment.

eroswebmaster · 05-26-2005, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

man, aren't you the one who is always 'anti Bush'?

so if you're anti-Bush then you should realise that the America does not and shouldbt be controlling the whole world

I don't think anyone is here saying that we do..at least I am not.

However what I am saying is that US Sponsors will control what they can and be leary of what they cannot so that could very well start forcing some to take actions that they would never have considered before the new regs.

Either way, people need to wake up, grow up and realize that we are all B2B partners, colleagues whatever...no man is an island in this biz.
And by that I mean we all have to work together. Sponsors need your * in the collective sense* traffic, you need the sponsors content and program to accept sales from your traffic..if one is not around to provide for the other then the whole relationship gets out of whack...get my drift?

So it's in your best interest to work with your favorite US Sponsors so they'll continue to be around...because in the end...not all sponsors actually need your traffic...inhouse traffic of course has always been around but I personally know of many companies who have been focusing on pulling away from the affiliate model which will affect a large portion of this industry worldwide.

As someone else posted on another thread the affiliate model will have to change, it's a fact...get used to it...and instead of non-us webmasters sitting back laughing and thinking this does not affect you look a bit deeper and realise how it could very well effect you..because it will to some degree....it's simple common sense.

Adultlexicon · 05-26-2005, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Dear ARS,

please dont send Joe Citizen his check next week.

Cheers,

Feds.

who · 05-26-2005, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

OK. Now fuck off Euro trash.

There we go. True colors.

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

I don't think anyone is here saying that we do..at least I am not.

However what I am saying is that US Sponsors will control what they can and be leary of what they cannot so that could very well start forcing some to take actions that they would never have considered before the new regs.

No see the Euros don't have to follow any laws or any sponsors TOSes. They just do whatever the fuck they like and there's nothing anyone anywhere can do about it.

At least that's the gist I get from their posts.

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by .?.

There we go. True colors.

WTF does that mean? YOU are the ones hating. Someone tries to help you and your attitude is pure shit. If it weren't for people like my grandfather who stormed the beaches at Normandy on D-Day you'd be under Nazi or Commie rule right now.

eroswebmaster · 05-26-2005, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

or they stop sending their traffic to us based sponsors, and instead send it to non-us based sponsors.

Yep and you see where this is heading?

This could be a huge shake up for a lot of businesses, small, medium and large and there will be a domino effect down the b2b chain.

For example let's say a medium sized american sponsor spent $1,000's on content shot in Eastern Europe and now this content is no good.

Well guess what?

You think he's gonna start over?

Nope. He's not getting as much traffic anymore so how does this affect the industry economy as a whole?

The photographer in Eastern Europe loses a valuable client. Models don't get as much work, designers hired to build creatives are no longer needed, processor loses a client, traffic brokers lose sales, affiliates lose sponsor etc etc.

So are you guys maybe finally starting to see how this could very well play out? LOL

I hate to sound like the doom and gloom sky is falling kind of person, but this will have an affect on this biz.

Rui · 05-26-2005, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Could very well be the end of US based sponsors accepting non-us webmasters.

lol you really belive in that

who · 05-26-2005, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

WTF does that mean? YOU are the ones hating. Someone tries to help you and your attitude is pure shit. If it weren't for people like my grandfather who stormed the beaches at Normandy on D-Day you'd be under Nazi or Commie rule right now.

Look at the rule YOU are under.

Rui · 05-26-2005, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

No see the Euros don't have to follow any laws or any sponsors TOSes. They just do whatever the fuck they like and there's nothing anyone anywhere can do about it.

At least that's the gist I get from their posts.

STFU will you...gezzz the amount of bs you said in this thread is scary

eroswebmaster · 05-26-2005, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui

lol you really belive in that

I'm sure it will for some...you can bet on that.

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by .?.

Look at the rule YOU are under.

I voted in 2000 and 2004 and neither time did I vote for Bush. WTF else was I suppose to do? I can't help it if my country has 60 million bible thumping idiots in it.

Rui · 05-26-2005, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

WTF does that mean? YOU are the ones hating. Someone tries to help you and your attitude is pure shit. If it weren't for people like my grandfather who stormed the beaches at Normandy on D-Day you'd be under Nazi or Commie rule right now.

Back to History classes, next you going to say that US did all the job rigth

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui

STFU will you...gezzz the amount of bs you said in this thread is scary

make me.

Rui · 05-26-2005, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

I'm sure it will for some...you can bet on that.

And guess who will endup losing, the affiliate or the program...?

The times of a few dozen affiliate programs to promote are long long gone

eroswebmaster · 05-26-2005, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui

And guess who will endup losing, the affiliate or the program...?

The times of a few dozen affiliate programs to promote are long long gone

Both lose..watch the domino effect.
Keep reading.

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui

Back to History classes, next you going to say that US did all the job rigth

No the French helped a lot.

You know with the surendering to the Nazi's in 30 minutes and all. Quite the fighters they are. Just ask the Germans.

Dirty F · 05-26-2005, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

WTF does that mean? YOU are the ones hating. Someone tries to help you and your attitude is pure shit. If it weren't for people like my grandfather who stormed the beaches at Normandy on D-Day you'd be under Nazi or Commie rule right now.

Oh god, here we go....

Fucking idiot.

who · 05-26-2005, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I voted in 2000 and 2004 and neither time did I vote for Bush. WTF else was I suppose to do? I can't help it if my country has 60 million bible thumping idiots in it.

I feel sorry for you.

Now, what would you do if the rest of the world invaded U.S.A. and forced a 'regime change'? Which side would you stand on?

Rui · 05-26-2005, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

No the French helped a lot.

You know with the surendering to the Nazi's in 30 minutes and all. Quite the fighters they are. Just ask the Germans.

Looks like you also need some geography lessons...Europe = germany and france? shiiitt

what about the rest?

BTW if some OUTCAST ENGLISH-MAN didn't left England (you know where England is rigth?) you prolly wouldn't exist...

Joe Citizen · 05-26-2005, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

WTF does that mean? YOU are the ones hating. Someone tries to help you and your attitude is pure shit. If it weren't for people like my grandfather who stormed the beaches at Normandy on D-Day you'd be under Nazi or Commie rule right now.

eroswebmaster · 05-26-2005, 05:11 AM

well now the thread has gone to the typical my country is better than your country route...oh well.

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui

Looks like you also need some geography lessons...Europe = germany and france? shiiitt

You need a history lesson. See there was this thing called WWII about 60 years ago.

Nydahl · 05-26-2005, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PantieZ

this is the end of all US based hardcore TGPs ...
Europeans will make more money in this biz than ever

I think its not anyway I agree that US should pay for being a part of such a stupid society.
no offense US - I have lot of friends in US
ok at least all voting for this stupid goverment should pay for that...

Basicly I can't see any problem.
IF US got any problem so be it - there is a lot of good sponsors coming from Euro or offhsore , the same for hosting , billing and I don't know what kind of services.If you want to cooperate with US then just follow their rule - if not then just follow your rules.Thats it

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

well now the thread has gone to the typical my country is better than your country route...oh well.

Well don't blame me blame the defensive Euros.

who · 05-26-2005, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

well now the thread has gone to the typical my country is better than your country route...oh well.

You're right. And all we're doing is comparing who lives on a nicer pile of dirt.

Humans are a waste of time.

Rui · 05-26-2005, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

You need a history lesson. See there was this thing called WWII about 60 years ago.

You are the one that needs geography and history lessons boy...

Maybe I should ad to that "Make no mistake"

eroswebmaster · 05-26-2005, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nydahl

I think its not anyway I agree that US should pay for being a part of such a stupid society.
no offense US - I have lot of friends in US
ok at least all voting for this stupid goverment should pay for that...

Basicly I can't see any problem.
IF US got any problem so be it - there is a lot of good sponsors coming from Euro or offhsore , the same for hosting , billing and I don't know what kind of services.If you want to cooperate with US then just follow their rule - if not then just follow your rules.Thats it

See here is exactly where the short sightedness really comes into play...
Nyadahl...your content will become worthless for American based affiliates and sponsors if the new 2257 regs come into play will it not?

so how many customers will you lose?

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nydahl

If you want to cooperate with US then just follow their rule - if not then just follow your rules.Thats it

Gee someone talking logically. Thanks.

Dirty F · 05-26-2005, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

well now the thread has gone to the typical my country is better than your country route...oh well.

The only way to go with Americans.

If they cant get their right then the next thing to do is act like a typical redneck idiot American and brag about your country.....

BRISK · 05-26-2005, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Both lose..watch the domino effect.
Keep reading.

From what I can tell, 2257 will mostly hurt American affiliate programs and American affiliates, American hosting, and also maybe some non-American content providers.

Non-American affiliate programs and hosting companies might actually benefit from 2257 due to traffic shifting away from the American affiliate programs.

Dirty F · 05-26-2005, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Gee someone talking logically. Thanks.

Yup, read and learn redneck.

Rui · 05-26-2005, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

The only way to go with Americans.

If they cant get their right then the next thing to do is act like a typical redneck idiot American and brag about your country.....

Don't waste your time...

Joe Citizen · 05-26-2005, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

well now the thread has gone to the typical my country is better than your country route...oh well.

And look who started that... an American, as usual.

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Yup, read and learn redneck.

OK EXACTLY and I mean in DETAIL, WTF is your problem with me? Talk like an ADULT or get the fuck of MY thread.

Nydahl · 05-26-2005, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

See here is exactly where the short sightedness really comes into play...
Nyadahl...your content will become worthless for American based affiliates and sponsors if the new 2257 regs come into play will it not?

so how many customers will you lose?

2 questions right - ok
1 - no it will not
2- zero

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

And look who started that... an American, as usual.

Nope. WRONG. Go back and READ. Post PROOF.

eroswebmaster · 05-26-2005, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

From what I can tell, 2257 will mostly hurt American affiliate programs and American affiliates, American hosting, and also maybe some non-American content providers.

Non-American affiliate programs and hosting companies might actually benefit from 2257 due to traffic shifting away from the American affiliate programs.

Quite possible..but knowing mom and pop American who is already afraid to do biz on the "interweb" I wonder how much of that traffic coming from America will be happy to do business with an offshore company, or with someone based out of Eastern Europe.

Dopy · 05-26-2005, 05:17 AM

Lets go back to the first post shall we.

Ok Euros what about this?

So you don't have to abide huh? This is from 2 sponsors TOS and this was BEFORE these new regs passed.

Hardly a statement written to stimulate level headed discussion and debate.

For 20 seconds I will reduce to this level

Ok Americans what about this

Shove 2257 where the sun don?t shine ? huh huh huh huh huh huh ? bubble gum whine.

eroswebmaster · 05-26-2005, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nydahl

2 questions right - ok
1 - no it will not
2- zero

LOL are you sure about that? Because I hear different and I trust my source 100%.

Dirty F · 05-26-2005, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

OK EXACTLY and I mean in DETAIL, WTF is your problem with me? Talk like an ADULT or get the fuck of MY thread.

Exactly?

That you are a retarded American.

Is that enough detail?

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

The only way to go with Americans.

If they cant get their right then the next thing to do is act like a typical redneck idiot American and brag about your country.....

No American has bragged about ANYTHING here. It's YOU that have put America and Americans down. Funny how you hate us but boy you'll take money form American sponsors not to mention you gobble up our culture, but you hate us so.

Joe Citizen · 05-26-2005, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Nope. WRONG. Go back and READ. Post PROOF.

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If it weren't for people like my grandfather who stormed the beaches at Normandy on D-Day you'd be under Nazi or Commie rule right now.

Now remind me what that has to do with anything?

Dirty F · 05-26-2005, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dopy

Lets go back to the first post shall we.

Ok Euros what about this?

So you don't have to abide huh? This is from 2 sponsors TOS and this was BEFORE these new regs passed.

Hardly a statement written to stimulate level headed discussion and debate.

For 20 seconds I will reduce to this level

Ok Americans what about this

Shove 2257 where the sun don?t shine ? huh huh huh huh huh huh ? bubble gum whine.

No no, you got it wrong. This friendly American is trying to help us. Cant you see that?

Nydahl · 05-26-2005, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

LOL are you sure about that? Because I hear different and I trust my source 100%.

talkking seriously now - no bulshiting or offense ok
tell me whats on your mind and what is impossible to do from my side to fullfill 2257 for US customers

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Exactly?

That you are a retarded American.

Is that enough detail?

Just what I expected out of you. Thanks for living down to my lowered expectations of you.

BRISK · 05-26-2005, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Quite possible..but knowing mom and pop American who is already afraid to do biz on the "interweb" I wonder how much of that traffic coming from America will be happy to do business with an offshore company, or with someone based out of Eastern Europe.

I wasn't thinking about "mom and pop American", I was thinking about all the non-Americans that currently host in the US and send traffic to US sponsors. They have good reason to stop doing business with US companies and instead send their money to non-US businesses instead. That would hurt American businesses.

Joe Citizen · 05-26-2005, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Quite possible..but knowing mom and pop American who is already afraid to do biz on the "interweb" I wonder how much of that traffic coming from America will be happy to do business with an offshore company, or with someone based out of Eastern Europe.

Do you really think that someone with one hand on their stiff cock and another on their credit card really gives a shit?

Dirty F · 05-26-2005, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

No American has bragged about ANYTHING here. It's YOU that have put America and Americans down. Funny how you hate us but boy you'll take money form American sponsors not to mention you gobble up our culture, but you hate us so.

I dont hate America/Americans. I just hate American idiots like you which your country has a lot unfortunatly.

What culture are you talking about btw...does America have a culture?

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Dopy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Puerto Del Carmen, Lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 1,572	Lets go back to the first post shall we. Ok Euros what about this? So you don't have to abide huh? This is from 2 sponsors TOS and this was BEFORE these new regs passed. Hardly a statement written to stimulate level headed discussion and debate. For 20 seconds I will reduce to this level Ok Americans what about this Shove 2257 where the sun don?t shine ? huh huh huh huh huh huh ? bubble gum whine.