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After Shock Media · 05-25-2005, 08:10 PM

had to steal the 50

Turboface · 05-25-2005, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface

How ironic is it that David has questions about being sued over content?

51

MegaBondage · 05-25-2005, 08:12 PM

You sir are banned

After Shock Media · 05-25-2005, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaBondage

What next Henry.

You got me, I am Henry which also makes me a black male. Boy will my parents be surprised.

AaronM · 05-25-2005, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaBondage

Look in the new 2257 regs, that is the legal definition of "Acceptable Identifying Records"

You'll see the link for it on the 2257 page.

It says

"...required to produce acceptable identifying records as pursuant to § 1028 ..."

Read it Aaron, just for once, shut your pie hole, pretend you don't know it all, and read it.

It's in black and white, page shows as updated within the last 2 weeks.

Maybe the people that copied it verbatim know more about it then you do?

You're wrong. Period.

Now lets see......

Section 75.1 Definitions.

(b) Picture identification card means a document issued by the United States, a State government or a political subdivision thereof, or a United States territory, that bears the photograph and the name of the individual identified, and provides sufficient specific information that it can be accessed from the issuing authority, such as a passport, Permanent Resident Card (commonly known as a ``Green Card''), or other employment authorization document issued by the United States, a driver's license issued by a State or the District of Columbia, or another form of identification issued by a State or the District of Columbia; or, a foreign government-issued equivalent of any of the documents listed above when both the person who is the subject of the picture identification card and the producer maintaining the required records are located outside the United States.

card.."Card", Singular, NOT "cards" plural.

a document..."a" being a singular word and also the use of the word "Document" vs. "documents."

Moving on.....

Section 75.2 Maintenance of records.

(a)
(1) The legal name and date of birth of each performer, obtained by the producer's examination of a picture identification card. For any performer portrayed in such a depiction made after July 3, 1995, the records shall also include a legible copy of the identification document examined and, if that document does not contain a recent and recognizable picture of the performer, a legible copy of a picture identification card. For any performer portrayed in such a depiction after June 23, 2005, the records shall include

"document"...Once again.."Document, NOT "documents"

"that document"..."That" being a singular word instead of saying "those" and also once again the use of the word "Document" vs. "documents."

Thank you for playing.

Please drive through.

MegaBondage · 05-25-2005, 08:16 PM

Taking a picture of a drivers license by itself is not acceptable Aaron.
You are the ONLY content producer that would think it was.

After Shock Media · 05-25-2005, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaBondage

Taking a picture of a drivers license by itself is not acceptable Aaron.
You are the ONLY content producer that would think it was.

As a form of ID it is acceptable as long as the picture still looks like the model.

MegaBondage · 05-25-2005, 08:20 PM

Which is why you take a picture of the model holding the id up beside her face...

You can PROOVE it is her, even if her looks change later, you can proove she WAS there and the ID is legit and not a fake.

Turboface · 05-25-2005, 08:22 PM

David, everyone knows that you don't have two nickels to rub together.

You'd figure that for all your years of taking advantage of webmasters, you'd have something to show for it.

After Shock Media · 05-25-2005, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaBondage

Which is why you take a picture of the model holding the id up beside her face...

You can PROOVE it is her, even if her looks change later, you can proove she WAS there and the ID is legit and not a fake.

Listen in my first post did I not say to have the model hold the ID next to their face? Though this does not proove it is or is not a fake id.
Though the regs do not require this step.

AaronM · 05-25-2005, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaBondage

Taking a picture of a drivers license by itself is not acceptable Aaron.
You are the ONLY content producer that would think it was.

Uh...Where did I even mention taking a picture of the license? Also, where did I say that was all that was needed to be compliant?

Now, I really am done with you.

Bye bye.

AaronM · 05-25-2005, 08:28 PM

Hey kids....I'd like to make a suggestion.

Don't give this guy any more attention.

Fuck em. Just walk away from this thread as I am doing right now.

After Shock Media · 05-25-2005, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

Hey kids....I'd like to make a suggestion.

Don't give this guy any more attention.

Fuck em. Just walk away from this thread as I am doing right now.

It is already shown he is an idiot. Also apparenty I am Henry and I am black. Though good idea I think I shall be done here as well.

Tofu · 05-25-2005, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaBondage

Yes and about 6 of every shirt and gift that adult.com gives away.

Not ONE person on here only has 1 nic. Not one. I think Juicy admitting having close to 30.

What next Henry.

For the record:

This is mi only nic.

kane · 05-25-2005, 08:34 PM

I'm no lawyer, nor am I a content producer but I do know that as it sits the current 2257 law seems to violate some right to privacy laws. For example: if I go to work for a company that company will take down my information, including a copy of my drivers license or ID for thier records, taxes etc. But they can't just give it to everyone that buys the product the company makes. Same with credit card companies, insurance companies, doctors, pretty much anyone you give copies of ID to these days is forced to give you a copy of thier privacy policy. So I can't see how a court would let anyone with $30 buy some pics and get a models private information. Forget stalking Identity theft is now the #1 crime in America. Having your ID info availible to anyone with the money to buy a pic set seems a little wrong.

But then again, as I said, I'm not a lawyer.

GatorB · 05-25-2005, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane

I'm no lawyer, nor am I a content producer but I do know that as it sits the current 2257 law seems to violate some right to privacy laws. For example: if I go to work for a company that company will take down my information, including a copy of my drivers license or ID for thier records, taxes etc. But they can't just give it to everyone that buys the product the company makes. Same with credit card companies, insurance companies, doctors, pretty much anyone you give copies of ID to these days is forced to give you a copy of thier privacy policy. So I can't see how a court would let anyone with $30 buy some pics and get a models private information. Forget stalking Identity theft is now the #1 crime in America. Having your ID info availible to anyone with the money to buy a pic set seems a little wrong.

But then again, as I said, I'm not a lawyer.

Sixty-two commenters commented that revealing personal information
of performers, for example, in the form of their addresses on drivers'
licenses used as identification documents in compliance with this
regulation, is an invasion of performers' privacy and could lead to
identity theft or violent crimes. Forty commenters commented that
including the names and addresses of businesses where the records at
issue are located would similarly lead to crimes against those
businesses. The Department declines to adopt these comments. While the
Department is certainly concerned about possible crimes against
performers and businesses that employ them, the necessity of
maintaining these records to ensure that children are not exploited
outweighs these concerns.

MegaBondage · 05-25-2005, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface

David, everyone knows that you don't have two nickels to rub together.

You'd figure that for all your years of taking advantage of webmasters, you'd have something to show for it.

Want to find out.

Turboface · 05-25-2005, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaBondage

Want to find out.

What are you gonna do, post your bank statments?

Oh, wait a minute, you can't. You can't get a bank account in your name because of that 2 million dollar judgment that you have against you.

Tala · 05-25-2005, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaBondage

Yes and about 6 of every shirt and gift that adult.com gives away.

Not ONE person on here only has 1 nic. Not one. I think Juicy admitting having close to 30.

What next Henry.

Not true. I have enough issues trying to keep up with my one nic.

Chimmy · 05-25-2005, 08:46 PM

Warning, do not trust David Stodghill.
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/472458-megabondage-caution.html

MegaBondage · 05-25-2005, 08:46 PM

Patrick, I want to tell you this in all seriousness.

Earlier you posted that I was a murder suspect which I will neither deny nor confirm.

I know where you live.

I know how far it is from my house.

Do you want to keep playing cat and mouse.

GatorB · 05-25-2005, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tala

Not true. I have enough issues trying to keep up with my one nic.

I only have one nick. Fuck nobody knows who am I now so WTF do I need 2 nics for. I'm so lazy this is my nic on all webmaster boards.

Tala · 05-25-2005, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaBondage

Patrick, I want to tell you this in all seriousness.

Earlier you posted that I was a murder suspect which I will neither deny nor confirm.

I know where you live.

I know how far it is from my house.

Do you want to keep playing cat and mouse.

Hmmm, is that a threat that should be brought to the attention of the mods?

Tala · 05-25-2005, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB

I only have one nick. Fuck nobody knows who am I now so WTF do I need 2 nics for. I'm so lazy this is my nic on all webmaster boards.

Same here. god, I'm so predictable.

MegaBondage · 05-25-2005, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tala

Hmmm, is that a threat that should be brought to the attention of the mods?

Gee, I'd hate to have to dig into another one of my 45 usernames.

Turboface · 05-25-2005, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaBondage

Patrick, I want to tell you this in all seriousness.

Earlier you posted that I was a murder suspect which I will neither deny nor confirm.

I know where you live.

I know how far it is from my house.

Do you want to keep playing cat and mouse.

David, in all seriousness, you're full of shit.

You should be careful about threatening people's lives online.

Tala · 05-25-2005, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaBondage

Gee, I'd hate to have to dig into another one of my 45 usernames.

'sokay, eventually they'll all get banned too. It's not that difficult to figure out which nic is you.

Turboface · 05-25-2005, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tala

'sokay, eventually they'll all get banned too. It's not that difficult to figure out which nic is you.

Exactly. Dave's not as slick as he think he is.

'MegaBondage' has just been banned.

my2257 · 05-25-2005, 09:38 PM

We have spoken to three Attorneys on this subject.
To the best of our ability we have found four Federal regulations that a producer MUST violate to comply with this new ruling.

Producers MUST violate the following:

1. Freedom of information act
2. Personal Privacy Laws
3. Anti Stalking Laws
4. Releasing of pertinent personal information with the intent to do harm

We are firm believers that PRIVACY must be kept safe - thus said how do you do it in this environment?

? Producer is going to really have to watch who they licensed content to.
? Producers are going to have to inform talent of the new rules and make sure the talent acknowledges that they understand them new rules.
? Producers MUST do everything within their power to protect talents personal data.

We have a client that has decided to enclose edited copies of Identification and a text file outlining the pertinent details to each production.

They are then using our software were buy the can offer clients / webmasters secure real time presentation of needed documents within moments of request. They will offer their clients the ability to log onto a secure site and recover the needed documents once they have proven their identity or needs to our client.

This ensures that the receiver of the information is NOTY just some stalker who bought a single $6.00 photo set to get a girls personal information.

Ask yourself if a stalker injures or worse yet kills a model based on a producer freely giving away the information whose will be sued?
The producer or the Federal Government?

These are scary times for the industry and avoiding these new rules will NOT save you.
Action MUST be taken by ALL producers and secondary producers to ensure they are compliant in the next 30 days.

Mayor · 05-26-2005, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi

Good for you, so you also saw lensmans invite over at mayors board.
Time in this industry means jack shit though. I can easily find sites that have been up since 96 or earlier that are still not compliant with the old regs. Amount of content shot also means jack shit if you did not understand the regs to begin with.

Though one thing is very clear to me, you just admitted to having 45 usernames here which make it very understandable that you do not understand nor follow rules.

Don't drag me into this

GatorB · 05-26-2005, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my2257

We have a client that has decided to enclose edited copies of Identification and a text file outlining the pertinent details to each production.

Edited copies won't do. Secondary producers have to either have phsyical copies of the docs or digital copies of scaned docs.

Another commenter proposed that secondary producers be required to
store sanitized (i.e., without personal information such as home
address) hard or digital copies of performers' identification documents
along with a notarized affidavit from the primary producer stating the
location of the complete records. The Department declines to adopt this
comment. Although the Department understands the commenter's desire to
protect private information about performers from being too widely
disseminated, it believes that the suggested plan would be overly
burdensome on primary producers and add an unnecessary layer of
complexity to the record-keeping process. Primary producers would be
required first to sanitize the identification documents and then to
draft, sign, and pay for a notarized affidavit. It is simpler and less
burdensome simply to have primary producers transfer a copy of the
records to secondary producers.

bigdog · 05-26-2005, 07:42 AM

Shit will hit the fan once some model gets killed by some stalker, plus how many girls are really going to want to do porn now if they think their personal info might get out. I can see kids hacking usecured servers now, and posting all a models personal info on some websites

After Shock Media · 05-26-2005, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayor

Don't drag me into this

Well damn a real blast from the past. Never intended to drag you into anything

Now thank you for using up one of your .04 posts per day on me.

spongemonkey · 05-26-2005, 12:38 PM

I had a more blatant death threat from Stodghill pop up here.

From JessieLunsford.com

Stodghill writes:

David Markland dead

Chuck Beckett aka David Markland, I am going to kill you.
This is our introduction.

Posted By: Amir

80.191.129.70 @ 05/26/05 05:34:36

You'll find his proxy ip is by way of Iran. Unfortunately for Stodghill, merely using a proxy isn't enough to cover your tracks.

05-25-2005, 08:10 PM	#51
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05-25-2005, 08:12 PM	#53
MegaBondage So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Dungeon Posts: 101	You sir are banned Last edited by Eric; 05-25-2005 at 09:00 PM..

05-25-2005, 08:22 PM	#59
Turboface Back in Black Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,976	David, everyone knows that you don't have two nickels to rub together. You'd figure that for all your years of taking advantage of webmasters, you'd have something to show for it. __________________ Search Engine Optimization Services for Adult Sites Last edited by Eric; 05-25-2005 at 09:01 PM..

05-25-2005, 08:34 PM	#65
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I'm no lawyer, nor am I a content producer but I do know that as it sits the current 2257 law seems to violate some right to privacy laws. For example: if I go to work for a company that company will take down my information, including a copy of my drivers license or ID for thier records, taxes etc. But they can't just give it to everyone that buys the product the company makes. Same with credit card companies, insurance companies, doctors, pretty much anyone you give copies of ID to these days is forced to give you a copy of thier privacy policy. So I can't see how a court would let anyone with $30 buy some pics and get a models private information. Forget stalking Identity theft is now the #1 crime in America. Having your ID info availible to anyone with the money to buy a pic set seems a little wrong. But then again, as I said, I'm not a lawyer. Last edited by kane; 05-25-2005 at 08:36 PM..

05-25-2005, 09:38 PM	#79
my2257 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 110	Violations of Privacy! We have spoken to three Attorneys on this subject. To the best of our ability we have found four Federal regulations that a producer MUST violate to comply with this new ruling. Producers MUST violate the following: 1. Freedom of information act 2. Personal Privacy Laws 3. Anti Stalking Laws 4. Releasing of pertinent personal information with the intent to do harm We are firm believers that PRIVACY must be kept safe - thus said how do you do it in this environment? ? Producer is going to really have to watch who they licensed content to. ? Producers are going to have to inform talent of the new rules and make sure the talent acknowledges that they understand them new rules. ? Producers MUST do everything within their power to protect talents personal data. We have a client that has decided to enclose edited copies of Identification and a text file outlining the pertinent details to each production. They are then using our software were buy the can offer clients / webmasters secure real time presentation of needed documents within moments of request. They will offer their clients the ability to log onto a secure site and recover the needed documents once they have proven their identity or needs to our client. This ensures that the receiver of the information is NOTY just some stalker who bought a single $6.00 photo set to get a girls personal information. Ask yourself if a stalker injures or worse yet kills a model based on a producer freely giving away the information whose will be sued? The producer or the Federal Government? These are scary times for the industry and avoiding these new rules will NOT save you. Action MUST be taken by ALL producers and secondary producers to ensure they are compliant in the next 30 days.

05-25-2005, 08:16 PM	#56
MegaBondage So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Dungeon Posts: 101	Taking a picture of a drivers license by itself is not acceptable Aaron. You are the ONLY content producer that would think it was.

05-25-2005, 08:20 PM	#58
MegaBondage So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Dungeon Posts: 101	Which is why you take a picture of the model holding the id up beside her face... You can PROOVE it is her, even if her looks change later, you can proove she WAS there and the ID is legit and not a fake.

05-25-2005, 08:28 PM	#62
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Hey kids....I'd like to make a suggestion. Don't give this guy any more attention. Fuck em. Just walk away from this thread as I am doing right now.

05-25-2005, 08:46 PM	#70
Chimmy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 469	Warning, do not trust David Stodghill. https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/472458-megabondage-caution.html

05-26-2005, 07:42 AM	#82
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	Shit will hit the fan once some model gets killed by some stalker, plus how many girls are really going to want to do porn now if they think their personal info might get out. I can see kids hacking usecured servers now, and posting all a models personal info on some websites

05-26-2005, 12:38 PM	#84
spongemonkey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 199	I had a more blatant death threat from Stodghill pop up here. From JessieLunsford.com Stodghill writes: David Markland dead Chuck Beckett aka David Markland, I am going to kill you. This is our introduction. Posted By: Amir 80.191.129.70 @ 05/26/05 05:34:36 You'll find his proxy ip is by way of Iran. Unfortunately for Stodghill, merely using a proxy isn't enough to cover your tracks.