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Old 05-24-2005, 10:52 PM   #1
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If you have fake/hidden dns whois info...

...then how can the DOJ tell who owns the site? they contact the host?
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:53 PM   #2
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Bingo...if you really really care about being secret than you host offshore
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:54 PM   #3
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They'll contact your upstream provider for billing info, with a subpoena if necessary.



Move to http://www.havenco.com/ if you happen to be paranoid
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:55 PM   #4
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They'll contact your upstream provider for billing info, with a subpoena if necessary.



Move to http://www.havenco.com/ if you happen to be paranoid
what would be the use? if i LIVE in the u.s. i have to comply with u.s. law regardless of where my site is hosted.
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:59 PM   #5
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Is it actually a legal requirement to fill in all the details of the domain owner?
Or aslong as they can contact you via one of the methods(email) is it ok?
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Old 05-24-2005, 11:00 PM   #6
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what would be the use? if i LIVE in the u.s. i have to comply with u.s. law regardless of where my site is hosted.
If your DNS and hosting have been arranged by a provider who will not comply with subpoenas or requests for information, then you are effectively immune from anyone knowing. It would look a little something like this:


DOJ: Please present your real info.
You: Fuck off
DOJ: Host, please give us the contact info, under threat of US subpoena
Host: Fuck off

DOJ heads elsewhere for an easier target.
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Old 05-24-2005, 11:02 PM   #7
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If your DNS and hosting have been arranged by a provider who will not comply with subpoenas or requests for information, then you are effectively immune from anyone knowing. It would look a little something like this:


DOJ: Please present your real info.
You: Fuck off
DOJ: Host, please give us the contact info, under threat of US subpoena
Host: Fuck off

DOJ heads elsewhere for an easier target.
well i'm pretty sure webair would cooperate with the government...
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Old 05-24-2005, 11:02 PM   #8
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Is it actually a legal requirement to fill in all the details of the domain owner?
Or aslong as they can contact you via one of the methods(email) is it ok?
Its not a legal requirement for the international domains, however under ICANN rules you can lose your domain for intentionally falsifying information.

Certain countries have laws prohibiting misappropriation of domains with their country code.

It is illegal in the United States to falsify domain contact info to facilitate another crime.
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Old 05-24-2005, 11:03 PM   #9
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well i'm pretty sure webair would cooperate with the government...
Thats why I suggested offshore hosting
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Thats why I suggested offshore hosting
well that would take care of the hosting, but what about registerfly where the domain dns info is?
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off shore hosting is the only way around it
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