Young humans??? Oh come now. If they can let Terri Shiavo die, who could move her eyes, breathe using a machine, and crap herself; then certainly they could see that harvesting potentially life saving cells from an egg and sperm in lab dish that was never destined to produce a human being is a good thing for humanity.

I do find it funny that you accuse me of not being able to think for myself and then your very next sentence includes a bad poltical seterotype.

http://www.ivf-infertility.com/images/blastocyst.jpg

This is Fred Perkins. Fred, meet Funforone. Shake hands.

oh wait...

Many of the liberals in the thread have been told that president Bush wants to stop stem cell research.

That simply shows how uninformed they are.

I can make this thread extremely embarassing for them, but I'm having alot of fun as it is.

I fully believe that the Government should regulate child birth as a whole. You need a license to drive, fly, or go boating, but not one for having a child?

The process for adoption is pretty complicated, and it's apparently hard to get approved.

How come any 16 year old, broke ass, no education, no father, no hope loser can bring a child into the world?


Of course, some would say that's a radical Government who would enforce such a law, but in reality, if child birth was regulated I bet crime would drop, poverty would drop, etc etc etc. Of course, then you may have the problem of the overall population of your country would shrink rather than expand.


Quantity or quality, hmm...

It's not a stereotype, it's a fair characterization. The people trying to push creationism in schools are the same people trying to ban Huck Finn are the same people telling us to 'watch what we say'.

You're a pack of witch-burners. Get out of my country.

more proof that you dont belong in this discussion

They just want people to harvest them from alternate sources, but those sources are much more difficult to harvest the best cells from. Correct me if I'm wrong. :)

aww I'm hurting the dumb guys feelings. Sorry dumb guy :(

More proof you dont belong in any political discussion

You think right wing fundamentalists likes free speech? :1orglaugh That's not a stereotype, it's a fact. They wants porn illegal and they want you in jail.

You must be pretty sheltered to not have seen what the far right has tried to do with the first amendment when they get the chance.

Porn webmasters who support the far right are like an abused wife in a relationship where their husband is beating them. The far right hates you and wants to lock you up, and you keep kissing their ass.

Get out of the bad relationship you're in with the far right! :1orglaugh

50 sheep!

Do you believe an adult should be able to read anything they want?

FunForOne, if you had a daughter with a crippling illness, or you were in a wheelchair, do you think your views on stem cell harvesting would change?



Personally, I think that mankind should push genetic engineering as far as we can go. I'd love to see vat grown replacement organs ( designer, no less ) in 50 years.


"Nike Sport Heart"


"Mike Tyson signature replacement bicep"


"Lance Armstrong enduro plus knee joint"


"Starbucks coffee enhancing tongue" ( Comes in various sizes, and a special titanium vibrator insert is available )

If Rush Limbaugh's views change, his will change. Otherwise, nothing will change them. :1orglaugh

The embryonic research has shown far less results than the alternative sources.
It is argued that it does have more long term potential, but the science is just not ready for it.

Things could change tomorrow, then it may be appropriate to change policies regarding funding related to existing embryos.

As of now, president bush is against further government funding of embryonic stem cell research for ethical and scientific reasons.



Liberals just decided to tell you that superman died because President Bush reads his bible.

Whoever started this thread felt the topic extremely important, but didn't take the time to google. My bet is that they had little time becuase this was posted on a lot more message boards. It wasn't meant for serious scientific and ethical discussion.

Do you believe that adults should be able to read whatever they want?

Really?


From the little bit of late night reading into this subject, I believe that scientists have said stem cells harvested from embryos is the best source there is. Hmm!


I bet scientists around the world wouldn't agree which is the definitive best source. :)

Give him time! He has to do a search at Rush's website to see what he believes.

:1orglaugh

Ahh...Danny boy...the question should be...do you beleive that an adult should be legally able to publish whatever they want?

Well?

what? fuck off. It's a simple question.

You actually, unknowingly, hit the nail on the head. I dont speak for everyone in the republican party, but I Imagine most feel the same way I do.

"ADULTS"


I believe "adults" should enjoy as much porn as they want. I believe "adults" should read anything they want.


I have a son, I hope he learns about "fisting" and "double penetration" when he is old enough to comprehend the consequences of his actions and his actions toward others.

My job is stimulate the growth of his mind until it matures. That takes time, to speed up that process, would leave his maturity incomplete. There is no black and white, the natural timely discovery of things is important in the development process.

Just my opinion. This is my first try at fatherhood, but I plan alot.

You seem to be well versed in what Rush has to say...which would make you the only person that I know of that listens to Rush.

and the answer is yes.

Another brainwashed Bush sheep arrives to attack free speech.

Pathfinder thinks free speech is too dangerous, because we're at war with Muslims! :1orglaugh

well that puts you one ahead of most of your colleagues


http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/nsa.../ns_0603.shtml

Ahh...yes it is...and if you put down the MJ for a few hours...Danny boy... maybe...just maybe...you will find a coherent answer.

I really do find it funny that the someone would take the time to tell everyone they are from free speech land and then bash a political radio show for existing in every post.

Pathfinder is a fucking disturbed individual, one of the dozens who post in every political thread in defense of conservative issues but doesn't want to admit to being a conservative.

His idea of an insult is to call me Danny-boy, which is always good for a laugh.

My name is Bernie, theking, and Pathfinder sucks cocks in hell.

yes we're from 'free speech land' where everyone gets along and flowers grow all along the roadside hahahaha

You don't believe in free speech, and you DON'T believe adults should be free to read anything they want to read. You just have to say it because you know you'll be laughed off the board if you don't :1orglaugh

Do you believe a woman should have all the freedoms that a man has?

So you are in favor of publishing books about...hmm lets say...how to make bombs and terrorize you neighbor...how to committ murder and get away with...how to produce a "dirty nuke"...or how about how to seduce and molest children and get away with it...etc...etc? This is your brain on drugs...Danny boy.

you're done

I'm in favor of publishing anything and everything Pathfinder. Adults should be able to sort the good from the bad on their own without daddy W telling them what's ok and what's not ok to look at lest they hurt their widdle eyes.

you wish :1orglaugh

do you believe that women should enjoy the same level of freedom as men?

This is an "adultboard" as you say so often ... tough I never saw you posting anything business related .... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Ask me a business related question and I'll do my best to answer.

FYI...PF has been dead...approaching three years now...but thank you for believing that I am he.

Further more...FYI...I am not now a Republican...and have never been a Republican. In addition I did not vote for President Bush the first time and did not vote for him the second time...and I do not like Mr. Bush holding the office of the Presidency...thank you very much.

Having said the above...feel free to carry on with your fiction Mr. Fiction...even though you are not very good at it.

what sites do you run?

Embryotic stem cells do perform and show better results than adult or "other" stem cells. To use a better word they are still highly plastic.
One must actually really follow the current and past research as well as keep very up to date on foriegn data to really understand this issue.
Like so many others it is very easy to get scientists to counter what other scientists say in order to push or halt an agenda. Keep in mind our Government still believes that global warming needs more study, and the tobacco companies were also able to debunk most all scientists with their own for decades. So just because some reports claim otherwise does not in no way even often resemble the truth.
Christian right wing republicans (not all republicans) desire to keep embryos from being used due soley on the religious angle and the scare tactics that it would lead to baby harvesting (more abortions).
Like it or not though stem cell research even at the embryo level will go on and move foward. The majority of this research though will either be done in other countries or in small well funded private labs in the US. At one point in time our country lead the world in such fields, but alas like many others the powers that be would rather ignore what made us prosper and try to return us to some utopian god fearing society that never exsisted in the first place.

shut up man, your act is ooooold.

what's the story again? Pathfinder died, left his monitor on this page and you just decided to start posting?

hahahahahahaha

you're such a weird fuck :Oh crap