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Old 05-22-2005, 10:47 AM   #1
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Payment for 2257 docs

Would it be possible to ask for payment if someone (FBI/police) want to see the 2257 for a model?
Like 100$ upfront for every model.
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:48 AM   #2
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are you on crack?
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:48 AM   #3
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I don't think that would work
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:48 AM   #4
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so you are asking the cops to pay to see the docs?
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:49 AM   #5
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I would say a definite no go on that one
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:51 AM   #6
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good idea

im going to start charging cops to see my drivers licence too, $250 sounds fair
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:51 AM   #7
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I cant see anything about they dont have to pay a fee for the docs.
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:54 AM   #8
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I cant see anything about they dont have to pay a fee for the docs.
because they are folks of the law, checking up on you whether you run a legal business. You honestly think that you can ask the cops to pay a fine if they are checking for legality of your models?
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:55 AM   #9
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because they are folks of the law, checking up on you whether you run a legal business. You honestly think that you can ask the cops to pay a fine if they are checking for legality of your models?
It never hurts to ask

Maby a idea for non US webmasters.
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Old 05-22-2005, 10:57 AM   #10
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Oh man no way . If the Fuzzzzzzzzzzzz be knocking and wants em hand em over and also offer em coffee and donuts.
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Old 05-22-2005, 11:00 AM   #11
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Well, I don't see how they could force a non-us webmaster to hand them over. Sounds like if they REALLY want to see them then they could have to pay.

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Old 05-22-2005, 11:08 AM   #12
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Old 05-22-2005, 11:11 AM   #13
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Everyone really ought to read the actual (proposed) regulations. Contrary to what is being said, they really are in plain English and do not require a lawyer for interpretation, except for a few fuzzy areas that nobody can interpret.

Also, US laws do not apply to other countries:


(a) Authority to inspect. Investigators designated by the Attorney General (hereinafter ??investigators??) are authorized to enter without delay and at reasonable times (as defined in subsection (c)(1)) any establishment of a producer where records under § 75.2 are maintained to inspect, within reasonable limits and in a reasonable manner, for the purpose of determining compliance with the record-keeping requirements of 18 U.S.C. 2257.
(b) Advance notice of inspections . Advance notice of record inspections shall not be given.
(c) Conduct of inspections.
(1) Inspections shall take place during normal business hours and at such places as specified in § 75.4. For the purpose of this part, ??normal business hours?? are from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m., local time, and any other time during which the producer is actually conducting business relating to producing depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct.
(2) Upon commencing an inspection,
the investigator shall:
(i) Present his or her credentials to the owner, operator, or agent in charge of the establishment;
(ii) Explain the nature and purpose of the inspection, including the limited nature of the records inspection, and the records required to be kept by the Act
and this part; and
(iii) Indicate the scope of the specific inspection and the records that he or she wishes to inspect.
(3) The inspections shall be conducted so as not to unreasonably disrupt the operations of the producer?s
establishment.
(4) At the conclusion of an inspection, the investigator may informally advise the producer of any apparent violations disclosed by the inspection. The producer may bring to the attention of the investigator any pertinent information regarding the records inspected or any other relevant matter.
(d) Frequency of inspections. A producer may be inspected once during any four-month period, unless there is a reasonable suspicion to believe that a violation of this part has occurred, in which case an additional inspection or inspections may be conducted before the four-month period has expired.
(e) Copies of records. An investigator may photocopy, at no expense to the producer, during the inspection, any record that is subject to inspection.
(f) Other law enforcement authority. These regulations do not restrict the otherwise lawful investigative prerogatives of an investigator while conducting an inspection.
(g) Seizure of evidence. Notwithstanding any provision of this part or any other regulation, a law enforcement officer may seize any evidence of the commission of any felony while conducting an inspection.
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Old 05-22-2005, 11:12 AM   #14
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Well, I don't see how they could force a non-us webmaster to hand them over. Sounds like if they REALLY want to see them then they could have to pay.

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If they come to my office, then they can check the document for free provided they are they Montreal cops or the RCMP. But if they are the FBI or non Canadian cops, I don't see why I shouldn't charge them a fee. It will cost me money to check with my lawyer if the warrent is legit in Canada and to send them the document. Why should I pay these costs?
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Old 05-22-2005, 02:29 PM   #15
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Would it be possible to ask for payment if someone (FBI/police) want to see the 2257 for a model?
Like 100$ upfront for every model.

Considering the fact that neither the FBI nor the Police have any legal rights under 2257 to require these docs from you, I suppose you could try to be a smart ass and charge them for it. Of course, they could also chose to fuck your life inside out and back again too.
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Old 05-22-2005, 02:34 PM   #16
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More likely, they will charge you for their time to look at the documents. I'm surprised they didn't include that in the regulations.
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Old 05-22-2005, 02:50 PM   #17
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i am rolling on the floor here - funniest post i've read here in awhile.

charging the FBI to look at your documents - hey why not also charge them $5 bucks for parking in your driveway and then tell them there's a two drink minimum
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Old 05-22-2005, 03:22 PM   #18
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i am rolling on the floor here - funniest post i've read here in awhile.

charging the FBI to look at your documents - hey why not also charge them $5 bucks for parking in your driveway and then tell them there's a two drink minimum

Better yet...Have their car towed and have them arrested for trespassing.
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