Just got our first cancellation for not having exclusive content. - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 05-22-2005, 09:06 AM

Well not exactly a cancellation more a non repeater. This is the email he sent, seems he screwed up cancelling the rebilling option.

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Hello, Why is my access to your site removed? I have payed for a month membership but have canceled because your content is so much the same as some other sites I have been a member of. I expect to have access for one month when I have payed for one month. On top of this my subscription is not canceled at ccbill!?! What is happening here?? By the way, I Love your teen movies

Regards.

We are way over 1,000 sign ups on www.paulmarkhamteens.com, and we just lost a rebill.

What's this I hear about exclusive is the only way to go?

Seems not to worry a lot of people. But this guy did come from an affiliate who has his own site mostly made up with our content.

slapass · 05-22-2005, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by charly

Well not exactly a cancellation more a non repeater. This is the email he sent, seems he screwed up cancelling the rebilling option.

We are way over 1,000 sign ups on www.paulmarkhamteens.com, and we just lost a rebill.

What's this I hear about exclusive is the only way to go?

Seems not to worry a lot of people. But this guy did come from an affiliate who has his own site mostly made up with our content.

charly, i probably read this wrong. you have 99% rebill?

MandyBlake · 05-22-2005, 09:09 AM

you are all swimming in the same pool. eventually you were going to get someone who saw your stuff someplace else.

Shooting_Manic · 05-22-2005, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

charly, i probably read this wrong. you have 99% rebill?

No, by his numbers he has 99.99% rebills.

Here we go again and Charly. Stop lieing about your rebill percentage or if I am reading that wrong... please forgive me.

Better yet, let me test your rebill percentage for myself. Get me and many zipped galleries as you have. Not free hosted, I will host them, but get me the galleries.

Email the zip files to [email protected] and I will have you up today.

If you are at 99.99% rebills I will send you more traffic then you know what to do with. However, we all know that could not possibly be true.

serguei · 05-22-2005, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by charly

Well not exactly a cancellation more a non repeater. This is the email he sent, seems he screwed up cancelling the rebilling option.

We are way over 1,000 sign ups on www.paulmarkhamteens.com, and we just lost a rebill.

What's this I hear about exclusive is the only way to go?

Seems not to worry a lot of people. But this guy did come from an affiliate who has his own site mostly made up with our content.

Your costumer is correct. because if you have the same content like million another websites you will have the same problem with another customers.... In now days you should have really your own content or exclusive content like we have. We have not such messages. For example look at our site www.defloration.com Sorry for my english, but I think this is clear for you.... Not enought to do nice index page....

Shooting_Manic · 05-22-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by serguei

Your costumer is correct. because if you have the same content like million another websites you will have the same problem with another customers.... In now days you should have really your own content or exclusive content like we have. We have not such messages. For example look at our site www.defloration.com Sorry for my english, but I think this is clear for you.... Not enought to do nice index page....

Great site!

He will get tons of emails like that or people will just cancel without an email at all. At least that member emailed him to point out the members areas short comings. Charly has AWESOME content, but its VERY non-exclusive. He shot it all and has been selling it over and over for years. then recently, he opened a website, (not a bad looking site I might add) with all his own content that is in nearly members areas of every site, as filler in the world. I dont blame him, its an income source that should be taken advantage of. However, Charlys content is some of the most over-saturated stuff out there. Its great, clean stuff, but its everywhere. If I see that Petra girl one more time I am going to slice my wrist.. haha I dont care that she is as hot as fuck anymore. hehe

DutchTeenCash · 05-22-2005, 10:00 AM

99% lol yeah right... weve got 100% exclusive content on many sites too, maybe I should post nonsense stories too...

Shooting_Manic · 05-22-2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

99% lol yeah right... weve got 100% exclusive content on many sites too, maybe I should post nonsense stories too...

It has to be a typing error or something. I mean he has to know that no one would buy that 1 lost rebill out of 1000 sales story. He had to have mis-typed that. Charly, dispite his non-exclusive soap box now and then is a good guy. Must be a mistake.

05-22-2005, 10:11 AM

I think maybe he means it was the first cancellation they received where the reason for the cancellation was the non-exclusive content.

I don't think he meant it was the first cancellation they ever received. If he did mean that then I better start promoting his site because he is sure doing something right. LOL.

Shooting_Manic · 05-22-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by evildick

I think maybe he means it was the first cancellation they received where the reason for the cancellation was the non-exclusive content.

I don't think he meant it was the first cancellation they ever received. If he did mean that then I better start promoting his site because he is sure doing something right. LOL.

Thats what I am thinking also. It must be the first email he got citing the non-exclusive issue. Well, the first cancel that took the time to tell him why anyways.

And you are right.... if his 99% is correct, he is about to get a shitload of joins from me. hehe

DutchTeenCash · 05-22-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

It has to be a typing error or something. I mean he has to know that no one would buy that 1 lost rebill out of 1000 sales story. He had to have mis-typed that. Charly, dispite his non-exclusive soap box now and then is a good guy. Must be a mistake.

he still processes with myvirtualcard thats a no no in my book

slapass · 05-22-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

he still processes with myvirtualcard thats a no no in my book

Not sure what that is but I just signed up and it was ccbill join form.

Shooting_Manic · 05-22-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

he still processes with myvirtualcard thats a no no in my book

Hmmm thought he was a ccbill guy? Yeah, well I would agree. He needs to get a processor.

Snake Doctor · 05-22-2005, 10:29 AM

Shooting_Manic · 05-22-2005, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Brujah · 05-22-2005, 10:33 AM

Charly, it doesn't count if you signup 999 times yourself.

Doctor Dre · 05-22-2005, 10:34 AM

I think he means it's the first time he get a complain about it

fireorange · 05-22-2005, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Rui · 05-22-2005, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

I think he means it's the first time he get a complain about it

thats the idea I got myself

Paul Markham · 05-22-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

No, by his numbers he has 99.99% rebills.

Here we go again and Charly. Stop lieing about your rebill percentage or if I am reading that wrong... please forgive me.

Better yet, let me test your rebill percentage for myself. Get me and many zipped galleries as you have. Not free hosted, I will host them, but get me the galleries.

Email the zip files to [email protected] and I will have you up today.

If you are at 99.99% rebills I will send you more traffic then you know what to do with. However, we all know that could not possibly be true.

I never said that, I said I had my first cancellation and it was a bit of irony that I added he only cancelled the rebill.

Obviously comedy is not your strong point.

We rebill about 50% from what I can see so far. Average stay is running at just over 2 months.

pornguy · 05-22-2005, 01:05 PM

I think I will be adding you to my tgp's shortly.

Paul Markham · 05-22-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Great site!

He will get tons of emails like that or people will just cancel without an email at all. At least that member emailed him to point out the members areas short comings. Charly has AWESOME content, but its VERY non-exclusive. He shot it all and has been selling it over and over for years. then recently, he opened a website, (not a bad looking site I might add) with all his own content that is in nearly members areas of every site, as filler in the world. I dont blame him, its an income source that should be taken advantage of. However, Charlys content is some of the most over-saturated stuff out there. Its great, clean stuff, but its everywhere. If I see that Petra girl one more time I am going to slice my wrist.. haha I dont care that she is as hot as fuck anymore. hehe

If my content were in 10% of teens sites I would be as rich as Lensman. Think about it.

A license that does not allow distribution to affiliates, ony 10 URLs and we mostly sell to people with 1-2 sites. Not programs who wll put it on 20 sites and give it to affiliates.

Yes after 1,000+ members signed up I got a guy who decided he has seen it before and will only stay one month.

Keep shooting exclusive for $200 a set, with the videos thrown in for free.

Exclusive that's given to 1,000 affilaites gets more exposure than any of our sets.

Paul Markham · 05-22-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by evildick

I think maybe he means it was the first cancellation they received where the reason for the cancellation was the non-exclusive content.

I don't think he meant it was the first cancellation they ever received. If he did mean that then I better start promoting his site because he is sure doing something right. LOL.

At last someone with working brain cells.

yes it was the first cancellation we got who said it was for the fact he's seen the content before. What the others missed was where he came from. One of our clients who send us membership traffic.

Mostly they sign and stay,this guy did not. Very few of our clients have all our content on.

Paul Markham · 05-22-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

I think he means it's the first time he get a complain about it

Right again.

To listen to allthe EXCLUSIVE is the way to go guys, you wouldthink my non exclusive site wouldget charge backs daily. To date not one, had about 5 cancellations though.

It seems the 3 new sets a day is what they really like. 3 sets they have not seen keeps them happy as Larry.

Shooting Maniac shoots for $200 a set with all the videos thrown in. I sell a set 7 times I make more money. He says stuff is saturated. Wish it was I would not open a paysite if that were the case.

How many times do you have to sell a set that is for members areas only to saturate it. 10, 20, 50 times?

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pornguy I think I will be adding you to my tgp's shortly.

Try them out, do you have good teen traffic?

Paul Markham · 05-22-2005, 01:29 PM

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Fruity Files has quite a few of your movies. Actually it was there I
"discovered" them. Some sites use your movies as teasers but when you
get inside there is nothing. So when I finely found the full length
stuff I was thrilled. And I have been a member of Sapphic Erotica
witch I allso understand is your work? Very nice. I like your
colorfull settings and the happy cherfull atmosphere. And of cause the
lovely girls.

On 5/22/05, Paul Markham wrote:
> They were nice girls. Christine especially.
>
> We are adding a few every week that no one else has so hopefully you will
> find some you like.
> Where were you a memeber before?

So it seems he was a member of two sites we sell to and still not totally pissed.

The teen market is about getting the babes up and little else.

The exclusive market is about adding a twist to the content,such as Bang Bus. Just shooting another teen exclusive on a bed with a dildo is just another teen with a dildo.

The cost of adding exclusive is going to mean you add 1/5 of what you could add non exclusive. Show me the surfer who wants to pay the same money for the same style of content and get 4/5 less for his money? Just the same girl on a different bed and different dildo most of the time. WOW that's really exclusive and he get's 1-3 sets like that a week. I add over 3 like that a day.

SM keep shooting for peanuts, we make more money from magazines than you make from exclusive, and mags are our second market.

Tony Montana · 05-22-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by charly

Well not exactly a cancellation more a non repeater. This is the email he sent, seems he screwed up cancelling the rebilling option.

We are way over 1,000 sign ups on www.paulmarkhamteens.com, and we just lost a rebill.

What's this I hear about exclusive is the only way to go?

Seems not to worry a lot of people. But this guy did come from an affiliate who has his own site mostly made up with our content.

The surfer said nothing about exlusive. He said the content is LIKE other sites. This means types of porn, fucking, poses, camera angles, ect...
Sheessshh

Snake Doctor · 05-22-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by charly

I never said that, I said I had my first cancellation and it was a bit of irony that I added he only cancelled the rebill.
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How can you cancel anything other than a rebill? You've already paid for everything up to that point.

You're saying only 5 people who have joined your site have cancelled, but you've done over 1000 signups and retain at 50%???

That's what Dubya would call "fuzzy math"

Paul Markham · 05-22-2005, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Montana

The surfer said nothing about exlusive. He said the content is LIKE other sites. This means types of porn, fucking, poses, camera angles, ect...
Sheessshh

Very true, he did say that. I as usual just assumed he meant he had seen it before.

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How can you cancel anything other than a rebill? You've already paid for everything up to that point.

You're saying only 5 people who have joined your site have cancelled, but you've done over 1000 signups and retain at 50%???

That's what Dubya would call "fuzzy math"

The cancellation bit was my sarcasm seems to have missed out on some.

Yes 50% stay for a monh or longer, seems the 3 new sets a day is what keeps them. Maybe we should move t up to 4 or 5 a day. Even 6 is possible.

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05-22-2005, 10:11 AM	#9
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	I think maybe he means it was the first cancellation they received where the reason for the cancellation was the non-exclusive content. I don't think he meant it was the first cancellation they ever received. If he did mean that then I better start promoting his site because he is sure doing something right. LOL.