Are there any US host planing on setting up shop outside of the US due to 2257? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

woj · 05-21-2005, 12:39 PM

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Quotealex · 05-21-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Your missing the point. The USA has to first issue a warrant for your arrest before any such action would even be discussed with a foreign government. They are not going to extradite you just so the USA can search your records. That's not going to happen and every country on earth would laugh at that request.

Just because you host, bill and live abroad does not mean your in trouble. You would first have to deny the USA access to your records. Then they would have to issue a warrant. Then they would have to negotiate with the government that controls the country you are in, bill in and host in... MAYBE they will assist the USA on such a bull shit matter. Maybe not.

There are plenty of countries that will not extradite people for rape and murder, they would laugh hysterically at the US request to do so over documents that may not even be illegal.

The bottom line is this. The porn industry will evolve over this and the smart hosting, billing and domain registrars who are not already overseas, will set up there to avoid this bullshit.

It's time for another step in porn evolution...

Bring it on.

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mardigras · 05-22-2005, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal

This is the kind of stuff I like to hear

Pick the answer you like the most and go with it

That's how I make all my decisions that could affect my future and freedom

05-22-2005, 05:36 AM

Is it worth even trying, just do everythiugn straight up

Quotealex · 05-22-2005, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by blueb8llz

Is it worth even trying, just do everythiugn straight up

How I can I?
Tracking getting the proper documents from all content brokers and sponsors (I'm not even sure if they'll find the documents for those content on their banners, HPA, FPA, etc.) I have on my servers is pretty much unthinkable and deleting pages after pages would most likely get my domains blacklisted....

romeoboi · 06-04-2005, 10:07 PM

I agree with Dirty White Boy - also...

unless you are a really big player or blatantly promoting and/or distributing underage content, the U.S. isnt going to bother figuring out whether a US citizen owns an offshore company with an offshore bank and offshore hosting.

I'm thinking about it for the future just for reasons of privacy and not wanting to deal with technicalities & the feds. I dont deal with anything illegal and Im not trying to get out of income taxes.

If almost every major US based multinational company has an offshore component that lets it do financial and business matters in a different way than they would be allowed to in the states, why cant webmasters?

FleshJoe2005 · 06-04-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MegaBondage

Did you happren to read his question?

I'm seriously considering moving my content sites out of servers located in the US du to this 2257. I wonder if US hosts will follow some of their clients and setup shops in more "porn friendlier" countries!

See where it says US

As in United States

Like yea know, United States of Crapmerica?

For anyone in the USA it doesnt matter where they send a server too or where it is hosted, IF THEY LIVE IN THE USA then they are affected by the law regardless of where the server/hosting company is at. If they live out of America but USE an American coproration to host their adult their site must still be compliant.

Megabondage

Just one correction -- a person outside the US, of non-US citizenship, can host a non-2257-compliant site on a US server. ISPs and service providers are exempt from the 2257 compliance requirements, so they're not responsible for sites owned by anyone, US citizens or not. The only one responsible is the actual owner of the site.

05-21-2005, 12:39 PM	#51
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05-22-2005, 05:36 AM	#54
blueb8llz Guest Posts: n/a	Is it worth even trying, just do everythiugn straight up