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Donny · 05-20-2005, 11:54 AM

Hello again. This is Donovan Phillips (as I'm sure you already figured out). I'd really like to go over a few things with all of my affiliates. Please allow me to ramble for a moment. I want to go over some numbers with you.

Starting with the last time I sent out a list of hosted galleries, I've been sending the galleries in the format you'll see below. You'll notice the url to each gallery starts with http://refer.ccbill.com/ . It's important that you notice this because your stats are going to be FUCKED UP a little compared to your stats with other sponsors. Why? Because my way counts EVERY click you send TO THE GALLERY. Almost EVERY OTHER SPONSOR counts only clicks FROM the gallery TO THEIR WEBSITE (and some of them only count part of those, but that's another story).

I've been in this business for a very long time now. I love statistics and know most of you do too. The problem is, I WANT THE REAL FUCKING NUMBERS, damn it! That's why I'm sending you my galleries in this format from now on.

If you've ever been a sponsor and offered hosted galleries, or if you have detailed stats on your tgps, I'm sure you've noticed that of all the visitors you send to a tgp gallery, only 2% to 5% of them click through to the actual site itself. Let me pause for a second and do some math for you now. I want to use nice, easy numbers so I'm going to say that a sponsor converts for you at 1:.350. For simplicity, let's split the 2% to 5% click through number right down the middle and say that 3.5% of surfers who visit galleries click through to the site itself. So for every 10,000 people you send to a tgp gallery 350 of them actually click through to the site, and ONE of them joins. Your stats show a conversion ratio of 1:350.

BUT if you are sending traffic to galleries the way I'm having you send them to mine, your stats would show 1:10,000 ratios instead of 1:350 ratios because ALL 10,000 CLICKS TO THE GALLERY ARE SHOWN. However, IN BOTH CASES your ACTUAL MONEY EARNED would be the exact same. My way just lets you see the exact number of people who left your site and clicked through to my gallery, instead of the number of people who clicked through from my gallery to my site.

Confused yet? If so please hit me up on ICQ: 92432224, email me, or call me at (530) 892-1805.

In the meantime, here are 30 something new galleries for you to promote my sites. Just replace the part that says 123456 with your own ccbill affiliate ID and you're set:

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../skylar040605/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...417/joy041105/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...7/karma041305/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...ellissa041405/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...justine042005/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...-cherry041705/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...brandie052205/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...jessica052105/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...4/AandJ042105/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...4/Amaya042005/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../Ashley042305/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...kyTommy042205/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...Charlie042405/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...4/Debbi042505/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...4/Ember042605/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...nCarlos042705/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...ennifer042805/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...4/Lilli042905/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...24/Lisa043005/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...4/Megan050105/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../Morgan050205/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...Rebecca050305/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...8/Amaya050805/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...8/Amber051005/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...ngelica051105/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...8/Erica051205/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../Jackie050905/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...-Cherry051305/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...8/Lilli051405/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...8/Malia051505/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...ck-Jenn051605/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...8/Sadie051705/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...08/Sara050405/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...onaChar050505/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../Summer050605/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../Tahnya050705/

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...Tiffany051805/

Thanks so much for being an affiliate. I really appreciate you.

Donovan Phillips
ICQ: 92432224

Elli · 05-20-2005, 11:59 AM

Makes sense to me. It's great for stats hounds, but I think it might scare the affiliates a bit to see their ratios change. You know how people never read announcement emails.

SquireMD · 05-20-2005, 12:01 PM

hi donny...good stuff...and justine is awesome

Sosa · 05-20-2005, 12:02 PM

looks fine

Donny · 05-20-2005, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli

Makes sense to me. It's great for stats hounds, but I think it might scare the affiliates a bit to see their ratios change. You know how people never read announcement emails.

Yeah, I'm afraid of that. But I'm gonna do it like this anyway. I think it provides the best possible numbers for affiliates, and that's what I'm all about.

Donny · 05-20-2005, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquireMD

hi donny...good stuff...and justine is awesome

Thanks for the compliment.

Justine IS pretty awesome, eh?

Elli · 05-20-2005, 12:20 PM

Well I hope it goes well for you

It'll be quite interesting to see.

Donny · 05-20-2005, 12:30 PM

I've distinguished these types of links from the more "traditional" types of links on DonnysMoney.com:

http://www.donnysmoney.com/hostedgalleries.htm

Theo · 05-20-2005, 12:34 PM

looks good to me

V_RocKs · 05-20-2005, 02:17 PM

It makes a TON of sense... Funny because I tried talking to another big sponsor who uses this method, ATKCash. They complain that TGP's have shitty ratios on their FHG. But they don't understand that we are counting EVERYONE. An affiliate who posts their gallery only counts those who click through to the sponsor. An SEO guy only counts who clicks through to the sponsor.

They think that because of the 1:10000 ratio, FHG's and TGP traffic isn't worth it. But like you just explained in plain 6th grade mathmatics, the money coming in is the same money. Just the clicks were different.

05-20-2005, 11:54 AM	#1
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	Please tell me if you understand this email to be sent to affiliates. Hello again. This is Donovan Phillips (as I'm sure you already figured out). I'd really like to go over a few things with all of my affiliates. Please allow me to ramble for a moment. I want to go over some numbers with you. Starting with the last time I sent out a list of hosted galleries, I've been sending the galleries in the format you'll see below. You'll notice the url to each gallery starts with http://refer.ccbill.com/ . It's important that you notice this because your stats are going to be FUCKED UP a little compared to your stats with other sponsors. Why? Because my way counts EVERY click you send TO THE GALLERY. Almost EVERY OTHER SPONSOR counts only clicks FROM the gallery TO THEIR WEBSITE (and some of them only count part of those, but that's another story). I've been in this business for a very long time now. I love statistics and know most of you do too. The problem is, I WANT THE REAL FUCKING NUMBERS, damn it! That's why I'm sending you my galleries in this format from now on. If you've ever been a sponsor and offered hosted galleries, or if you have detailed stats on your tgps, I'm sure you've noticed that of all the visitors you send to a tgp gallery, only 2% to 5% of them click through to the actual site itself. Let me pause for a second and do some math for you now. I want to use nice, easy numbers so I'm going to say that a sponsor converts for you at 1:.350. For simplicity, let's split the 2% to 5% click through number right down the middle and say that 3.5% of surfers who visit galleries click through to the site itself. So for every 10,000 people you send to a tgp gallery 350 of them actually click through to the site, and ONE of them joins. Your stats show a conversion ratio of 1:350. BUT if you are sending traffic to galleries the way I'm having you send them to mine, your stats would show 1:10,000 ratios instead of 1:350 ratios because ALL 10,000 CLICKS TO THE GALLERY ARE SHOWN. However, IN BOTH CASES your ACTUAL MONEY EARNED would be the exact same. My way just lets you see the exact number of people who left your site and clicked through to my gallery, instead of the number of people who clicked through from my gallery to my site. Confused yet? If so please hit me up on ICQ: 92432224, email me, or call me at (530) 892-1805. In the meantime, here are 30 something new galleries for you to promote my sites. Just replace the part that says 123456 with your own ccbill affiliate ID and you're set: http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../skylar040605/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...417/joy041105/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...7/karma041305/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...ellissa041405/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...justine042005/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...-cherry041705/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...brandie052205/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...jessica052105/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...4/AandJ042105/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...4/Amaya042005/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../Ashley042305/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...kyTommy042205/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...Charlie042405/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...4/Debbi042505/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...4/Ember042605/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...nCarlos042705/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...ennifer042805/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...4/Lilli042905/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...24/Lisa043005/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...4/Megan050105/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../Morgan050205/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...Rebecca050305/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...8/Amaya050805/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...8/Amber051005/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...ngelica051105/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...8/Erica051205/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../Jackie050905/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...-Cherry051305/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...8/Lilli051405/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...8/Malia051505/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...ck-Jenn051605/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...8/Sadie051705/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...08/Sara050405/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...onaChar050505/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../Summer050605/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic.../Tahnya050705/ http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...Tiffany051805/ Thanks so much for being an affiliate. I really appreciate you. Donovan Phillips ICQ: 92432224

05-20-2005, 11:59 AM	#2
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Makes sense to me. It's great for stats hounds, but I think it might scare the affiliates a bit to see their ratios change. You know how people never read announcement emails. __________________ email: [email protected]

05-20-2005, 12:20 PM	#7
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Well I hope it goes well for you It'll be quite interesting to see. __________________ email: [email protected]

05-20-2005, 12:01 PM	#3
SquireMD ICQ # 229-616-436 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Land of Marion Barry Posts: 794	hi donny...good stuff...and justine is awesome

05-20-2005, 12:02 PM	#4
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	looks fine

05-20-2005, 12:30 PM	#8
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	I've distinguished these types of links from the more "traditional" types of links on DonnysMoney.com: http://www.donnysmoney.com/hostedgalleries.htm

05-20-2005, 12:34 PM	#9
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	looks good to me

05-20-2005, 02:17 PM	#10
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,421	It makes a TON of sense... Funny because I tried talking to another big sponsor who uses this method, ATKCash. They complain that TGP's have shitty ratios on their FHG. But they don't understand that we are counting EVERYONE. An affiliate who posts their gallery only counts those who click through to the sponsor. An SEO guy only counts who clicks through to the sponsor. They think that because of the 1:10000 ratio, FHG's and TGP traffic isn't worth it. But like you just explained in plain 6th grade mathmatics, the money coming in is the same money. Just the clicks were different.