I just joined the Free Speech Coalition - GoFuckYourself.com

xxxjay · 05-20-2005, 05:01 AM

Even though the FSC's chairman, Jeffery Douglas, is my lawyer for JQMedia. I figures that I would step up to the plate and formally join the FSC. All you other guys sitting on the sidelines should do this as well. The FSC is the only organization with enough teeth to put up a good fight with all of this impending obscenity /2257 shit.

Don't sit on the sidelines and wait for someone else to do it. Step up and fight these bastards...it will be easier and less expensive then trying to do it from the confines of Federal Lockup.

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com

Join, donate, and do something now!

Nicky · 05-20-2005, 05:25 AM

good move Jay

PlugRush Sascha · 05-20-2005, 05:27 AM

Definitely worth joining.

slapass · 05-20-2005, 06:42 AM

Thanks for the heads up jay. I joined too.

slapass · 05-20-2005, 06:50 AM

What the heck is a customer code?? It went through but no idea what that was.

guschi2k · 05-20-2005, 06:56 AM

yeah, i'm having the same prob. whats that customer code ??? the 3digit csv number ?

Gramma · 05-20-2005, 06:58 AM

in my case - i put the code on the back of my cc card

i was hoping for some discussion on their forum - but the registration link for it is broken - anyone know their webmaster?

Redrob · 05-20-2005, 07:53 AM

The CSV code is a three digit code printed on the back of your credit card after the cc number usually on the signature panel.

Congrats on doing the right thing and welcome aboard.

xxxjay · 05-21-2005, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

The CSV code is a three digit code printed on the back of your credit card after the cc number usually on the signature panel.

Congrats on doing the right thing and welcome aboard.

Yeah, it's the 3 number code on the back of your card...it is a confusing name for it. Their is actually quite a good bit of good resources in the members area... I was quite impressed.

baddog · 05-21-2005, 04:15 AM

If you donate $100 or more to the Free Speech Coalition, ContentShopper will give you a free button for 3 months (a $300 value).

So, if you need an excuse to donate, now you have one.

Jay, if you want to send your button and linking info to [email protected], I will get yours up.

RevSand · 05-21-2005, 04:20 AM

I joined also a few days ago.. Its deff well worth it no matter what size website you run. These are the people who are stepping up to watch all of our asses on this..

erehwon · 05-21-2005, 04:38 AM

Screw it, next batch of checks that come in are going to the FSC, I really belive that those that don't want to comply with the new regulations might be part of the next round-up mentioned here.

opflix · 05-21-2005, 07:43 AM

i just joined... (300US annually), FYI for FSC, your forms have a problem with FireFox... might want to work that out. good luck & i appreciate you takin the fight to'em for us

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Hinc · 05-21-2005, 08:03 AM

Hmmm better look at joining. A good and just cause.

slapass · 05-21-2005, 08:10 AM

I emialed them about the code thing and switching it to cvv. They also mentioned that all info provided is kept private. I just did not want to see a members list published.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-21-2005, 08:13 AM

I also looked at your site, noticed the FSC banner as well;)

Excellent

FSC are some great people, they have always done a great job for this industry. They literally need everyones help.

Nysus · 05-21-2005, 09:31 AM

I highly suggest everyone tell everyone they know in adult about this thread and / or about the Free Speech Coalition, and also get them to read their May 18th press release;

"TRADE GROUP TO CHALLENGE NEW SECTION 2257 RULES
May 18, 2005
Free Speech Coalition, the adult entertainment trade association, announced plans today to file a legal challenge to the Justice Department?s new rules for enforcement of the Federal Labeling and Recordkeeping Law known as 18 U.S.C. Section 2257.

?Just as we feared,? FSC Executive Director Michelle Freridge said, ?Attorney General Gonzales has signed a final rule implementing the new provisions of the Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act. We are prepared to challenge these unconstitutional and burdensome regulations in court.?

The law requires producers of sexually explicit material to maintain records proving that performers in those depictions are not minors, but the detailed and extensive records that the law requires create a daunting record-keeping task, particularly when applied to the Internet. And the penalties are harsh. Even with no minors involved in the production - indeed, even if all performers are over 40 -- a first-offense paperwork error can still mean five years in federal prison.

Although FSC is on record in strong opposition to the use of minors in sexual material, Freridge said these new regulations go too far. According to Freridge, the proposed guidelines, which were initially released to the public in August of 2004, go beyond reasonable administrative requirements and create an excessively burdensome paperwork system that may violate the privacy rights and personal safety of performers. On a practical level, many producers would find it difficult to comply with the highly technical requirements.

?In addition, we really need to examine the impact of the new regulations on webmasters, since internet content is apparently going to be the focus of the new DOJ task force,? suggested Larry Walters, a well known First Amendment attorney who represents a number of adult webmasters and internet companies and is a member of FSC?s Internet Committee.

?Under the current unfriendly administration,? Freridge commented, ?The law would become a tool for selective enforcement by the Justice Department and a technical trap for legal adult businesses that have no connection whatsoever to child pornography.?

FSC intends to test the validity of the new rules by filing multiple lawsuits, asking for a temporary restraining order and an injunction. By taking swift proactive steps, FSC hopes to protect its members from prosecution, while challenging the law as unconstitutional.

To view the proposed guidelines released to the public in 2004, as well as FSC?s response to those guidelines, visit www.freespeechcoalition.com The version signed by Attorney General Gonzales today will be published in the Federal Register soon, and available on the FSC website shortly thereafter.

Free Speech Coalition is the trade organization of the adult entertainment industry. Its mission is to safeguard the industry from oppressive governmental regulation and to promote good business practices within the industry."

Matt

Major (Tom) · 05-21-2005, 10:00 AM

we joined just the other day!

thumbs up Jay!'

Duke

dready · 05-21-2005, 10:05 AM

The form doesn't work with Firefox, doesn't accept alpha-numeric postal codes, and the CVV description is confusing, but we're all smart people.

Just us IE, and use 90210 as a postal code.

opflix · 05-21-2005, 11:04 AM

also, i don't get a confirmation email after joining... is that just me? lmk

..

J$tyle$ · 05-21-2005, 03:55 PM

Good move Jay!!!

If you're having ANY TROUBLE with the forms for any reason CONTACT the FSC directly http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/contact.htm and work it out ... don't give up

AND BUMP THIS THREAD TOO!!!

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=469324

Fake Nick · 05-21-2005, 03:56 PM

slapass · 05-21-2005, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fake Nick

You love that fish image.

UniversalPassLorence · 05-21-2005, 07:41 PM

Got to ban together

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-21-2005, 07:44 PM

This is spookie fucken shit.

?Under the current unfriendly administration,? Freridge commented, ?The law would become a tool for selective enforcement by the Justice Department and a technical trap for legal adult businesses that have no connection whatsoever to child pornography.?

Yup...
Secret ambushes and gestapo tactics in rushing people to prison in a private war against civilians.

xxxjay · 05-22-2005, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

This is spookie fucken shit.

?Under the current unfriendly administration,? Freridge commented, ?The law would become a tool for selective enforcement by the Justice Department and a technical trap for legal adult businesses that have no connection whatsoever to child pornography.?

Yup...
Secret ambushes and gestapo tactics in rushing people to prison in a private war against civilians.

It's some old Capone shit and they know it. They have been trying to get obscenity cases for years - everyone from Lenny Bruce to Howard Stern and they can't do it.

Really, this is desparation on the part of the DOJ, they've tried to prosecute obscenity 9000 different ways and they can't do it, so they have to resort to some below the belt shit. It's sad really.

05-20-2005, 05:01 AM	#1
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	I just joined the Free Speech Coalition Even though the FSC's chairman, Jeffery Douglas, is my lawyer for JQMedia. I figures that I would step up to the plate and formally join the FSC. All you other guys sitting on the sidelines should do this as well. The FSC is the only organization with enough teeth to put up a good fight with all of this impending obscenity /2257 shit. Don't sit on the sidelines and wait for someone else to do it. Step up and fight these bastards...it will be easier and less expensive then trying to do it from the confines of Federal Lockup. http://www.freespeechcoalition.com Join, donate, and do something now! __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

05-20-2005, 05:25 AM	#2
Nicky Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,070	good move Jay __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

05-20-2005, 05:27 AM	#3
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05-20-2005, 06:56 AM	#6
guschi2k Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: ...blablablabla... Posts: 489	yeah, i'm having the same prob. whats that customer code ??? the 3digit csv number ? __________________ $$$ PimpRoll converts like a mofu, don't miss out on this shit $$$

05-21-2005, 04:20 AM	#11
RevSand Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Porn Valley Posts: 8,151	I joined also a few days ago.. Its deff well worth it no matter what size website you run. These are the people who are stepping up to watch all of our asses on this.. __________________ BadBitchesGoodWeed Hire me for all your video shooting needs!! Skype = RevSandx

05-20-2005, 06:42 AM	#4
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	Thanks for the heads up jay. I joined too.

05-20-2005, 06:50 AM	#5
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	What the heck is a customer code?? It went through but no idea what that was.

05-20-2005, 06:58 AM	#7
Gramma Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 402	in my case - i put the code on the back of my cc card i was hoping for some discussion on their forum - but the registration link for it is broken - anyone know their webmaster?

05-20-2005, 07:53 AM	#8
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	The CSV code is a three digit code printed on the back of your credit card after the cc number usually on the signature panel. Congrats on doing the right thing and welcome aboard.

05-21-2005, 04:15 AM	#10
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	If you donate $100 or more to the Free Speech Coalition, ContentShopper will give you a free button for 3 months (a $300 value). So, if you need an excuse to donate, now you have one. Jay, if you want to send your button and linking info to [email protected], I will get yours up.

05-21-2005, 04:38 AM	#12
erehwon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: A secure undisclosed location... Posts: 3,759	Screw it, next batch of checks that come in are going to the FSC, I really belive that those that don't want to comply with the new regulations might be part of the next round-up mentioned here. __________________ Money NEVER $leep$...

05-21-2005, 07:43 AM	#13
opflix Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: HELL Posts: 1,428	i just joined... (300US annually), FYI for FSC, your forms have a problem with FireFox... might want to work that out. good luck & i appreciate you takin the fight to'em for us ... __________________ Social Escrow - Buying & Selling Accounts? Contact Me \| Social Escrow IG

05-21-2005, 08:03 AM	#14
Hinc Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,577	Hmmm better look at joining. A good and just cause. __________________ webmaster @ adultlist. com AdultList.com - Directory Listings, Advertisements, Hardlinks Loasex.com - Directory and old school TGP - taking submits A few sales/opportunities: High Quality Guest Posts For Sale Network of Aged sites for sales. Get in touch on the email above for info.

05-21-2005, 08:10 AM	#15
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	I emialed them about the code thing and switching it to cvv. They also mentioned that all info provided is kept private. I just did not want to see a members list published.

05-21-2005, 08:13 AM	#16
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	I also looked at your site, noticed the FSC banner as well;) Excellent FSC are some great people, they have always done a great job for this industry. They literally need everyones help. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 05-21-2005 at 08:15 AM..

05-21-2005, 09:31 AM	#17
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	I highly suggest everyone tell everyone they know in adult about this thread and / or about the Free Speech Coalition, and also get them to read their May 18th press release; "TRADE GROUP TO CHALLENGE NEW SECTION 2257 RULES May 18, 2005 Free Speech Coalition, the adult entertainment trade association, announced plans today to file a legal challenge to the Justice Department?s new rules for enforcement of the Federal Labeling and Recordkeeping Law known as 18 U.S.C. Section 2257. ?Just as we feared,? FSC Executive Director Michelle Freridge said, ?Attorney General Gonzales has signed a final rule implementing the new provisions of the Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act. We are prepared to challenge these unconstitutional and burdensome regulations in court.? The law requires producers of sexually explicit material to maintain records proving that performers in those depictions are not minors, but the detailed and extensive records that the law requires create a daunting record-keeping task, particularly when applied to the Internet. And the penalties are harsh. Even with no minors involved in the production - indeed, even if all performers are over 40 -- a first-offense paperwork error can still mean five years in federal prison. Although FSC is on record in strong opposition to the use of minors in sexual material, Freridge said these new regulations go too far. According to Freridge, the proposed guidelines, which were initially released to the public in August of 2004, go beyond reasonable administrative requirements and create an excessively burdensome paperwork system that may violate the privacy rights and personal safety of performers. On a practical level, many producers would find it difficult to comply with the highly technical requirements. ?In addition, we really need to examine the impact of the new regulations on webmasters, since internet content is apparently going to be the focus of the new DOJ task force,? suggested Larry Walters, a well known First Amendment attorney who represents a number of adult webmasters and internet companies and is a member of FSC?s Internet Committee. ?Under the current unfriendly administration,? Freridge commented, ?The law would become a tool for selective enforcement by the Justice Department and a technical trap for legal adult businesses that have no connection whatsoever to child pornography.? FSC intends to test the validity of the new rules by filing multiple lawsuits, asking for a temporary restraining order and an injunction. By taking swift proactive steps, FSC hopes to protect its members from prosecution, while challenging the law as unconstitutional. To view the proposed guidelines released to the public in 2004, as well as FSC?s response to those guidelines, visit www.freespeechcoalition.com The version signed by Attorney General Gonzales today will be published in the Federal Register soon, and available on the FSC website shortly thereafter. Free Speech Coalition is the trade organization of the adult entertainment industry. Its mission is to safeguard the industry from oppressive governmental regulation and to promote good business practices within the industry." Matt __________________ What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html

05-21-2005, 10:00 AM	#18
Major (Tom) White Pride Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 31,220	we joined just the other day! thumbs up Jay!' Duke __________________ WHITE LIVES MATTER

05-21-2005, 10:05 AM	#19
dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	The form doesn't work with Firefox, doesn't accept alpha-numeric postal codes, and the CVV description is confusing, but we're all smart people. Just us IE, and use 90210 as a postal code. __________________ ICQ: 91139591

05-21-2005, 11:04 AM	#20
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05-21-2005, 03:55 PM	#21
J$tyle$ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 11,500	Good move Jay!!! If you're having ANY TROUBLE with the forms for any reason CONTACT the FSC directly http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/contact.htm and work it out ... don't give up AND BUMP THIS THREAD TOO!!! http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=469324

05-21-2005, 03:56 PM	#22
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05-21-2005, 07:44 PM	#25
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	This is spookie fucken shit. ?Under the current unfriendly administration,? Freridge commented, ?The law would become a tool for selective enforcement by the Justice Department and a technical trap for legal adult businesses that have no connection whatsoever to child pornography.? Yup... Secret ambushes and gestapo tactics in rushing people to prison in a private war against civilians. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|