Yo! Is this shit for real??? U.S. sterilized people ? - GoFuckYourself.com

Greg B · 05-16-2005, 10:53 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Health/story?id=708780

This is about as fucked up a story as you can read. It says that the U.S. Government allowed secret sterilizations of people considered 'undesirables'. Who the fuck is an undesirable?

The program supposedly stopped 30 years ago but the ramifications are tremendous.

Should these people be compensated?

pornguy · 05-16-2005, 10:59 PM

This is one of those things that will come out that happened in many many places.

The best thing to do is move on with life, and try to make sure that it never happens again. And paying them, will NOT stop it from happeneing again.

dunefield · 05-16-2005, 11:01 PM

yes it did happen... it was pretty much to minorities though...

Greg B · 05-16-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dunefield

yes it did happen... it was pretty much to minorities though...

Now wait a minute! This has got to be a bullshit story. There's no way that shit could have gone on that long and no one noticed. That shit is so beyond a violation of their Constitutional rights there ain't enough money in the world to compensate those people for!

Each of these people is a billion dollar lawsuit EASY. There's no contest! It's too bizarre to believe.

BRISK · 05-16-2005, 11:12 PM

Do a Google search for the Buck v. Bell Supreme Court case

cool1g · 05-16-2005, 11:26 PM

i think that stuff happened like 50 years ago....back then you think anyone had a moral problem with sterilizing mentally ill people????

GatorB · 05-16-2005, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg B

Now wait a minute! This has got to be a bullshit story. There's no way that shit could have gone on that long and no one noticed. That shit is so beyond a violation of their Constitutional rights there ain't enough money in the world to compensate those people for!

Each of these people is a billion dollar lawsuit EASY. There's no contest! It's too bizarre to believe.

Listen the government has admited to infecting black men with syphillis and not telling them for years. Developing LSD and giving it to their own soldiers for testing without their knowlegde, and injecting citizens with radioactive materials back in the 40's and 50's

Mike Okitch · 05-16-2005, 11:57 PM

The same country that imported Africans for slavery, killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese with nukes, and placed puppet regimes all over the world? Nah, they couldn't possibly have done that.

ArikaAmes · 05-16-2005, 11:58 PM

Wow, that is something new to me. I don't think it's right that they did it and didn't tell them, however the other side of me thinks they should still do it to many people b/c so many just shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. Harsh but true.

GatorB · 05-17-2005, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Okitch

The same country that imported Africans for slavery, killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese with nukes, and placed puppet regimes all over the world? Nah, they couldn't possibly have done that.

Well as far as Japan we were at war with them. They started it. Thousands of civilians in Germany were killed by our bombs but it's what had ot be done back then. Not to metion towards the end of the war the Japs had plans to fly balloons across the ocean filled with deadly biological orginisms and have the explode over the US.

You alos forgot to mention the American Indians who were nearly wiped out and the rest put into concentration camps errr I mean "reservations"

goBigtime · 05-17-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg B

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Health/story?id=708780
Who the fuck is an undesirable?

Usually blacks, gays, or (non corporate/pharmaceutical) drug users?

At least the tests in the late 70's would suggest that....
http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/t.../hivconsp.html

Or maybe the tuskegee syphillis experiement will help you get a better idea:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762136.html

Mike Okitch · 05-17-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Well as far as Japan we were at war with them. They started it. Thousands of civilians in Germany were killed by our bombs but it's what had ot be done back then. Not to metion towards the end of the war the Japs had plans to fly balloons across the ocean filled with deadly biological orginisms and have the explode over the US.

You alos forgot to mention the American Indians who were nearly wiped out and the rest put into concentration camps errr I mean "reservations"

Yes, Gator, you're right. But you obviously get my point.

I was being sarcastic. Of course the U.S. has done this. And it's not the only country that has done it.

Zester · 05-17-2005, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg B

Now wait a minute! This has got to be a bullshit story. There's no way that shit could have gone on that long and no one noticed. That shit is so beyond a violation of their Constitutional rights there ain't enough money in the world to compensate those people for!

Each of these people is a billion dollar lawsuit EASY. There's no contest! It's too bizarre to believe.

what he said X 10

Greg B · 05-17-2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Okitch

The same country that imported Africans for slavery, killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese with nukes, and placed puppet regimes all over the world? Nah, they couldn't possibly have done that.

Look, the U.S. didn't import slaves from Africa. That shit was in full swing 3 to 4 hundred years BEFORE there was a U.S. and at that it took the U.S. less than 100 years after it's birth to end slavery after a vicious battle within itself.

Sure the U.S. has done some evil shit but ... okay, now that I look at it I can see how and why it occured. The story is true according to some news pals of mine and as bizarre as it seems it's one of who knows how many stories where evil fucks used government offices and resources to commit heinous crimes against citizens.

It's just that outside of out and out murdering of someone's kids, sterilizing them is some evil fucking shit bar fucking none.

If that shit had happened to me no one on mother fucking earth would be able to sleep at night.

I'm sorry but this fucking story just beats all to heck as the end of any shape or form of trust in government.

Donny · 05-17-2005, 03:14 PM

Too bad they can't secretly start doing that again. I'd love to have quite a few people sterilized.

leedsfan · 05-17-2005, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

Too bad they can't secretly start doing that again. I'd love to have quite a few people sterilized.

too bad they didnt get to your mother in time.

xxxdesign-net · 05-17-2005, 03:30 PM

Mmmh.. maybe in couple of years.. we'll hear that the US government brought crack to black ghettos....

05-17-2005, 03:31 PM

it can be

Sarah_Jayne · 05-17-2005, 03:37 PM

yup...there was a show on the BBC about it a couple years ago

GatorB · 05-17-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg B

Look, the U.S. didn't import slaves from Africa. That shit was in full swing 3 to 4 hundred years BEFORE there was a U.S. and at that it took the U.S. less than 100 years after it's birth to end slavery after a vicious battle within itself.

OK first of all the US was founded in 1776 and 300 years before 1776 is 1476 and Columbus didn't reach the West Indies until 1492. Slaverly in what is now the US didn't start until the late 1600's and the US did in fact import slaves. Even up until the 1840's the southern states were still bringing in slaves from Africa.

wjxxx · 05-17-2005, 03:44 PM

http://www.ncpa.org/pi/internat/pdinter/pdint178.html

12clicks · 05-17-2005, 06:31 PM

the evil US also poked holes in the ozone and feed babies to aliens.

Rich · 05-17-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg B

Now wait a minute! This has got to be a bullshit story. There's no way that shit could have gone on that long and no one noticed. That shit is so beyond a violation of their Constitutional rights there ain't enough money in the world to compensate those people for!

Each of these people is a billion dollar lawsuit EASY. There's no contest! It's too bizarre to believe.

This is very far from the worst crime the US government has committed against its people.

Rich · 05-17-2005, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

the evil US also poked holes in the ozone and feed babies to aliens.

You're like a kid talking about his mother. A kid in the remedial class.

blah blah blah the US never does anything wrong... hopefully one day you'll wake up and realize how fucking stupid you are. I won't hold my breath.

Mike Okitch · 05-17-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

OK first of all the US was founded in 1776 and 300 years before 1776 is 1476 and Columbus didn't reach the West Indies until 1492. Slaverly in what is now the US didn't start until the late 1600's and the US did in fact import slaves. Even up until the 1840's the southern states were still bringing in slaves from Africa.

I was about to say that but you beat me to the punch.

12clicks · 05-17-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich

You're like a kid talking about his mother. A kid in the remedial class.

blah blah blah the US never does anything wrong... hopefully one day you'll wake up and realize how fucking stupid you are. I won't hold my breath.

ahahaha, have another drink and stew over your bitter little life.

what's it like living in a third world country explaining how those of us living in the US are really missing out by not wallowing in the sespool that is canada.

reynold · 05-17-2005, 07:38 PM

It's weird science men!
It's everybody's right to create an image of themselves--a bit of their immortality..Lols!
Anyway, nice thread!Thanx a lot!

xxxdesign-net · 05-17-2005, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

the evil US also poked holes in the ozone and feed babies to aliens.

your blind faith in your goverment is quite amusing... You remind me of religious zealots ... Shady characters like Cheney and Rumsfeld must be loving sheeps like you.. I bet they can have your full and blind support when they'll decide to invade Iran ?

bringer · 05-17-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg B

Should these people be compensated?

like who? their kids? oh wait....

XAKEP · 05-17-2005, 07:51 PM

Zester · 05-18-2005, 11:27 PM

this is the most pissing off stuff i've read in 3 years
those guys should be in jail, they murderd babies before they were born

how would you feel if this was done to you ? really try to imagine it and tell me how you would feel

Pornwolf · 05-19-2005, 12:29 AM

After watching about 2 episodes of Jerry Springer you will start to think this sterilization of America's trash, black and white, is probably a good idea.

bringer · 05-19-2005, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Zester

this is the most pissing off stuff i've read in 3 years
those guys should be in jail, they murderd babies before they were born

how would you feel if this was done to you ? really try to imagine it and tell me how you would feel

yeah, its only ok after conception

12clicks · 05-19-2005, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

your blind faith in your goverment is quite amusing... You remind me of religious zealots ... Shady characters like Cheney and Rumsfeld must be loving sheeps like you.. I bet they can have your full and blind support when they'll decide to invade Iran ?

hahaha, yeah. you're the smart one.

ColBigBalls · 05-19-2005, 07:41 AM

That type of shit has been going on all over the world for hundreds of years, be it by a government, monarchy, or due to religion. I believe here in Canada early in the 19th century they sterilized the mentally handicap. Humanity has been doing fucked up shit to it self for 1000's of years and still does

psili · 05-19-2005, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ColBigBalls

That type of shit has been going on all over the world for hundreds of years, be it by a government, monarchy, or due to religion. I believe here in Canada early in the 19th century they sterilized the mentally handicap. Humanity has been doing fucked up shit to it self for 1000's of years and still does

Thanks for saying that.

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I wish most of you fuckers would stop discriminating against a certain country, culture, race or religion and grow the fuck up to realize HUMANITY is fucked up as a whole.
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Sorry. Had to let it out.

MandyBlake · 05-19-2005, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dunefield

yes it did happen... it was pretty much to minorities though...

does that make it right?

Greg B · 05-19-2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

OK first of all the US was founded in 1776 and 300 years before 1776 is 1476 and Columbus didn't reach the West Indies until 1492. Slaverly in what is now the US didn't start until the late 1600's and the US did in fact import slaves. Even up until the 1840's the southern states were still bringing in slaves from Africa.

1776 was a formality of establishment. The US didn't get officially started until Britain was defeated. So 1780+ is more like it. But what I was referring to was the pan-african and pan-European slave trade. That shit WAS going on 3-400 years before the U.S.. Columbus wuddn't the first to get here and slavery didn't start with Columbus.

The founding fathers knew damn well if they abolished slavery in the southern states they wouldn't have the textile and agricultural support to defeat the King. So in the Southern colonies slavery was still in effect but in the northern colonies it had ended. Matter of fact the first man credited with being killed in the fight against King George was a freed black slave named Crispus Attucks.

Notice I said freed 'black' slave. There were many, many european slaves and indentured servants let me tell you!

People to this day are still being 'kidnapped' and brought into this country for slave labor. The difference is the chains are psychological not metal.

Greg B · 05-19-2005, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf

After watching about 2 episodes of Jerry Springer you will start to think this sterilization of America's trash, black and white, is probably a good idea.

That is too funny this early in the morning

xxxdesign-net · 05-19-2005, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

hahaha, yeah. you're the smart one.

Sheeps have a common characteristic.. they live in perpetual denial once they have found their sheppard.. They probably find it very comforting actually...

jonpotz · 05-19-2005, 09:11 AM

in my small town, its our town council's policy to sterilize the second newborn of every family unless you have two boys.

if you have a boy girl or girl boy or girl girl then the second child is sterilized.

i was child number one but my brother got it done. you learn to deal with it.

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jonpotz Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 960	in my small town, its our town council's policy to sterilize the second newborn of every family unless you have two boys. if you have a boy girl or girl boy or girl girl then the second child is sterilized. i was child number one but my brother got it done. you learn to deal with it.