FACT: you are more likely to be shot & killed in DC than in Iraq

[CDSmith]

If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in-theater in Iraq during the last 22 months, that gives a firearms death rate of 60 per 100,000.

The rate in Washington DC is 80.6 per 100,000.

That means that you are more likely to be shot and killed in the Nation's Capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.


Conclusion: you should immediately pull out of Washington, D.C.

[KMR Stitch]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in-theater in Iraq during the last 22 months, that gives a firearms death rate of 60 per 100,000.

The rate in Washington DC is 80.6 per 100,000.

That means that you are more likely to be shot and killed in the Nation's Capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.


Conclusion: you should immediately pull out of Washington, D.C.

where did you get this poll from?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

That couldnt be right LOL!

[bringer]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in-theater in Iraq during the last 22 months, that gives a firearms death rate of 60 per 100,000.

The rate in Washington DC is 80.6 per 100,000.

That means that you are more likely to be shot and killed in the Nation's Capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.


Conclusion: you should immediately pull out of Washington, D.C.

thats impossible! if theres strict gun control how do the criminals get them?

[naughty_weena]

hmm, interesting...

[chadglni]

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

where did you get this poll from?

Poll? It's the death rate by location and government propaganda at work.

[CDSmith]

Ir arrived in my inbox yesterday morning at 8:27 am, lovingly wrapped with care and ensconsed in velvet, within the confines of a joke email. :D


I had to share.

Had to.

Just had to.

[spunkmaster]

Actually there have been about 600,000 troops who have served in Iraq with 1600 killed !

Do the numbers on this and it's safer then 99% of all major cities in the world !

[Triple 6]

thats pretty interesting

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by bringer

thats impossible! if theres strict gun control how do the criminals get them?

Now you're starting to clue in.

Gun control doesn't disarm criminals, it disarms law-abiding society.

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by spunkmaster

Actually there have been about 600,000 troops who have served in Iraq with 1600 killed !

Do the numbers on this and it's safer then 99% of all major cities in the world !

Look closer at my post... the 160,000 figure is the average over the duration.

600k may be the total, but 160k is the average.

And you are correct..... except for Winnipeg. Here we have on average about 25 murders per year, not all of them gun-related.

[bringer]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Now you're starting to clue in.

Gun control doesn't disarm criminals, it disarms law-abiding society.

thats why its fun to listen to idiots wanting to ban guns
i usually tell him "excuse me, i need to call my illegal mexican workers and have them water my coca field. cocaine harvest is looking promissing this year!"

[kenny]

D.C. is such a crackhead invested slum. You'd think they try and fix that problem being it's the nations capitol and all.

[eroswebmaster]

Not surprising...I remember back in the day it was safer to walk the West Bank than it was to walk through parts of South Central..statistically of course.

[pr0]

yup...thats life in the big city of d.c.

[After Shock Media]

I am pretty sure I am more likely to be blown up and killed in Iraq though.

What I would like to see is the number of US troops that have been on tour in Iraq, then the total number of injuries and fatalities, then arive at what percent of the population will suffer each. Then compare that to the cities.

[BoNgHiTtA]

I grew up in DC, and I can tell you that its terrible there. I remember partying at a club called buzz, it was in Anacosta, and I was outside, and heard an automatic go off.

Great city.. I got the fuck out as fast as possible

[421Fill]

hmm, wouldn't that have something to do with the fact that the troops in Iraq are trained to defend themselves, whereas, the average murder victim is not?

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by turbo

hmm, wouldn't that have something to do with the fact that the troops in Iraq are trained to defend themselves, whereas, the average murder victim is not?

They also travel in packs, sometimes armored and all the time with assault riffles, gernades, many other things that go boom, and have additional support often.
Where as if someone begins shooting in DC well odds are I nor my friends are packing and there is no backup.

[Kirsten]

Or you could come to Canada where its safe

[Digipimp]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in-theater in Iraq during the last 22 months, that gives a firearms death rate of 60 per 100,000.

The rate in Washington DC is 80.6 per 100,000.

That means that you are more likely to be shot and killed in the Nation's Capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.


Conclusion: you should immediately pull out of Washington, D.C.

what if you're an iraqi in iraq? if they rolled around dc in flack jackets, helmets, hummers and tanks they probably wouldn't get killed, just shot at.

[421Fill]

Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi

They also travel in packs, sometimes armored and all the time with assault riffles, gernades, many other things that go boom, and have additional support often.
Where as if someone begins shooting in DC well odds are I nor my friends are packing and there is no backup.

yeah, that too

[JFK]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in-theater in Iraq during the last 22 months, that gives a firearms death rate of 60 per 100,000.

The rate in Washington DC is 80.6 per 100,000.

That means that you are more likely to be shot and killed in the Nation's Capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.


Conclusion: you should immediately pull out of Washington, D.C.

Very interesting, but I have been to DC quite a number of times and I am here to talk about it. However you wont find me anywhere near Iraq

[BRISK]

It's a shame that a nation's capital has so much crime and homelessness

[kenny]

Originally Posted by Kirsten

Or you could come to Canada where its safe

And cold

[BRISK]

Originally Posted by kenny

And cold

I've lived in both countries, and Washington DC has colder winters than Vancouver, Canada

[slapass]

You guys are nuts. The figures were bad.

"DC IS AGAIN 'MURDER CAPITAL', NEW STUDY SHOW"
"DC, by comparison, with nearly 600,000 residents, had 262 murders last year."

And in my state we can carry openly anywhere we want so DC having strict laws probably means very little. And what they have are probably not enforced.

[slapass]

2004 stats -

"Elsewhere, Washington, D.C., was on track to see one of its lowest murder rates in recent years. Through Monday, homicides totaled 193, compared to 240 at the same point in 2003."

[mardigras]

It skews the numbers comparing DC to all of Iraq then comparing civilian deaths to military ones. Take one of the insurgent areas with a population close to the size of DC and put U.S. 100 soldiers on the streets in both there and in D.C. then crunch those numbers again after few months

[Dirty Dane]

I'd rather go unarmed in WDC than unarmed in Fallujah

[dready]

Yes, I'd like to see those Iraq numbers include civilians... then I bet Washington will look like Canada...

In 2002, the murder rate held steady at 24 murders per million people in Toronto -- while, in 2002, Chicago experienced 229 murders per million people.

[fl_prn_str]

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

where did you get this poll from?

is this the Barry admin of the "good times" in DC or of the current Mayor Anthony A. Williams?

I was under the impression that the stats in DC were on the decline.

[stev0]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Now you're starting to clue in.

Gun control doesn't disarm criminals, it disarms law-abiding society.

Law obiding citizens don't need guns... it only increases your chances of dying in an encounter.

[sixxxthsense]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in-theater in Iraq during the last 22 months, that gives a firearms death rate of 60 per 100,000.

The rate in Washington DC is 80.6 per 100,000.

That means that you are more likely to be shot and killed in the Nation's Capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.


Conclusion: you should immediately pull out of Washington, D.C.

Fact CNN reports 1 out of 100 casulties in Iraq.

Where did you come up with this numbers?
What's wrong with my Fact?
What about disabilities?

[dready]

Nation________________Year___Homicide_Rate per_100,000 population
__________________________________________
South_Africa__________1995___________75.30
Colombia______________1996___________64.60
Colombia______________2000___________59.__
Latin_America_________1994___________28.4
Estonia_______________1994___________28.21
Brazil________________2002___________27.__
Brazil________________1993___________19.04
Mexico________________1994___________17.58
Philippines___________1996___________16.20
Taiwan________________1996____________8.12
N._Ireland____________1994____________6.09
United_States_________2000____________6.1_
Argentina_____________1994____________4.51
Hungary_______________1994____________3.53
Finland_______________1994____________3.24
Portugal______________1994____________2.98
Mauritius_____________1993____________2.35
Israel________________1993____________2.32
Scotland______________1994____________2.24
Canada________________1996____________2.1_
Slovenia______________1994____________2.01
Australia_____________1994____________1.86
Singapore_____________1994____________1.71
France________________1998____________1.64
South_Korea___________1994____________1.62
Italy_________________1998____________1.54
Australia_____________1998____________1.5_
New_Zealand___________1993____________1.47
Belgium_______________1990____________1.41
England_and_Wales_____1998____________1.30
Sweden________________1993____________1.30
Denmark_______________1993____________1.21
Germany_______________1998____________1.18
Austria_______________1994____________1.17
Greece________________1994____________1.14
France________________1994____________1.12
Netherlands___________1994____________1.11
Switzerland___________1998____________1.06
Kuwait________________1995____________1.01
Norway________________1993____________0.97
Spain_________________1993____________0.95
Japan_________________1994____________0.62
Ireland_______________1991____________0.62

[sixxxthsense]

Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi

They also travel in packs, sometimes armored and all the time with assault riffles, gernades, many other things that go boom, and have additional support often.
Where as if someone begins shooting in DC well odds are I nor my friends are packing and there is no backup.

what about the fact that they are fighting poor soldiers, mostly armed civilians?

[dready]

TEN WORST STATES FOR MURDER, 2003
STATE

PER 100,000
(1) Louisiana 13.0
(2) Maryland 9.5
(3) Mississippi 9.3
(4) Nevada 8.8
(5) Arizona 7.9
(6) Georgia 7.6
(7) South Carolina 7.2
(8) California 6.8
(9) Tennessee 6.8
(10) Alabama 6.6



TEN SAFEST STATES FOR MURDER, 2003
STATE

PER 100,000
(1) Maine 1.2
(2) South Dakota 1.3
(3) New Hampshire 1.4
(4) Iowa 1.6
(5) Hawaii 1.7
(6) Idaho 1.8
(7) North Dakota 1.9
(8) Oregon 1.9
(9) Massachusetts 2.2
(10) Rhode Island 2.3


TEN WORST LARGE CITIES FOR MURDER, 2002
CITY

PER 100,000
(1) Washington, DC 45.8
(2) Detroit 42.0
(3) Baltimore 38.3
(4) Memphis 24.7
(5) Chicago 22.2
(6) Philadelphia 19.0
(7) Columbus 18.1
(8) Milwaukee 18.0
(9) Los Angeles 17.5
(10) Dallas 15.8


TEN SAFEST LARGE CITIES FOR MURDER, 2002
CITY

PER 100,000
(1) Honolulu 2.0
(2) El Paso 2.4
(3) San Jose 3.1
(4) Austin 3.7
(5) San Diego 3.8
(6) Portland 3.9
(7) Seattle 4.5
(8) New York 7.3
(9) San Francisco 7.3
(10) Oklahoma City 8.5

[dready]

LARGE CANADIAN CITIES BY HOMICIDE RATE, 1990
CITY

PER 100,000
(1) Regina 4.72
(2) Saskatoon 4.39
(3) Sudbury 4.00
(4) Edmonton 3.50
(5) Vancouver 3.45
(6) Montreal 3.40
(7) Winnipeg 3.05
(8) Calgary 2.60
(9) Toronto 1.80
(10) Hamilton 1.70
(11) Halifax 1.25
(12) St. John's 0.00

[BVF]

Originally Posted by BoNgHiTtA

I grew up in DC, and I can tell you that its terrible there. I remember partying at a club called buzz, it was in Anacosta, and I was outside, and heard an automatic go off.

Great city.. I got the fuck out as fast as possible

This is all BS.

Why in the fuck would you be partying at a club in ANACOSTIA SOUTHEAST WASHINGTON, the most DANGEROUS part of washington DC in the first place?

Those statistics that CD posted are bullshit....You're more likely to be KILLED in Iraq than in DC.

I'll show you how it's bullshit...With your poll, you just talk about being SHOT...But what about RPG's? Land Mines? Roadside Bombs? Beheadings? etc. etc....Now do you think that they factored all of those things in or do you just think that they talked about death by a GUN?

And what kind of guns are the Iraqi's carrying anyway that could compete with American M-16's besides a few AK's? What about the BODY ARMOR that the soldiers are wearing that reduces the chances of dying IF they get shot?....Now muthafuckas think that they can just walk around in Baghdad and be safer than in DC because of BS like this.

Never let Canadians post stats about American cities that they've probably never even been to. And if they have, they haven't been NEAR the parts that they are spewing their "stats" about.

[sickkittens]

FACT: You are more likely to kill yourself than be killed by anyone else.

[Doctor Dre]

Originally Posted by spunkmaster

Actually there have been about 600,000 troops who have served in Iraq with 1600 killed !

Do the numbers on this and it's safer then 99% of all major cities in the world !

There is 25 million people in canada and less then 500 murders in a year .

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in-theater in Iraq during the last 22 months, that gives a firearms death rate of 60 per 100,000.

The rate in Washington DC is 80.6 per 100,000.

That means that you are more likely to be shot and killed in the Nation's Capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.


Conclusion: you should immediately pull out of Washington, D.C.

you know its not sexy for the liberal press to focus on the result of failed liberal policies.
They get more "'atta boys" from their liberal friends for attacking the President and his successfull policies.

[XxXotic]

Originally Posted by kenny

D.C. is such a crackhead invested slum. You'd think they try and fix that problem being it's the nations capitol and all.

you'd know "fixing" that is impossible, the poor and homeless flock to DC because it's the nations capital and they think that by being there they're more likely to gain assistance which is not the case by any stretch of the means. and not all of DC is ghetto, a lot of it is... my mom lives on capital hill and it's hardly ghetto there

[directfiesta]

Since you eliminate Iraqi's death from your calculation, you should for Washington DC eliminate the black population .....

[Dalai lama]

mmmm sounds incorrect

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

you know its not sexy for the liberal press to focus on the result of failed liberal policies.
They get more "'atta boys" from their liberal friends for attacking the President and his successfull policies.

[dready]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Since you eliminate Iraqi's death from your calculation, you should for Washington DC eliminate the black population .....

Yes, the quote should be for the number of Washington DC COPS killed... not civilians. Compare that figure and it's all meaningless.

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by stev0

Law obiding citizens don't need guns... it only increases your chances of dying in an encounter.

Nice opinion, but I simply do not agree with it. If I want a gun for protection purposes I should damned well be able to have a gun for protection purposes. Period.

Remember, criminals don't care about your "gun laws".

[ytcracker]

i stubbed my toe this morning

im pulling out

[jimmyf]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in-theater in Iraq during the last 22 months, that gives a firearms death rate of 60 per 100,000.

The rate in Washington DC is 80.6 per 100,000.

That means that you are more likely to be shot and killed in the Nation's Capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.


Conclusion: you should immediately pull out of Washington, D.C.

I read this the other day, can't remember where.