FACT: you are more likely to be shot & killed in DC than in Iraq
 

If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in-theater in Iraq during the last 22 months, that gives a firearms death rate of 60 per 100,000.

The rate in Washington DC is 80.6 per 100,000.

That means that you are more likely to be shot and killed in the Nation's Capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation, than you are in Iraq.


Conclusion: you should immediately pull out of Washington, D.C.

where did you get this poll from?

That couldnt be right LOL!

thats impossible! if theres strict gun control how do the criminals get them?

hmm, interesting...

Poll? It's the death rate by location and government propaganda at work.

Ir arrived in my inbox yesterday morning at 8:27 am, lovingly wrapped with care and ensconsed in velvet, within the confines of a joke email. :D


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Actually there have been about 600,000 troops who have served in Iraq with 1600 killed !

Do the numbers on this and it's safer then 99% of all major cities in the world !

thats pretty interesting

Now you're starting to clue in.

Gun control doesn't disarm criminals, it disarms law-abiding society. :winkwink:

Look closer at my post... the 160,000 figure is the average over the duration.

600k may be the total, but 160k is the average.

And you are correct..... except for Winnipeg. Here we have on average about 25 murders per year, not all of them gun-related.

thats why its fun to listen to idiots wanting to ban guns
i usually tell him "excuse me, i need to call my illegal mexican workers and have them water my coca field. cocaine harvest is looking promissing this year!"

D.C. is such a crackhead invested slum. You'd think they try and fix that problem being it's the nations capitol and all. :upsidedow

Not surprising...I remember back in the day it was safer to walk the West Bank than it was to walk through parts of South Central..statistically of course.

yup...thats life in the big city of d.c.

I am pretty sure I am more likely to be blown up and killed in Iraq though.

What I would like to see is the number of US troops that have been on tour in Iraq, then the total number of injuries and fatalities, then arive at what percent of the population will suffer each. Then compare that to the cities.

I grew up in DC, and I can tell you that its terrible there. I remember partying at a club called buzz, it was in Anacosta, and I was outside, and heard an automatic go off.

Great city.. I got the fuck out as fast as possible

hmm, wouldn't that have something to do with the fact that the troops in Iraq are trained to defend themselves, whereas, the average murder victim is not?

They also travel in packs, sometimes armored and all the time with assault riffles, gernades, many other things that go boom, and have additional support often.
Where as if someone begins shooting in DC well odds are I nor my friends are packing and there is no backup.

Or you could come to Canada where its safe :)

what if you're an iraqi in iraq? if they rolled around dc in flack jackets, helmets, hummers and tanks they probably wouldn't get killed, just shot at.

yeah, that too

Very interesting, but I have been to DC quite a number of times and I am here to talk about it. However you wont find me anywhere near Iraq :2 cents:

It's a shame that a nation's capital has so much crime and homelessness

And cold :(

I've lived in both countries, and Washington DC has colder winters than Vancouver, Canada

You guys are nuts. The figures were bad.

"DC IS AGAIN 'MURDER CAPITAL', NEW STUDY SHOW"
"DC, by comparison, with nearly 600,000 residents, had 262 murders last year."

And in my state we can carry openly anywhere we want so DC having strict laws probably means very little. And what they have are probably not enforced.

2004 stats -

"Elsewhere, Washington, D.C., was on track to see one of its lowest murder rates in recent years. Through Monday, homicides totaled 193, compared to 240 at the same point in 2003."

It skews the numbers comparing DC to all of Iraq then comparing civilian deaths to military ones. Take one of the insurgent areas with a population close to the size of DC and put U.S. 100 soldiers on the streets in both there and in D.C. then crunch those numbers again after few months :winkwink:

I'd rather go unarmed in WDC than unarmed in Fallujah :winkwink:

Yes, I'd like to see those Iraq numbers include civilians... then I bet Washington will look like Canada...

In 2002, the murder rate held steady at 24 murders per million people in Toronto -- while, in 2002, Chicago experienced 229 murders per million people.

is this the Barry admin of the "good times" in DC or of the current Mayor Anthony A. Williams?

I was under the impression that the stats in DC were on the decline.

Law obiding citizens don't need guns... it only increases your chances of dying in an encounter.

Fact CNN reports 1 out of 100 casulties in Iraq.

Where did you come up with this numbers?
What's wrong with my Fact?
What about disabilities?

Nation________________Year___Homicide_Rate per_100,000 population
__________________________________________
South_Africa__________1995___________75.30
Colombia______________1996___________64.60
Colombia______________2000___________59.__
Latin_America_________1994___________28.4
Estonia_______________1994___________28.21
Brazil________________2002___________27.__
Brazil________________1993___________19.04
Mexico________________1994___________17.58
Philippines___________1996___________16.20
Taiwan________________1996____________8.12
N._Ireland____________1994____________6.09
United_States_________2000____________6.1_
Argentina_____________1994____________4.51
Hungary_______________1994____________3.53
Finland_______________1994____________3.24
Portugal______________1994____________2.98
Mauritius_____________1993____________2.35
Israel________________1993____________2.32
Scotland______________1994____________2.24
Canada________________1996____________2.1_
Slovenia______________1994____________2.01
Australia_____________1994____________1.86
Singapore_____________1994____________1.71
France________________1998____________1.64
South_Korea___________1994____________1.62
Italy_________________1998____________1.54
Australia_____________1998____________1.5_
New_Zealand___________1993____________1.47
Belgium_______________1990____________1.41
England_and_Wales_____1998____________1.30
Sweden________________1993____________1.30
Denmark_______________1993____________1.21
Germany_______________1998____________1.18
Austria_______________1994____________1.17
Greece________________1994____________1.14
France________________1994____________1.12
Netherlands___________1994____________1.11
Switzerland___________1998____________1.06
Kuwait________________1995____________1.01
Norway________________1993____________0.97
Spain_________________1993____________0.95
Japan_________________1994____________0.62
Ireland_______________1991____________0.62

what about the fact that they are fighting poor soldiers, mostly armed civilians?

TEN WORST STATES FOR MURDER, 2003
STATE

PER 100,000
(1) Louisiana 13.0
(2) Maryland 9.5
(3) Mississippi 9.3
(4) Nevada 8.8
(5) Arizona 7.9
(6) Georgia 7.6
(7) South Carolina 7.2
(8) California 6.8
(9) Tennessee 6.8
(10) Alabama 6.6



TEN SAFEST STATES FOR MURDER, 2003
STATE

PER 100,000
(1) Maine 1.2
(2) South Dakota 1.3
(3) New Hampshire 1.4
(4) Iowa 1.6
(5) Hawaii 1.7
(6) Idaho 1.8
(7) North Dakota 1.9
(8) Oregon 1.9
(9) Massachusetts 2.2
(10) Rhode Island 2.3


TEN WORST LARGE CITIES FOR MURDER, 2002
CITY

PER 100,000
(1) Washington, DC 45.8
(2) Detroit 42.0
(3) Baltimore 38.3
(4) Memphis 24.7
(5) Chicago 22.2
(6) Philadelphia 19.0
(7) Columbus 18.1
(8) Milwaukee 18.0
(9) Los Angeles 17.5
(10) Dallas 15.8


TEN SAFEST LARGE CITIES FOR MURDER, 2002
CITY

PER 100,000
(1) Honolulu 2.0
(2) El Paso 2.4
(3) San Jose 3.1
(4) Austin 3.7
(5) San Diego 3.8
(6) Portland 3.9
(7) Seattle 4.5
(8) New York 7.3
(9) San Francisco 7.3
(10) Oklahoma City 8.5

LARGE CANADIAN CITIES BY HOMICIDE RATE, 1990
CITY

PER 100,000
(1) Regina 4.72
(2) Saskatoon 4.39
(3) Sudbury 4.00
(4) Edmonton 3.50
(5) Vancouver 3.45
(6) Montreal 3.40
(7) Winnipeg 3.05
(8) Calgary 2.60
(9) Toronto 1.80
(10) Hamilton 1.70
(11) Halifax 1.25
(12) St. John's 0.00

This is all BS.

Why in the fuck would you be partying at a club in ANACOSTIA SOUTHEAST WASHINGTON, the most DANGEROUS part of washington DC in the first place?

Those statistics that CD posted are bullshit....You're more likely to be KILLED in Iraq than in DC.

I'll show you how it's bullshit...With your poll, you just talk about being SHOT...But what about RPG's? Land Mines? Roadside Bombs? Beheadings? etc. etc....Now do you think that they factored all of those things in or do you just think that they talked about death by a GUN?

And what kind of guns are the Iraqi's carrying anyway that could compete with American M-16's besides a few AK's? What about the BODY ARMOR that the soldiers are wearing that reduces the chances of dying IF they get shot?....Now muthafuckas think that they can just walk around in Baghdad and be safer than in DC because of BS like this.

Never let Canadians post stats about American cities that they've probably never even been to. And if they have, they haven't been NEAR the parts that they are spewing their "stats" about.

FACT: You are more likely to kill yourself than be killed by anyone else.

There is 25 million people in canada and less then 500 murders in a year .

you know its not sexy for the liberal press to focus on the result of failed liberal policies.
They get more "'atta boys" from their liberal friends for attacking the President and his successfull policies.

you'd know "fixing" that is impossible, the poor and homeless flock to DC because it's the nations capital and they think that by being there they're more likely to gain assistance which is not the case by any stretch of the means. and not all of DC is ghetto, a lot of it is... my mom lives on capital hill and it's hardly ghetto there

Since you eliminate Iraqi's death from your calculation, you should for Washington DC eliminate the black population .....

mmmm sounds incorrect

:helpme :1orglaugh :helpme :321GFY

Yes, the quote should be for the number of Washington DC COPS killed... not civilians. Compare that figure and it's all meaningless.

Nice opinion, but I simply do not agree with it. If I want a gun for protection purposes I should damned well be able to have a gun for protection purposes. Period.

Remember, criminals don't care about your "gun laws".

i stubbed my toe this morning

im pulling out

I read this the other day, can't remember where.