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lolitanaked · 01-21-2002, 04:08 PM

Is offshoreclicks shaving with their exits or not? Need help

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jxl3046 · 01-21-2002, 05:03 PM

yeah I tried them and they shaved like 30%..I started using http://www.realbigcash.com for this past month and already got a check with 100% credits for my hits... just thought id let yah know.

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TaDoW · 01-21-2002, 05:12 PM

I'll give you two guesses ...

if a company's NAME even contains the word "offshore" ... don't you think they are at least a little shady? I mean .. sponsors WITHIN the US shave 17 to 30% ... how much do you think someone shaves that doesn't have to worry about being sued?

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spacedog · 01-21-2002, 05:25 PM

I'm almost pretty damn sure they do..
I check the out clicks from my cj admin that tell me how many clicks/hits were sent to offshore, then I check offshores stats & they are not even close..
It's more like 50%..
But, someone told me that offshore only counts 2nd page clicks..
So, I'm not even sure myself..
I'm just going to try another per click program?
I also wondered if it was due to the changed link..
By adding the out.php? etc at the end of the link??

Shooter · 01-21-2002, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jxl3046:
yeah I tried them and they shaved like 30%..I started using http://www.realbigcash.com for this past month and already got a check with 100% credits for my hits... just thought id let yah know.

Wow you like this program so much you've been posting about it all over the net. It's like you're the owner or something....

spacedog · 01-21-2002, 06:15 PM

Who the fuck is responsible for that site, realbigcash..
Am I the only one that gets an alert..
"You must restart your computer for the new settings to take affect" "Do you wish to restart now?"
This is the 3rd time I visited that site & all 3 times this happened..
I want to know exactly what the fuck settings were changed on my pc...How the fuck do I find out what settings were changed? I dont like when someone changes my shit!!!

01-21-2002, 06:44 PM

jxl3046 says he used offshore and they shaved 30%. Now read this thread:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/...ML/016714.html

Don't lie and slam reliable sponsors like offshore just to get people to use your program. You won't get far. So far you have proven that you cannot be trusted.

01-21-2002, 06:48 PM

I guess that check he got for 100% of his hits must have been from himself.

bhutocracy · 01-21-2002, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick:
I guess that check he got for 100% of his hits must have been from himself.

heheheh...

if you're gonna lie on a forum you'd better keep track of what you've said...

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candidpublishinginc · 01-21-2002, 09:43 PM

Offshoreclicks and other reputable sponsors do not shave. The "everyone shaves" thing is a myth created by paranoid webmasters who aren't making as much as they used to with their TGP traffic.

Everyone who claims so and so shaves NEVER seems to back up their claims with actual FACTS or evidence that could suggest that.

The reason why offshoreclicks appears to count less than your server stats is because most exit sponsors only count traffic if the surfer (and rightfully so) lets the page fully load.

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railz · 01-22-2002, 12:10 AM

Spacedog - the "virus" is actually the Flash 5 player plugin that auto-installed when you visited the site.

Change your Active X security and chill out!

Nbritte · 01-22-2002, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jxl3046:
yeah I tried them and they shaved like 30%..I started using http://www.realbigcash.com for this past month and already got a check with 100% credits for my hits... just thought id let yah know.
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jxl3046 · 01-22-2002, 11:02 AM

Actually I did try out Offshore clicks after some friends of mine complained of them shaving..me and my ad team originally built tracking software from an ad firm...So we decided to use our software (targeting and tracking software similiar to mycomputer.com 's stats package) and compare the stats we had with that of offshore's. Thats when I noticed the 30% shaving..however I cant be concrete about that because of other external influences..

thats what I saw, thats why I said that.

However thats what also gave me the idea to work on http://www.realbigcash.com , which doesnt shave at all and offers exit consoles / blind clicks etc.

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12clicks · 01-22-2002, 11:22 AM

son, I hate to call you stupid so I won't. I'll call you an idiot.
You have no proof what so ever that offshore shaves. Just because your dopey stats count differently than theirs does NOT mean they shave.
What it means is that you are clueless about traffic and will, in the end, close your program, cheat your webmasters, or both. No knowlegdable webmaster would send you traffic after exposing youself as someone unfamiliar with traffic.

offshoreclicks · 01-22-2002, 01:02 PM

jxl3046 - couldn't find any account with the info listed in your profile (searched on nic, ICQ info etc). If you like, give me your OC username and I'll be happy to dig up the stats along with the IP logs, ref pages etc and take a look.

If you were using the clicks program your stats are probably quite accurate actually - we pay for second page clicks so that would mean you got a 70% clickthrough ratio to second page, not too shabby. Other than that, good luck with your program champ.

spacedog: Yep, we pay for second page clicks, not first. And no, you can't link to the end-url (out.php etc), it has to pass through our gateways.

TaDoW - Umm, see alot of successful shaving lawsuits in the US do you?

Other than that, How do we count hits? Well, I can't give away everything as it would open us up to cheaters, but lemme say this:

Imps & eXchange hits are successfully loaded consoles meeting the following criterias as being a "unique" hit:

1. The IP has not been recorded in our system since GMT midnight.
2. The browser does not have our 24 hour cookie present.
3. The browser is a mozilla type browser (sorry, lynx wont cut it

4. The surfers ISP is NOT located in China or Korea, determined by a realtime IP->GEO DB lookup.

Same goes for clicks, although here the same IP can click as many times as we have links on the gateway.

Techie Media · 01-22-2002, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks:
son, I hate to call you stupid so I won't. I'll call you an idiot.
You have no proof what so ever that offshore shaves. Just because your dopey stats count differently than theirs does NOT mean they shave.
What it means is that you are clueless about traffic and will, in the end, close your program, cheat your webmasters, or both. No knowlegdable webmaster would send you traffic after exposing youself as someone unfamiliar with traffic.

Well said Ron...

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Trax · 01-22-2002, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks:
son, I hate to call you stupid so I won't. I'll call you an idiot.
You have no proof what so ever that offshore shaves. Just because your dopey stats count differently than theirs does NOT mean they shave.
What it means is that you are clueless about traffic and will, in the end, close your program, cheat your webmasters, or both. No knowlegdable webmaster would send you traffic after exposing youself as someone unfamiliar with traffic.

AMEN

well said

SykkBoy · 01-22-2002, 02:27 PM

goddamnit 12clicks, stop this shit, you and I have been agreeing on way too many things the last month or so ;)))

we'd better be careful, I don't want those gay midget hooker orgy rumors about us to start cropping up again....

and anyone else want to start the deathpool for realbigcash.com?

maybe I can email Pud over at fuckedcompany.com and beg him to start fuckedporncompany.com.....

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12clicks · 01-22-2002, 02:36 PM

sykkboy, you liberal dope!

there, ya happy now?

the sad part is that I don't even know the guys from offshore.

I just know idiots when I see them

Squishy · 01-22-2002, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks:
...I just know idiots when I see them

And yet you are still ever so nice to me! Thanks, Mr. Clicks, Sir!

12clicks · 01-22-2002, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Squishy:

And yet you are still ever so nice to me! Thanks, Mr. Clicks, Sir!

hey, I leave the harmless idiots alone.

SykkBoy · 01-22-2002, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks:
sykkboy, you liberal dope!

well, if only you'd cut the eyeholes out of your little white pointy hat a little better, you could see that I'm not a total liberal

))

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Making Bank $84 per trial signup? How is it possible?

Evil is as evil does
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01-21-2002, 04:08 PM	#1
lolitanaked Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Nl Posts: 30	Offshoreclicks, shaving or not? Is offshoreclicks shaving with their exits or not? Need help ------------------ You want free cj hosting, with a trade script and unlimited bandwith? for more info visit: info for free cj hosting

01-21-2002, 05:03 PM	#2
jxl3046 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIT Posts: 66	yeah I tried them and they shaved like 30%..I started using http://www.realbigcash.com for this past month and already got a check with 100% credits for my hits... just thought id let yah know. ------------------ www.realbigcash.com 80% webmaster sharing, .25 cents per click, Earn $25 just for joining!!!

01-21-2002, 05:12 PM	#3
TaDoW Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Where It Rains Posts: 3,875	I'll give you two guesses ... if a company's NAME even contains the word "offshore" ... don't you think they are at least a little shady? I mean .. sponsors WITHIN the US shave 17 to 30% ... how much do you think someone shaves that doesn't have to worry about being sued? ------------------ -TaDoW Eighty-seven percent of all people in all professions are incompetent.

01-21-2002, 05:25 PM	#4
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	I'm almost pretty damn sure they do.. I check the out clicks from my cj admin that tell me how many clicks/hits were sent to offshore, then I check offshores stats & they are not even close.. It's more like 50%.. But, someone told me that offshore only counts 2nd page clicks.. So, I'm not even sure myself.. I'm just going to try another per click program? I also wondered if it was due to the changed link.. By adding the out.php? etc at the end of the link??

01-21-2002, 06:15 PM	#6
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Who the fuck is responsible for that site, realbigcash.. Am I the only one that gets an alert.. "You must restart your computer for the new settings to take affect" "Do you wish to restart now?" This is the 3rd time I visited that site & all 3 times this happened.. I want to know exactly what the fuck settings were changed on my pc...How the fuck do I find out what settings were changed? I dont like when someone changes my shit!!!

01-21-2002, 06:44 PM	#7
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	jxl3046 says he used offshore and they shaved 30%. Now read this thread: http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/...ML/016714.html Don't lie and slam reliable sponsors like offshore just to get people to use your program. You won't get far. So far you have proven that you cannot be trusted.

01-21-2002, 06:48 PM	#8
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	I guess that check he got for 100% of his hits must have been from himself.

01-21-2002, 09:43 PM	#10
candidpublishinginc Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bedford, NH 03110 Posts: 707	Offshoreclicks and other reputable sponsors do not shave. The "everyone shaves" thing is a myth created by paranoid webmasters who aren't making as much as they used to with their TGP traffic. Everyone who claims so and so shaves NEVER seems to back up their claims with actual FACTS or evidence that could suggest that. The reason why offshoreclicks appears to count less than your server stats is because most exit sponsors only count traffic if the surfer (and rightfully so) lets the page fully load. ------------------ Candid Clicks Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic! NO CONVERSIONS, NO BS!

01-22-2002, 12:10 AM	#11
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	Spacedog - the "virus" is actually the Flash 5 player plugin that auto-installed when you visited the site. Change your Active X security and chill out!

01-22-2002, 11:02 AM	#13
jxl3046 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIT Posts: 66	Actually I did try out Offshore clicks after some friends of mine complained of them shaving..me and my ad team originally built tracking software from an ad firm...So we decided to use our software (targeting and tracking software similiar to mycomputer.com 's stats package) and compare the stats we had with that of offshore's. Thats when I noticed the 30% shaving..however I cant be concrete about that because of other external influences.. thats what I saw, thats why I said that. However thats what also gave me the idea to work on http://www.realbigcash.com , which doesnt shave at all and offers exit consoles / blind clicks etc. ------------------ www.realbigcash.com 80% webmaster sharing, .25 cents per click, Earn $25 just for joining!!!

01-22-2002, 11:22 AM	#14
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	son, I hate to call you stupid so I won't. I'll call you an idiot. You have no proof what so ever that offshore shaves. Just because your dopey stats count differently than theirs does NOT mean they shave. What it means is that you are clueless about traffic and will, in the end, close your program, cheat your webmasters, or both. No knowlegdable webmaster would send you traffic after exposing youself as someone unfamiliar with traffic.

01-22-2002, 01:02 PM	#15
offshoreclicks Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 16	jxl3046 - couldn't find any account with the info listed in your profile (searched on nic, ICQ info etc). If you like, give me your OC username and I'll be happy to dig up the stats along with the IP logs, ref pages etc and take a look. If you were using the clicks program your stats are probably quite accurate actually - we pay for second page clicks so that would mean you got a 70% clickthrough ratio to second page, not too shabby. Other than that, good luck with your program champ. spacedog: Yep, we pay for second page clicks, not first. And no, you can't link to the end-url (out.php etc), it has to pass through our gateways. TaDoW - Umm, see alot of successful shaving lawsuits in the US do you? Other than that, How do we count hits? Well, I can't give away everything as it would open us up to cheaters, but lemme say this: Imps & eXchange hits are successfully loaded consoles meeting the following criterias as being a "unique" hit: 1. The IP has not been recorded in our system since GMT midnight. 2. The browser does not have our 24 hour cookie present. 3. The browser is a mozilla type browser (sorry, lynx wont cut it 4. The surfers ISP is NOT located in China or Korea, determined by a realtime IP->GEO DB lookup. Same goes for clicks, although here the same IP can click as many times as we have links on the gateway.

01-22-2002, 02:27 PM	#18
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	goddamnit 12clicks, stop this shit, you and I have been agreeing on way too many things the last month or so ;))) we'd better be careful, I don't want those gay midget hooker orgy rumors about us to start cropping up again.... and anyone else want to start the deathpool for realbigcash.com? maybe I can email Pud over at fuckedcompany.com and beg him to start fuckedporncompany.com..... ------------------ "It's all fun and games until somebody gets their scrotum caught in the door." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "It is not how right or how wrong you are that matters but how much money you make when right and how much you do not lose when wrong " - George Soros +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Making Bank $84 per trial signup? How is it possible? Evil is as evil does Dark Dollars

01-22-2002, 02:36 PM	#19
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	sykkboy, you liberal dope! there, ya happy now? the sad part is that I don't even know the guys from offshore. I just know idiots when I see them