The US will go to war with Iran according to Henry Kissinger?

[xxxdesign-net]

"Yesterday in Cindy Adams' column, Henry Kissinger declared that "It's a foregone conclusion that we will also go to war in Iran.""

http://www.wonkette.com/politics/fun...rld-040342.php

[who]

I told GFY this back in 2001.

[who]

Before I even registered....

[Mike Okitch]

Oh fucking great!

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by .?.

Before I even registered....

or with your previous nick..

[VeriSexy]

Tons of OIL in Iran also Venezuela

[Fire]

Well it's about time... They've had it coming since the late 70's.

[SmutGiant]

We're all fucked if that happens

[mockingbich]

The prophet Daniel predicted a war with Iran in the end times

There was no Iran when Daniel was alive... so he called it Persia. Persia would be allied with "peoples of the extreme North." Daniel means north of Israel. THey are now often regarded as the modern day Russians

Russia has been arming and supplying the muslim regime of Iran since the Ayatollah took power in 1979. They are already in an alliance

Daniel predicted the war would begin with a sneak attack by the Persians

IRAN will be totally destroyed in the worst military defeat in the history of the world - It's in the bible

But Iran isn't the only nation to be defeated. Daniel also predicted that a huge army of 200 million men would rush to the Middle East from the Far East. China currently boasts that they can field an army of 200 million

Daniel predicts this 200 million man army will be completely destroyed when they reach Israel and there will be entire river valleys filled with blood

[hershie]

Iran could have been such a great country. Highly educated and cultered people with great history...and lots of oil money to finance the country going forward...and the religious zealots messed it all up. Poster child for separation of church and state.

[BradM]

Good, they are going after the terrorists instead of the oil this time.

[David!]

Where's directfiesta when we need him?

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by BradM

Good, they are going after the terrorists instead of the oil this time.

Terrorists? No.. that's Saudi Arabia ..

[Relish XXX]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/...ngs/index.html

You need to do it fast. Your economy is worthless and you are already closing bases down as you cant afford paper aeroplanes let alone F15.

[MrJackMeHoff]

Originally Posted by mockingbich

otally destroyed in the worst military defeat in the history of the world - It's in the bible

Im sorry I lost you at the word "bible". Wasnt the world supposed to end in 2000, oh wait now its 3000?


Oh yeah:

>>There was no Iran when Daniel was alive... so he called it Persia. Persia would >>be allied with "peoples of the extreme North." Daniel means north of Israel. >>THey are now often regarded as the modern day Russians

If he could predict the future why would he call it Persia and not Iran?

[BRISK]

I predict this thread will turn into a "my country is better than your country" thread.

[hilly]

Originally Posted by hershie

Iran could have been such a great country. Highly educated and cultered people with great history...and lots of oil money to finance the country going forward...and the religious zealots messed it all up. Poster child for separation of church and state.

Yeah I agree. The religious zealots fucked it up

[VeriSexy]

Originally Posted by mockingbich

The prophet Daniel predicted a war with Iran in the end times

There was no Iran when Daniel was alive... so he called it Persia. Persia would be allied with "peoples of the extreme North." Daniel means north of Israel. THey are now often regarded as the modern day Russians

Russia has been arming and supplying the muslim regime of Iran since the Ayatollah took power in 1979. They are already in an alliance

Daniel predicted the war would begin with a sneak attack by the Persians

IRAN will be totally destroyed in the worst military defeat in the history of the world - It's in the bible

But Iran isn't the only nation to be defeated. Daniel also predicted that a huge army of 200 million men would rush to the Middle East from the Far East. China currently boasts that they can field an army of 200 million

Daniel predicts this 200 million man army will be completely destroyed when they reach Israel and there will be entire river valleys filled with blood

Iran is the biggest supplier of OIL to China.

China, Iran forge closer ties

By John Hill

The "common consensus between China and Iran in regional and international affairs is increasing", Chinese President Hu Jintao noted during a visit to Beijing by the Iranian Vice-President Mohammed Setarifar.

At the time of the visit in April 2004, Hu drew attention to the huge potential in economic co-operation between the two states, and this has continued apace. On 18 March 2005, Fereydoun Verdi-Nejad, the Iranian ambassador to China, noted that there were more than 100 Chinese projects under construction in Iran and that the value of economic transactions between the two countries hit US$7 billion in 2004. He said that "despite some countries' pressures on both Iran and China, they could not affect bilateral ties" - a message clearly directed at Washington.

China is a significant buyer of Iranian crude oil and Iran benefits from Chinese involvement in a number of ambitious infrastructure projects. In February, the Iranian new agency Mehrnews reported that Chinese officials had proposed setting up a consortium with Iran and Afghanistan to study how to connect Iran's Sarakhs railroad to China via Afghanistan. Beijing is also involved in Tehran's subway project, along with other road and transport initiatives.

The question is whether this burgeoning relationship between Beijing and Tehran in any way constitutes a major new alliance directed against US interests.

Beijing is open about its dislike of US hegemony in international affairs and has stated that its overarching foreign policy objective is to undermine this hegemony through pursuit of a multi-polar world order. Washington's worry is that the policy may include supporting 'rogue' states such as Iran by engaging in the proliferation of sensitive military technologies relating to WMD or ballistic missiles to rogue states.

http://www.janes.com/security/intern...0418_1_n.shtml

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by MrJackMeHoff

Im sorry I lost you at the word "bible". Wasnt the world supposed to end in 2000, oh wait now its 3000?

Bible or not.. China reminds a threat.. especially if the US plans to remain THE economic and military power in the world... China seems to have alot of ambitions and the US will NEVER let another country become #1 ... It might start with an "economic" war... and then can get out of hand...

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by VeriSexy

Iran is the biggest supplier of OIL to China.

China, Iran forge closer ties

By John Hill

The "common consensus between China and Iran in regional and international affairs is increasing", Chinese President Hu Jintao noted during a visit to Beijing by the Iranian Vice-President Mohammed Setarifar.

At the time of the visit in April 2004, Hu drew attention to the huge potential in economic co-operation between the two states, and this has continued apace. On 18 March 2005, Fereydoun Verdi-Nejad, the Iranian ambassador to China, noted that there were more than 100 Chinese projects under construction in Iran and that the value of economic transactions between the two countries hit US$7 billion in 2004. He said that "despite some countries' pressures on both Iran and China, they could not affect bilateral ties" - a message clearly directed at Washington.

China is a significant buyer of Iranian crude oil and Iran benefits from Chinese involvement in a number of ambitious infrastructure projects. In February, the Iranian new agency Mehrnews reported that Chinese officials had proposed setting up a consortium with Iran and Afghanistan to study how to connect Iran's Sarakhs railroad to China via Afghanistan. Beijing is also involved in Tehran's subway project, along with other road and transport initiatives.

The question is whether this burgeoning relationship between Beijing and Tehran in any way constitutes a major new alliance directed against US interests.

Beijing is open about its dislike of US hegemony in international affairs and has stated that its overarching foreign policy objective is to undermine this hegemony through pursuit of a multi-polar world order. Washington's worry is that the policy may include supporting 'rogue' states such as Iran by engaging in the proliferation of sensitive military technologies relating to WMD or ballistic missiles to rogue states.

http://www.janes.com/security/intern...0418_1_n.shtml

If one can learn anything from World War 1 is you dont attack a country that has strong ties with countries you woundt want to fight with...

[VeriSexy]

Originally Posted by Relish XXX

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/...ngs/index.html

You need to do it fast. Your economy is worthless and you are already closing bases down as you cant afford paper aeroplanes let alone F15.

WTF, USA spends more money on Military than the whole world combined. Where does all the money go? The USA's defense budget is likely to exceed $400 billion next year.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by VeriSexy

WTF, USA spends more money on Military than the whole world combined. Where does all the money go? The USA's defense budget is likely to exceed $400 billion next year.

Exactly.. and its NeoCon war-loving Rumsfeld that took that decision.. So you know it will affect in NO way the US ability to go to war againts anyone...

[Relish XXX]

Originally Posted by VeriSexy

WTF, USA spends more money on Military than the whole world combined. Where does all the money go? The USA's defense budget is likely to exceed $400 billion next year.

That is why the USA is broke. You are richer than the USA. It maybe good if the USA spent some money on education or the health service.

[devilspost]

The Iranian Threat: The Bomb or the Euro?

By Dr. Elias Akleh

03/24/05 "AMIN" - - Iran does not pose a threat to the United State because of its nuclear projects, its WMD, or its support to "terrorists organizations" as the American administration is claiming, but in its attempt to re-shape the global economical system by converting it from a petrodollar to a petroeuro system. Such conversion is looked upon as a flagrant declaration of economical war against the US that would flatten the revenues of the American corporations and eventually might cause an economic collapse.

[VeriSexy]

Originally Posted by devilspost

The Iranian Threat: The Bomb or the Euro?

By Dr. Elias Akleh

03/24/05 "AMIN" - - Iran does not pose a threat to the United State because of its nuclear projects, its WMD, or its support to "terrorists organizations" as the American administration is claiming, but in its attempt to re-shape the global economical system by converting it from a petrodollar to a petroeuro system. Such conversion is looked upon as a flagrant declaration of economical war against the US that would flatten the revenues of the American corporations and eventually might cause an economic collapse.

Saddam did that in 2000 and that lead to war..............

http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/...101baghdad.htm

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by devilspost

declaration of economical war against the US that would flatten the revenues of the American corporations and eventually might cause an economic collapse.

Can be said about China in maybe a couple of years...

[Screaming]

i think bush wants to take on the world at sometimes

[NaughtyRob]

Iran refuses to stop producing material for nukes. USA will not let anyone in that region have nukes. Too much oil at stake.

[tradr_09]

There is no way China will become an economic power like the USA in the near future.

USA Gross Domestic Product is around 11 Trillion
China Gross Domestic Product is around 1.7 Trillion
USA population is almost 300 million
China's population is around 1.2 billion

So for China to be on equal terms with the US, they would need to increase their GDP by around 6 times multiplied by 4 as it has four time the number of people. So it should have a GDP of 40.8 trillion!!!

This is just a basic show of how impossible it is for China to be an economic superpower like the USA, even more so since the cold war showed that the world can't have two superpowers.

[mockingbich]

Originally Posted by MrJackMeHoff

Im sorry I lost you at the word "bible". Wasnt the world supposed to end in 2000, oh wait now its 3000?


Oh yeah:

>>There was no Iran when Daniel was alive... so he called it Persia. Persia would >>be allied with "peoples of the extreme North." Daniel means north of Israel. >>THey are now often regarded as the modern day Russians

If he could predict the future why would he call it Persia and not Iran?

I'm not surprised that you got lost

[BRISK]

Originally Posted by tradr_09

There is no way China will become an economic power like the USA in the near future.

USA Gross Domestic Product is around 11 Trillion
China Gross Domestic Product is around 1.7 Trillion
USA population is almost 300 million
China's population is around 1.2 billion

So for China to be on equal terms with the US, they would need to increase their GDP by around 6 times multiplied by 4 as it has four time the number of people. So it should have a GDP of 40.8 trillion!!!

This is just a basic show of how impossible it is for China to be an economic superpower like the USA, even more so since the cold war showed that the world can't have two superpowers.

Where did you get your numbers from?

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/.../2001rank.html

[AdultMovies.bz]

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by Relish XXX

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/...ngs/index.html

You need to do it fast. Your economy is worthless and you are already closing bases down as you cant afford paper aeroplanes let alone F15.

We are past the F-15 and now onto the F-35!

[tradr_09]

http://devdata.worldbank.org/data-query/

the GDP figures are calculated on a exchange rate conversion to US$ for comparison. The figures you presented were calculated using Purchasing Power Parity which for a developing country gives rough approximations but still a useful comparison tool none the less. The 1.7 trillion is the expected figure for this year (that is with 9% annual growth rate in GDP). The worldbank shows GDP for China in 2003 was 1.4 trillion.

[Babaganoosh]

We aren't going to go to war with them, we are going to liberate the shit out of them.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

We aren't going to go to war with them, we are going to liberate the shit out of them.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

yes liberation is the\word!

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by ContentProducer

Iran refuses to stop producing material for nukes. USA will not let anyone in that region have nukes. Too much oil at stake.

You never heard of a country called Israel?

Let's face it the US is in hock up to it's eyeballs, the Bush's are in league with a a lot of Arabs, so the decision is not 100% down to the US.

Doubt if anyone in the world will support the US in another war, after Iraq.

[Manowar]

Originally Posted by AdultMovies.bz

[jigg]

they will go but who will fight it? recruitment down by 40%

[Rich]

Attacking Iran will be the beginning of the end of the American empire.

[effer]

This and no talk of N. Korea?! USA loves war in SE Asia. Refer to last century.

[stereolab]

Originally Posted by jigg

they will go but who will fight it? recruitment down by 40%

*brr* chilly in here. someone shut that window.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by effer

This and no talk of N. Korea?! USA loves war in SE Asia. Refer to last century.

You don't pay much attention, do you? North Korea is a real threat, America only attacks weak nations.

[eroswebmaster]

Originally Posted by stereolab

One of us, one of us..goobla gobbla one of us, one of us.

[stereolab]

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

i have the 'alternate endings' to that movie too somewhere around here.

[Veterans Day]

Originally Posted by Rich

Attacking Iran will be the beginning of the end of the American empire.

[kane]

Originally Posted by stereolab

*brr* chilly in here. someone shut that window.

very clever took me a minute to get it.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by jigg

they will go but who will fight it? recruitment down by 40%

So.. who'll move to Canada to avoid the draft..?

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by Rich

Attacking Iran will be the beginning of the end of the American empire.

That would be a shame since the Neo-Con's goal with this one is the opposite...