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Old 05-09-2005, 02:12 PM   #101
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new page, oh the joy....

sorry woj, your bot must need some tuning.
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I've never met a man, who told so many lies.
He had a different story, for every set of eyes.
How could he remember, who he was talking to.
I know it wasn't me, and I hope it wasn't you.
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:12 PM   #103
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:13 PM   #104
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Dear God this Ownage is getting ugly...
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:14 PM   #105
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Ok good, someone is counting the number of time MetaformX has lied.
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:15 PM   #106
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Ok good, someone is counting the number of time MetaformX has lied.
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:19 PM   #107
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someone sum it up in 10 words, what happened?
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:20 PM   #108
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:22 PM   #109
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This sig was made on 4/15/05 I think, a while ago. The blacking out part was done to hide the # of joins and traffic, and just show the conversion ratios, since back then we had not disclosed the # of joins we were doing.
"a while ago" ?
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wasn't 4/15/05 like, 3 fucking weeks ago? LOL
You make it sound like 1982
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:23 PM   #111
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Damm Rich are you on a mission?

I mean if the guy lied or whatever to his affiliates - he will have to pay the price.

In the old days online we all used to piss for days, weeks straight sometimes, but now I am like do a little piss and move on...
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:23 PM   #112
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someone sum it up in 10 words, what happened?

Said made 200 sales a day has not prooved it
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:24 PM   #113
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someone sum it up in 10 words, what happened?
Not 10 words, but here's my basic summary:

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First he faked a bunch of traffic tests using a bunch of old nicks and got busted badly for it. Fine, rookie mistake, most of us let it go. Then he comes back to explain why he's switching to revshare instead of doing PPS. What he meant to say was something like, we're a new program and we're not able to offer PPS yet, after we test our sites out and get our shit together we'll add a PPS option. Instead, he starts spitting out a bunch of shit about how he's only doing revshare because "smart webmasters" know that's how affiliates make more money, that programs make more with PPS, and since MetaformX is so selfless, he decided to offer revshare only as a favor to affiliates. When people start questioning his logic and, basically calling him on his bullshit, he keeps compounding it by lying about having the money and ability to offer PPS, and then makes it worse by lying about how successful the site is, saying over and over again that it does 200 joins a day and that anyone who does less doesn't have the right to question him. That's what this is about, your "boss" being a liar, it's not about "haters" and it's not about anyone being out to put down your program.

I should add, after all of this, Lenny2 called him out and said he'd give MetaformX $1000 if he'd prove what he said, that he makes 200 joins/day. I volunteered another $1000 to the cause. Of course, MetaformX had another group of excuses and lies about why he couldn't do this. Tomorrow he's going to photoshop more stats to make himself look like even more of a liar, stay tuned.

Here are the two original threads:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=464429

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=465076


It gets more and more pathetic for these guys by the day.

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Old 05-09-2005, 02:29 PM   #114
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Damm Rich are you on a mission?

I mean if the guy lied or whatever to his affiliates - he will have to pay the price.

In the old days online we all used to piss for days, weeks straight sometimes, but now I am like do a little piss and move on...

I don't like to let people get away with shit like this anymore. It's happened too many times, a bunch of people don't pay attention and then they end up getting fucked by a crooked program. As long as these guys keep lying, I'll keep calling them on it, and so will a couple other people. It's not right to just let some new program bullshit people on this board. He can salvage some dignity by admitting his lies now and apologizing, but I doubt he has the sense for that.
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:32 PM   #115
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This thread makes me think of a bleeding cow falling into a pond filled with pirahna and trying to fight them. Futile.
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:38 PM   #116
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A little bit off topic. But it's gotta be said. Stats comparisons, and claims re such comparisons, are always flawed. There's just too many variables. Currently, the industry is just stuck with word of mouth and anecdotal experience in determining which programs convert and which don't.

It would be NICE to have a legit/official 3rd party conversion validation "authority" but again, no one's traffic is exactly the same as another webmaster's. We're just stuck with localized ideas of which sponsors convert and which don't.

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The bottom line is simply this... do you make money pushing his sites? If so, put a sock in it. If you don't, move on. If you don't push his sites at all, then how do you know if they do well or not? If you don't know, why knock it?

I would never, ever open my books to anyone for any reason. That's just stupid. They are HIS books and his books are HIS business.

I'm not sticking up for the guy cause I don't know him. I just think some of you are going off the deep end on him over some dumb shit.
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:55 PM   #118
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The bottom line is simply this... do you make money pushing his sites? If so, put a sock in it. If you don't, move on. If you don't push his sites at all, then how do you know if they do well or not? If you don't know, why knock it?

I would never, ever open my books to anyone for any reason. That's just stupid. They are HIS books and his books are HIS business.

I'm not sticking up for the guy cause I don't know him. I just think some of you are going off the deep end on him over some dumb shit.

That sounds almost exactly like what people were saying to me when I started warning them about PIB Cash...
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That sounds almost exactly like what people were saying to me when I started warning them about PIB Cash...
I have not read all the drama going on (I don't have that much time) but if he is fucking people out of money, that's something else. I'm just speaking about the stats issue and how many joins he gets. None of that should matter to anyone as long as they're getting paid.
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Old 05-09-2005, 03:36 PM   #120
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I will post 'evidence' tomorow when I return. Do I expect eeryone to believe it? No.

But such is life. No disrespect to anyone, but wether I do 200 joins a day on a single site should be relevant to only one person.
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No disrespect to anyone, but wether I do 200 joins a day on a single site should be relevant to only one person
lmfao, good call.


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When you do 200 joins a day with a single site that has been up for 1 month, come talk to me.
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Anyone here who is doing more than 200 joins a day can call me incompetent. You on the other hand would be better served shutting your mouth and looking in the mirror.
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As for the rest of the wankers in this thread, when you do 200 joins a day with a brand new site that launched 1 month ago, come give me some advise.
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200 joins a day after 1 month, the numbers do the talking you wanker. I bet that makes your blood boil. How many joins a day you do Mr. expert? 3? 7? LoL. You know anything about running a program?
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I still reckon he does over 200 per day. He has the main advertising spot on a site where I get 50 sign ups from per day and I am only featured in the British based areas of the site.
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I still reckon he does over 200 per day. He has the main advertising spot on a site where I get 50 sign ups from per day and I am only featured in the British based areas of the site.
What's the site?
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I still reckon he does over 200 per day. He has the main advertising spot on a site where I get 50 sign ups from per day and I am only featured in the British based areas of the site.
I call bullshit.
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What's the site?

I am not saying the guy posts here now and again and is laughed at when he is selling advertising space. He sells it pretty cheap for what you get.
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MetaFormX reminds me of Nick Tukhman..
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I am not saying the guy posts here now and again and is laughed at when he is selling advertising space. He sells it pretty cheap for what you get.
*cough* BULLSHIT *cough*
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I am not saying the guy posts here now and again and is laughed at when he is selling advertising space. He sells it pretty cheap for what you get.
More bullshit, just what this thread needs.
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Here's a thread started by one of MetaformX's aliases...
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=452854
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I think it was fairly clear in the thread you are reffering to that it was "koshka" AKA "VGK" who was the affiliate faking stats so he can get more affiliates under him. Re-read the thread.

Off topic, but Dre, that big project you were working on, what happened to it? I was looking forward to it. Or maybe I am thinking of someone else? I dunno, I have the memory of a fish sometimes
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Well I am quoted as being worth over $35m by X biz and a few other online sources. My vending machine company is featured on the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/3837375.stm

I turn over quite a serious amount each week (easy 7 figures in sterling) I do realise that Metaform X may not have any other line business but I can tell you that the guy I get 50 sales from per day posts here and Metaform X gets most of his traffic.

Why the fuck would I lie to stick up for someone I dont know?
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Rich, like I said, I am not here for the drama, I have work to do, so I will get going and will check the thread to see if I can answer anyones questions regarding the program. I'm not the drama kind of person, so I will let all you guys duke it out in the wild wild west of GFY.

You are entitled to your opinion, that is what this message board is about.

What 'real' webmasters care about is who makes them the most money, plain and simple. I have been in this business long enough to know that, and I think you understand that as well.

I guess I don't quite understand what the big deal is with you. You are saying we don't do 200 joins a day on XGAPE. Meta is saying we do.

And somehow, you think this little 'controvercy' of if XGAPE does 200 joins a day or not is going to stop webmasters from promoting us, IF we have the ability to make them money?

I am sorry, but I think you are a bit naive, and misinformed.

Now again this is all contingent on IF we make webmasters money, right? I mean if the program sucks, nothing else matters, so no one will promote us.

Do you think a program that makes everyone money will suddenly evaporate because you think it should? That is not how the world works.

So we will wait and see what happens I guess. I am not looking for a job, I will be with StudioCash for as long as they want me. They have treated me right from day 1, and I owe Meta alot for that.

Everyone has seen XGAPE, most people, even if they do not like Meta on a personal level, will admit that is one damn good site that should convert.

All of our other sites will be as good or better than XGAPE. You make your own conclusions.

Take care Rich.
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Well I am quoted as being worth over $35m by X biz and a few other online sources. My vending machine company is featured on the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/3837375.stm

I turn over quite a serious amount each week (easy 7 figures in sterling) I do realise that Metaform X may not have any other line business but I can tell you that the guy I get 50 sales from per day posts here and Metaform X gets most of his traffic.

Why the fuck would I lie to stick up for someone I dont know?
why the fuck would you post on GFY and run small time pr0n sites if you have a 'vending machine company' worth 35m?

I'm starting to think Koshka/Metaformx is D. Stodghill lol
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Ugh ? that's just dumb now . If I was making good money with cheap advertising I wouldn't tell everybody arround
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ask him to capture his monitor showing the stats captured by a digitall camera, lets say some high resolution (1600 x 1200)
then he couldn't photoshop his stats without us seeing it, or at least he won't be ready until tomorrow
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ask him to capture his monitor showing the stats captured by a digitall camera, lets say some high resolution (1600 x 1200)
then he couldn't photoshop his stats without us seeing it, or at least he won't be ready until tomorrow

He could still fake that easily.
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ask him to capture his monitor showing the stats captured by a digitall camera, lets say some high resolution (1600 x 1200)
then he couldn't photoshop his stats without us seeing it, or at least he won't be ready until tomorrow
Nice try MetaformX
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A little bit off topic. But it's gotta be said. Stats comparisons, and claims re such comparisons, are always flawed. There's just too many variables. Currently, the industry is just stuck with word of mouth and anecdotal experience in determining which programs convert and which don't.

It would be NICE to have a legit/official 3rd party conversion validation "authority" but again, no one's traffic is exactly the same as another webmaster's. We're just stuck with localized ideas of which sponsors convert and which don't.

YARGH! It would be nice to *see* the truth.


The good ship be risin'....

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someone sum it up in 10 words, what happened?
I'm not sure, but I think someone got owned
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Dont let the door hit you in the arse. % programs are a joke, 99% of the time,

ATK and Karups are therefore jokes, based on your statement.

(shakes head)

I have strong feelings about PPS programs but I'll keep those to myself.
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Nice try MetaformX

?? you think that i am below him?

edited: misstyped the word below
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Old 05-09-2005, 06:17 PM   #144
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He could still fake that easily.
im just trying to make him show something that can't be edited very easy ;))
sorry that i don't know photoshop too much..

so why not ask him now to capture his stats through camcoder, can it be edited easyly?

he can start with capturing the monitor, then slowly zoom to the lines showing the stats for every day ?
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Old 05-10-2005, 06:43 AM   #145
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you're now going down as the biggest pussy on GFY in my book... and that's an achievement!

Next time I'd appreciate it if you waited with these threads until I'm up, damn page 3 siggg spot biatch
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Old 05-10-2005, 07:19 AM   #146
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Old 05-10-2005, 07:59 AM   #147
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I don't like to let people get away with shit like this anymore. It's happened too many times, a bunch of people don't pay attention and then they end up getting fucked by a crooked program. As long as these guys keep lying, I'll keep calling them on it, and so will a couple other people. It's not right to just let some new program bullshit people on this board. He can salvage some dignity by admitting his lies now and apologizing, but I doubt he has the sense for that.

Much like I do not let you get away with the misinformation...BS...and lies that you spew forth almost daily...eh Richy boy? As long as you keep lying "I'll keep calling" you on it...just as other people do. It's not right to allow you to bullshit people on this board. You could salvage some dignity by admitting to your lies now and apologizing to Americans in general...but I know that you don't have the sense for that...as those voices in your head have control of you.
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:08 AM   #148
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Much like I do not let you get away with the misinformation...BS...and lies that you spew forth almost daily...eh Richy boy? As long as you keep lying "I'll keep calling" you on it...just as other people do. It's not right to allow you to bullshit people on this board. You could salvage some dignity by admitting to your lies now and apologizing to Americans in general...but I know that you don't have the sense for that...as those voices in your head have control of you.

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Old 05-10-2005, 08:14 AM   #149
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Letting your stats confirm by lens or paycom ( which is possible ) is opening your business books. But posting screenshots and making statements of doing an x-amount of sales a day is not opening your books?
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:59 AM   #150
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im just trying to make him show something that can't be edited very easy ;))
sorry that i don't know photoshop too much..

so why not ask him now to capture his stats through camcoder, can it be edited easyly?

he can start with capturing the monitor, then slowly zoom to the lines showing the stats for every day ?

leden, where in bulgaria are you from man? are u bulgarian? im from sofia, but I live in DC.
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