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Jade · 01-17-2002, 12:29 AM

Hi,

I'm seriously considering purchasing a banner space on the hun for $900 a month and spending $500 on ppc search engines.

Good idea or bad?

If good, what are some things I can do to really take advantage of the boost in traffic?

Any opinions or ideas would be very welcomed.

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Martin · 01-17-2002, 01:13 AM

Hey Jade,
all I can say to you is that the Hun's traffic rocks and search engine traffic never hurt anybody

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Amputate Your Head · 01-17-2002, 01:16 AM

$900 for a tgp banner spot.....

pass the spray paint.

Mango · 01-17-2002, 01:17 AM

Give The Hun a try; if you don't earn your $900 back... nothing's lost, but if you get more back... keep buying their banner space

Simple as that but effective

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RedShoe · 01-17-2002, 01:27 AM

I've never paid for an ad placement. I can only offer my opinion.

It seems logical to think that the Hun would decide that $900.00 was a fair price. He must know how much bling bling that spot can generate. He must know that you will easily make your money on that spot, and therefore charges to cover bandwidth on that spot, as well as make up for the money that he will not make.

If he charges too much he will not have return buyers for that spot, and will not be able to sell that spot.

On the other hand, Why would he want to sell a spot for $900.00 when he could make more $$ off that spot with his own sponsor banner? Because it's a guaranteed $900.00!

So I think, I don't know what I think I'm too tired

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Snake Doctor · 01-17-2002, 01:32 AM

If you've got something fairly unique or exclusive to advertise then you can't go wrong with The Hun. If you're trying to advertise some general themed Kara's or Cybererotica clone you probably won't make your money back.

On PPC search traffic you need to have a solid exit strategy to make money off of the non buyers. Its so damn expensive to get good keywords that its near impossible to get a good ROI otherwise.

Just my 1 and a half cents.
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Jade · 01-17-2002, 09:45 AM

Thanks for all your replies!

What would be an example of a good exit strategy, as Lenny2 mentioned?

Kisses,

Jade

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xApster · 01-17-2002, 10:06 AM

The hun would be a billionare if he paid 10 guys to make 40 galleries a day for him and he got all the sign ups ...

But instead he sells gallery spots =) Just like with the banner.. I bet he could make way more off it if he wanted to spend the time on it.... but instead just sell it for a good price

Rip · 01-17-2002, 10:31 AM

I would have to say after using goto's PPC engine for 3 months with some very targetted links and prequalifiers, it wasn't worth it, plus you have to jump through a lot of hoops, to get a listing

Maybe consider buying traffic elsewhere

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Lane · 01-17-2002, 10:37 AM

if you are doing it the first time, chances are low that you are gonna make profit.
but you gotta start somewhere and gain some experience.

PayPerClickSE · 01-17-2002, 10:45 AM

Hey Jade
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candidpublishinginc · 01-17-2002, 12:00 PM

If I'm not mistaken, with the 900 bucks a month banner plan The Hun expects you to host the banner with your own bandwidth. I wouldn't recomend it unless you buy a lot of bandwidth in bulk.

I believe he offers a more expensive plan where he does cover bandwidth costs though.

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candidpublishinginc · 01-17-2002, 12:05 PM

PPC SE traffic is good, but expect to do a lot of micromanagement. The most effective way to do it is to buy tons of different keyword phrases at low prices. It's tricky and tedious, but there are lots of people that successfully do it.

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Flea@ · 01-17-2002, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mango:
Give The Hun a try; if you don't earn your $900 back... nothing's lost.

Umm correct me if I am wrong here , but yes there is something that might be lost. Max $900. Say the very least he makes $1, then $899 is lost. etc. etc.. However your logic seems skewed.

Rip · 01-17-2002, 12:15 PM

I'd try the hun, or some of the other tgps for paid advertising before using a ppc again

I'd even consider trying some of the smaller tgps first to test the waters if you are new to paid placements or ads

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PersonasNonGrata · 01-17-2002, 12:18 PM

Just wondering is the $900 dollar spot on the hun at the top or is in the middle or bottem of the page? is it your spot only or does your banner just go into a rotation?

Wiredoctor · 01-17-2002, 12:37 PM

The banners go in a rotation for sure.... you don't think the hun sells 1 spot for 900 bucks for the month and thats it do you??

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CC · 01-17-2002, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersonasNonGrata:
Just wondering is the $900 dollar spot on the hun at the top or is in the middle or bottem of the page? is it your spot only or does your banner just go into a rotation?

You get a horizontal banner for $900. I believe he sells approx 25 horizontal spots that all go into the rotation. The vertical spots are $1000 (I believe he sells 16 of these spots, all of which go into the rotation). Buying traffic from the hun works beautifully for me. A horizontal spot costs me about $1100 - $1150 total and I make about $3000 a month from it (I send all the traffic to my highest converting amateur teen paysite, with no free trial). However, if you have a shitty site, then naturally the traffic is not going to convert as well for you.

Cassie

sasush · 01-17-2002, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CC:
You get a horizontal banner for $900. I believe he sells approx 25 horizontal spots that all go into the rotation. The vertical spots are $1000 (I believe he sells 16 of these spots, all of which go into the rotation). Buying traffic from the hun works beautifully for me. A horizontal spot costs me about $1100 - $1150 total and I make about $3000 a month from it (I send all the traffic to my highest converting amateur teen paysite, with no free trial). However, if you have a shitty site, then naturally the traffic is not going to convert as well for you.

Cassie

How much traffic per day does thehun sents to you ?

Snake Doctor · 01-17-2002, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jade:
Thanks for all your replies!

What would be an example of a good exit strategy, as Lenny2 mentioned?

Kisses,

Jade

If you don't know, you're not ready for PPC SE traffic

I don't say that to offend you, just trying to help you avoid a costly mistake.
You should probably learn more about filtering and targeting traffic before you jump into something like that.

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CC · 01-17-2002, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sasush:
How much traffic per day does thehun sents to you ?

It varies, on some days we get 1800, and on good days we get 2500. We change
our banners daily in order to keep them as fresh as possible. The longer you use the same banner, generally, the worse it does. Our site is softcore and those banners don't always pull as well as hardcore ones, so I think that's why our numbers aren't higher. However, the traffic converts great for us (much better than the traffic coming from our regular TGP listings on the hun), so we're happy campers. We're on the waiting list for a vertical banner now!

Jade · 01-18-2002, 04:56 PM

I did it! I just sent thehun my money today. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Thanks for all the advice!

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Darren · 01-18-2002, 05:27 PM

Regarding PPC my webmasters have the most success with this check e-mail i just sent out about it:

---GETTING RATIO BELOW 1:100
We have been experimenting with PPC traffic, for those that don't know PPC traffic is traffic you pay for and many
of our affiliates make in excesss of > $5000 a month using this method. An example of a PPC search engine is
Findwhat.com & overture.com you can purchase traffic for keywords such as "penis enlargement" for only 0.5 cents per
a click and with signups ratios of 1:20 for this type of traffic you can make 1 sale per every $1 you spend, obviously
depending on the keywords this ratio can go up an down but it is VERY effective.

The best way to convert PPC traffic is to use a Gatway site that reviews the top penis enlargement sites or provides
information on penis enlargement techniques, an example would be http://www.penisreviews.com or http://growabigdick.com
then pay for some traffic at a PPC engine its that simple. Below I have provided you with the top PPC search engines and
also the top 200 keywords for penis enlargement traffic:

Top PPC search engines: http://www.overture.com http://www.findwhat.com http://www.kanoodle.com http://www.goclick.com

There are more but they are good to start with, Now for the keywords: http://www.penis-health.com/key.xls

Also we recently experiemented with a Yahoo listing and recieved an additional 5-7 sales a day so we defiently
think you should also submit your site to Yahoo, once designed however this does cost $299 but within 2 days of
sales you have made more than this anyway.

Ok folks thats all for today, go to http://www.penis-health.com/webmasters/ and check out the new stuff and remember
e-mail me with any questions or comments.

Thanks

Darren Beale ICQ 46335817 [email protected]

teadrinker · 01-18-2002, 07:25 PM

Darren are you speaking the truth or is this just your way of spamming?

01-17-2002, 12:29 AM	#1
Jade Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 329	$900 for banner on the hun and $500 for ppc SE... Hi, I'm seriously considering purchasing a banner space on the hun for $900 a month and spending $500 on ppc search engines. Good idea or bad? If good, what are some things I can do to really take advantage of the boost in traffic? Any opinions or ideas would be very welcomed. Kisses, Jade ------------------ Cum see me at http://i-blowjob.com Blowjob Affiliate Program (50% Recurring) http://www.i-blowjob.com/affiliates/signup.php

01-17-2002, 01:13 AM	#2
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	Hey Jade, all I can say to you is that the Hun's traffic rocks and search engine traffic never hurt anybody ------------------ Sarcastic-Bastards TGP/Newbie Form<--Kick Ass Board In Town! Green Thumbs TGP.Com

01-17-2002, 01:16 AM	#3
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	$900 for a tgp banner spot..... pass the spray paint.

01-17-2002, 01:17 AM	#4
Mango Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 474	Give The Hun a try; if you don't earn your $900 back... nothing's lost, but if you get more back... keep buying their banner space Simple as that but effective Carl ------------------ CobaltWeb - High Volume Hosting - $0.70-$0.61 per GB - Plans from $13.99 per Month - No Setup Fee ---The End of Free Hosting---

01-17-2002, 01:27 AM	#5
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	I've never paid for an ad placement. I can only offer my opinion. It seems logical to think that the Hun would decide that $900.00 was a fair price. He must know how much bling bling that spot can generate. He must know that you will easily make your money on that spot, and therefore charges to cover bandwidth on that spot, as well as make up for the money that he will not make. If he charges too much he will not have return buyers for that spot, and will not be able to sell that spot. On the other hand, Why would he want to sell a spot for $900.00 when he could make more $$ off that spot with his own sponsor banner? Because it's a guaranteed $900.00! So I think, I don't know what I think I'm too tired ------------------ 13,000 Free Pics And Videos For You To Use

01-17-2002, 01:32 AM	#6
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	If you've got something fairly unique or exclusive to advertise then you can't go wrong with The Hun. If you're trying to advertise some general themed Kara's or Cybererotica clone you probably won't make your money back. On PPC search traffic you need to have a solid exit strategy to make money off of the non buyers. Its so damn expensive to get good keywords that its near impossible to get a good ROI otherwise. Just my 1 and a half cents. Good Luck ------------------ Did somebody say Free Content?

01-17-2002, 09:45 AM	#7
Jade Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 329	Thanks for all your replies! What would be an example of a good exit strategy, as Lenny2 mentioned? Kisses, Jade ------------------ Cum see me at http://i-blowjob.com Blowjob Affiliate Program (50% Recurring) http://www.i-blowjob.com/affiliates/signup.php

01-17-2002, 10:06 AM	#8
xApster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,188	The hun would be a billionare if he paid 10 guys to make 40 galleries a day for him and he got all the sign ups ... But instead he sells gallery spots =) Just like with the banner.. I bet he could make way more off it if he wanted to spend the time on it.... but instead just sell it for a good price

01-17-2002, 10:31 AM	#9
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	I would have to say after using goto's PPC engine for 3 months with some very targetted links and prequalifiers, it wasn't worth it, plus you have to jump through a lot of hoops, to get a listing Maybe consider buying traffic elsewhere ------------------ $$ You sell FREE MEMBERSHIPS $$ You Make Up To $19.47 or MORE! $$ JackThumbsTGP - - - VideoKAT-ViDeOpOsT - Post Gallieries - - - - - - - Trade Traffic -

01-17-2002, 10:37 AM	#10
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	if you are doing it the first time, chances are low that you are gonna make profit. but you gotta start somewhere and gain some experience.

01-17-2002, 10:45 AM	#11
PayPerClickSE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 8	Hey Jade Here is a PPC Search engine that you can get listed on for FREE It is just starting up, so the Guy is Giving away $5 in Free Listings... Might as well Try it It is Free, Don't have to spend any Money to get the $5.. Get $5 Free

01-17-2002, 12:00 PM	#12
candidpublishinginc Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bedford, NH 03110 Posts: 707	If I'm not mistaken, with the 900 bucks a month banner plan The Hun expects you to host the banner with your own bandwidth. I wouldn't recomend it unless you buy a lot of bandwidth in bulk. I believe he offers a more expensive plan where he does cover bandwidth costs though. ------------------ Candid Clicks Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic! NO CONVERSIONS, NO BS!

01-17-2002, 12:05 PM	#13
candidpublishinginc Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bedford, NH 03110 Posts: 707	PPC SE traffic is good, but expect to do a lot of micromanagement. The most effective way to do it is to buy tons of different keyword phrases at low prices. It's tricky and tedious, but there are lots of people that successfully do it. ------------------ Candid Clicks Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic! NO CONVERSIONS, NO BS!

01-17-2002, 12:15 PM	#15
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	I'd try the hun, or some of the other tgps for paid advertising before using a ppc again I'd even consider trying some of the smaller tgps first to test the waters if you are new to paid placements or ads ------------------ $$ You sell FREE MEMBERSHIPS $$ You Make Up To $19.47 or MORE! $$ JackThumbsTGP - - - VideoKAT-ViDeOpOsT - Post Gallieries - - - - - - - Trade Traffic -

01-17-2002, 12:18 PM	#16
PersonasNonGrata Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CA Posts: 47	Just wondering is the $900 dollar spot on the hun at the top or is in the middle or bottem of the page? is it your spot only or does your banner just go into a rotation?

01-17-2002, 12:37 PM	#17
Wiredoctor Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Great USA Posts: 1,632	The banners go in a rotation for sure.... you don't think the hun sells 1 spot for 900 bucks for the month and thats it do you?? ------------------ It's All About Clicks

01-18-2002, 04:56 PM	#22
Jade Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 329	I did it! I just sent thehun my money today. I'm keeping my fingers crossed! Thanks for all the advice! ------------------ Cum see me at http://i-blowjob.com Blowjob Affiliate Program (50% Recurring) http://www.i-blowjob.com/affiliates/signup.php

01-18-2002, 05:27 PM	#23
Darren Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,994	Regarding PPC my webmasters have the most success with this check e-mail i just sent out about it: ---GETTING RATIO BELOW 1:100 We have been experimenting with PPC traffic, for those that don't know PPC traffic is traffic you pay for and many of our affiliates make in excesss of > $5000 a month using this method. An example of a PPC search engine is Findwhat.com & overture.com you can purchase traffic for keywords such as "penis enlargement" for only 0.5 cents per a click and with signups ratios of 1:20 for this type of traffic you can make 1 sale per every $1 you spend, obviously depending on the keywords this ratio can go up an down but it is VERY effective. The best way to convert PPC traffic is to use a Gatway site that reviews the top penis enlargement sites or provides information on penis enlargement techniques, an example would be http://www.penisreviews.com or http://growabigdick.com then pay for some traffic at a PPC engine its that simple. Below I have provided you with the top PPC search engines and also the top 200 keywords for penis enlargement traffic: Top PPC search engines: http://www.overture.com http://www.findwhat.com http://www.kanoodle.com http://www.goclick.com There are more but they are good to start with, Now for the keywords: http://www.penis-health.com/key.xls Also we recently experiemented with a Yahoo listing and recieved an additional 5-7 sales a day so we defiently think you should also submit your site to Yahoo, once designed however this does cost $299 but within 2 days of sales you have made more than this anyway. Ok folks thats all for today, go to http://www.penis-health.com/webmasters/ and check out the new stuff and remember e-mail me with any questions or comments. Thanks Darren Beale ICQ 46335817 [email protected]

01-18-2002, 07:25 PM	#24
teadrinker Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA Posts: 339	Darren are you speaking the truth or is this just your way of spamming?