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Old 05-07-2005, 07:12 PM   #151
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150 pps programs..


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Old 05-07-2005, 07:40 PM   #152
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Thats probably what it comes down too and why he would love revshare.
No question about it.

If only he had admitted this in the first place, 2000 people wouldn't realize he's a lair.
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Old 05-07-2005, 08:26 PM   #153
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This bullshit thread is always running?
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Old 05-07-2005, 08:32 PM   #154
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Btw, its funny again to see only 2 ppl support your move to Revshare

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Old 05-08-2005, 10:13 AM   #155
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This bullshit thread is always running?

This bullshit thread will never die.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:21 AM   #156
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Dont forget, we are haters and do 5 signup per day
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:33 AM   #157
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Metaform, I have much love for you man, your sites convert to trial amazingly well. But PPS isn't gonna be good for me

I made 16 signups with your site, and only got paid for 2 of them. So for 16 joins I got $70. Thats not so good buddy.

If you think Partnership can make your webmasters more money then thats cool, you know I'll send ya more traffic when it goes live, but I don't know if it will. Most people like to be paid $35 per signup.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do, your Anal Site is excellent, and does convert VERY well on the $1 trial. In my experience tho its not converting onwards of that.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:35 AM   #158
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Why cant this guy just make a honest post and admit he fucked up.

Just say youre sorry for all the bullshit and lies and hope people will accept it.
Instead you keep on lying and talking shit and everybody knows it. Personally i would never promote you after all your crap. And a lot of others wont either. Nothing worse than a lying program owner.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:43 AM   #159
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Metaform, I have much love for you man, your sites convert to trial amazingly well. But PPS isn't gonna be good for me

I made 16 signups with your site, and only got paid for 2 of them. So for 16 joins I got $70. Thats not so good buddy.

If you think Partnership can make your webmasters more money then thats cool, you know I'll send ya more traffic when it goes live, but I don't know if it will. Most people like to be paid $35 per signup.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do, your Anal Site is excellent, and does convert VERY well on the $1 trial. In my experience tho its not converting onwards of that.
Ross, i heard ya bro, the conversions are great, but the "Pay per active" sucks, webmasters want to see money right away, which is why we will do away with the pay per active next week and go to revshare.

We will send all our affiliates an email explaining all the new changes that we are making to the site to increase retention.

And trust me, there are some MAJOR changes that we are making to the site and members area to increase the member retention and trial to full retention.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:44 AM   #160
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Why cant this guy just make a honest post and admit he fucked up.

Just say youre sorry for all the bullshit and lies and hope people will accept it.
Instead you keep on lying and talking shit and everybody knows it. Personally i would never promote you after all your crap. And a lot of others wont either. Nothing worse than a lying program owner.

Franck, tell me what I should say sorry for? What exactly did I do wrong?

I should say sorry that we are switching from "pay per active" to revshare?

Is that what you want me to say sorry for?
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Franck, tell me what I should say sorry for? What exactly did I do wrong?

I should say sorry that we are switching from "pay per active" to revshare?

Is that what you want me to say sorry for?

Are you also retarded besides being a liar? Dont act like you have no clue what im / we are talking dude...its pathetic.
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Just keep doing what you do, i dont care. Dig your own grave.
After 4 pages you still cannot understand the advice people give you. Arrogance or stupidity or both.
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Ross, i heard ya bro, the conversions are great, but the "Pay per active" sucks, webmasters want to see money right away, which is why we will do away with the pay per active next week and go to revshare.

We will send all our affiliates an email explaining all the new changes that we are making to the site to increase retention.

And trust me, there are some MAJOR changes that we are making to the site and members area to increase the member retention and trial to full retention.

homeboy said out of 16 joins only 2 stayed...you're saying webmasters are going to make more with the revshare because of retention, but if only 2 people stayed out of 16 that says alot about your site. Did you ever get advice from Alex? ( the one who signed and cancelled the same day)...


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, you're sounding like bush here...repeat and see if that makes sense...in revshare you don't see money right away...haha
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Ross, i heard ya bro, the conversions are great, but the "Pay per active" sucks, webmasters want to see money right away, which is why we will do away with the pay per active next week and go to revshare.

We will send all our affiliates an email explaining all the new changes that we are making to the site to increase retention.

And trust me, there are some MAJOR changes that we are making to the site and members area to increase the member retention and trial to full retention.
You dont get it do you?

His rebill rate is 2 out of 17. Thats 11%
He would do worse on the parthership. If you know you can do pps, which obvioulsy you cant, then do pps on the $1 joins. or raise the trial to $3 and do pps.
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:53 AM   #165
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You dont get it do you?

His rebill rate is 2 out of 17. Thats 11%
He would do worse on the parthership. If you know you can do pps, which obvioulsy you cant, then do pps on the $1 joins. or raise the trial to $3 and do pps.

Didnt he say he was retaining at 33% ? lol ..
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Old 05-08-2005, 10:54 AM   #167
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Are you also retarded besides being a liar? Dont act like you have no clue what im / we are talking dude...its pathetic.
No, why are you sidestepping my question? Tell me exactly what I should appoligize for.

You know what? There is nothing that I should appoligize for. You being Mr. negative just like to talk out of your ass. Thats it, pure and simple.

Thats why your side stepping the question. You don't even know what it is I should appoligize for.
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Why did you not answer my question? If PPS makes YOU more money, why not offer BOTH
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Why did you not answer my question? If PPS makes YOU more money, why not offer BOTH
Ok, let me answer your question and everyone elses, in one big answer...(typing)
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Metaformx stopping fucking aroudn with Franck who obviously wont promote you anyways and answers the real questions from actual webmasters.

According to the numbers given we cant make money from the pay per active or revshare. But can on the pps, if you say the pps works then why not offer both.
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No, why are you sidestepping my question? Tell me exactly what I should appoligize for.

You know what? There is nothing that I should appoligize for. You being Mr. negative just like to talk out of your ass. Thats it, pure and simple.

Thats why your side stepping the question. You don't even know what it is I should appoligize for.
How about lying to your affiliates, insulting the intelligence of everyone on this board, and personally attacking half of the people who are trying to give you honest advice.
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Ross, i heard ya bro, the conversions are great, but the "Pay per active" sucks, webmasters want to see money right away, which is why we will do away with the pay per active next week and go to revshare.
maybe right away, but in Ross's case it would be 16 trials at $1 and 2 rebills at $40, so $48 in the end(50% revshare)....thats even worse than the $70 he made with pay per active. Those 2 members wont renew probably, if 2 out of 16 renew for him...so he gets even less with the % program
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maybe right away, but in Ross's case it would be 16 trials at $1 and 2 rebills at $40, so $48 in the end(50% revshare)....thats even worse than the $70 he made with pay per active. Those 2 members wont renew probably, if 2 out of 16 renew for him...so he gets even less with the % program
I posted the same thing a few posts up. What makes you think he will listen to you?
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Why did you not answer my question? If PPS makes YOU more money, why not offer BOTH

Here, I'll answer... being paid $35 on $40 joins (trial + month) is hardly what I consider meaningfull PPS... but more of a 1 time revshare payment of 88% ...

Lensman sites also cost $40/month but he pays $35 on TRIAL signups... Thats meaningfull PPS ...

MetaformX's plan was just a bad imitation of the PPS model... and its undertandable that no one wants it... But then.. like Ross or andrejNDC said.. is the revshare model better? probably not...

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I posted the same thing a few posts up. What makes you think he will listen to you?
sorry man, this thread is too fast
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I just checked the alexa rank because I didn't believe that site is doing 200 joins a day and I was right
you are in the 100.000 range on alexa which means you get around 5 maybe 6-7k uniques
those NEVER do 200 joins

you're a big talker - nothing else.
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I just checked the alexa rank because I didn't believe that site is doing 200 joins a day and I was right
you are in the 100.000 range on alexa which means you get around 5 maybe 6-7k uniques
those NEVER do 200 joins

you're a big talker - nothing else.

If im correct.. it was about 5 or 6 pm on friday when he posted a screencap for the day indicating 214 signups... Wouldnt it go up to around 300 for the entire day? Yet he kept posting the number 200 ? Was it because 300 just didnt seem believable enough?
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I just checked the alexa rank because I didn't believe that site is doing 200 joins a day and I was right
you are in the 100.000 range on alexa which means you get around 5 maybe 6-7k uniques
those NEVER do 200 joins

you're a big talker - nothing else.
I just checked the alexa ranking for xgape.com and it was 654,000?

RealBigRacks.com was 138,000, and I know we don't do 200 joins a day.
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You just like to talk out of your ass.
How funny coming from you after a 4 page thread with your bullshit.
DUDE take EVERYBODY's advice here and stop bullshitting. Save your shit while you can. Come clean.
Fuck how moronic can you.

Your arrogance above business, well done kid.
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Jesus, this guy has the whole board against him and still act likes what hes doing is perfectly fine.

How can we wake up this idiot before its really too late???
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Ok, let me answer your question and everyone elses, in one big answer...(typing)

Please God no, not another load of bullshit. Just quit it now.

You're a new program and you don't have the cash to pay per join right off the bat, there's nothing wrong with that. Also, your sites are new and untested, and clearly aren't retaining very well at the moment. It's not complicated, just stop bs'ing everyone and making yourself look like more of an ass.
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can you also comment on the fact that you claimed your program does 200 sales in a day, yet alexa is contradictory of that statement. You even so much as made a graphic, yet very little can be seen, and it is no indication that those stats are legitimate?

Not a hater, but I don't like people who post "shady" stats. Not saying they aren't real, they just dont look real, and I'd like to hear your opinion other than "those are my stats, and thats that."
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If his site was doing 200 sales a day and a 1:400 ratio, it would have 80,000 unique hits a day. It would be around 7000 on Alexa. But it is more like 700,000 on alexa, it probably gets about 7 joins a day.
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If his site was doing 200 sales a day and a 1:400 ratio, it would have 80,000 unique hits a day. It would be around 7000 on Alexa. But it is more like 700,000 on alexa, it probably gets about 7 joins a day.


Wonder if he'll call Lensman a hater..
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HERE ARE ALL YOUR ANSWERS. MUCH LOVE! https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/465067-due-popular-demand-information-studiocash-com.html

The discussions will take place in the new thread. Why? So I can promote StudioCash even more
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Wonder if he'll call Lensman a hater..
Of course, Lensman is just jealous of his success


Besides only people who do 200 joins a day are allowed to give him shit, and we know that Lensman is nowhere close to that
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HERE ARE ALL YOUR ANSWERS. MUCH LOVE! https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/465067-due-popular-demand-information-studiocash-com.html

The discussions will take place in the new thread. Why? Cause I want to
WHY?? Because you're hoping nobody else sees you getting your ass handed to you in this thread.
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WHY?? Because you're hoping nobody else sees you getting your ass handed to you in this thread.
Thats right, keep handing me my ass. 16 new affiliates since 5/6/2005, none had referrals. Thanks GFY.
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Due to popular demand, here are some answeres to questions webmasters have about the upcoming launch of StudioCash

Featuring xGape and several other amazing sites that will be released soon.

1. What payout model do you currently have?
"Pay per Active", we pay $35 for every trial signups that becomes a full monthly signup.

2. What payout model are you switching to?
Revshare.

3. Why are you swititching to a different payout model?
Because "Pay per Active" sucks.

4. Will you offer PPS?
Yes, but not right away.

5. Why not offer it right away?
Go to xGape.com and see if you see a popup. See if there is a cross sale on the join page. See if there is a email collecting box on the site. You notice how all of that is missing? It is impossible to pay $35 per signup on a $1 trial when you don't have popups, cross sales, mailing, etc.

So in order for us to offer PPS right now, we will have to add in all those things. Can we do it? Yes. Do we want to do it right now? Not really. Why not? I have my reasons. No, I won't tell you.

6. A few people are saying that you don't have funds to do a PPS right now?
First of all, that is no ones business if I have funds to do a PPS or not. But I will say this, do you think I would spend all this time and money to create StudioCash with the intention of doing a PPS, and then not plan on having the funds for it?

If you look at our sites, you will see the attention to detail. You think I would put in that much detail into this program, and then overlook the most important part of it?

7. How big is your cock?
How did this turn into Ambush Interview #59?

8. Why does every StudioCash thread go to 4 pages?
Because there are a few people on this board who like to hate on StudioCash. But I love them (see #9 on why I love them). But deep down inside, everyone loves StudioCash even though they will not admit it.

9. Do you like the fact that every StudioCash thread goes 4 pages?
Lets just say this, controvercy sells. It's a fact of life. You can pretend it does not, but it does. Ask pimpdog why he made 3 "nigga this and nigga that" threads a day on GFY and got banned 5 times in a like a month. And you will have your answer. Thats all I'm gonna say You make your own conclusion.

NOW GO AND SIGNUP. THANKS

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Thats right, keep handing me my ass. 16 new affiliates since 5/6/2005, none had referrals. Thanks GFY.
You're either full of shit, or the dumbest son of a bitch to ever open a program.

IF this shit was really helping your business, the LAST thing you would do is tell the people you're arguing with that they're helping you, because if they believed you they would stop.

I vote for full of shit.
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If his site was doing 200 sales a day and a 1:400 ratio, it would have 80,000 unique hits a day. It would be around 7000 on Alexa. But it is more like 700,000 on alexa, it probably gets about 7 joins a day.
Lens, I can post my hosts stats when I come back tonight.

xGape has been up for 1 month only, I dunno how Alexa tracks exactly, but if you go to xGape, it sais mypic.com and that Goo Khim Yeong own it from Malaysia, which is not the case.

And I dunno why it is showing the amount it is, but whateever, I can post my hosts stats.

THATS MY LAST RESPONSE IN THIS THREAD. GO TO NEW THREAD TO HELP FURTHER PROMOTE STUDIOCASH.
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Old 05-08-2005, 11:59 AM   #192
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You're either full of shit, or the dumbest son of a bitch to ever open a program.

IF this shit was really helping your business, the LAST thing you would do is tell the people you're arguing with that they're helping you, because if they believed you they would stop.

I vote for full of shit.
Yep, which is why I have stopped responding in this thread, huh?

Fuck it, everyone respond in this thread. As a matter of fact, I will continue to bump this thread. Haha
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THATS MY LAST RESPONSE IN THIS THREAD. GO TO NEW THREAD TO HELP FURTHER PROMOTE STUDIOCASH.
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Fuck it, everyone respond in this thread. As a matter of fact, I will continue to bump this thread. Haha
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Thats right, keep handing me my ass. 16 new affiliates since 5/6/2005, none had referrals. Thanks GFY.

16 ? WOW AMAZING! I bet its Ross' post that convince them to join.. 2 joins converting on 16 trials... lol

We believe you MetaformX.. we believe you...

How long is your nose right now?

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bumpty bump. I am leaving for now, but I'll be back tomorow to bump the shit out of this thread.

Hell, I'll even post the screenshot for the new webmasters I have gotten from this thread only. You guys just tell me what you want, and I will do it.
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16 ? WOW AMAZING! I bet its Ross' post that convince them to join.. 2 joins converting on 16 trials... lol

We believe you MetaformX.. we believe you...

How long is your nose right now?
Yeah, 16.

They know a good site when they see one. Thanks for the bump.
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Yeah, 16.

They know a good site when they see one. Thanks for the bump.
out of those only 2 converted to full memberships so you don't have (at least in this case) NOTHING to be proud of....
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If his site was doing 200 sales a day and a 1:400 ratio, it would have 80,000 unique hits a day. It would be around 7000 on Alexa. But it is more like 700,000 on alexa, it probably gets about 7 joins a day.
thank you...
I thought I was the only person here with a clue
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I won't lie to everyone here, Xgape is a very nice site and I knew it would convert very well for me, but only if I was being paid the $35 per signup.
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