StudioCash chooses Partnership over PPS model.
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Metaform, I have much love for you man, your sites convert to trial amazingly well. But PPS isn't gonna be good for me
I made 16 signups with your site, and only got paid for 2 of them. So for 16 joins I got $70. Thats not so good buddy.
If you think Partnership can make your webmasters more money then thats cool, you know I'll send ya more traffic when it goes live, but I don't know if it will. Most people like to be paid $35 per signup.
Good luck with whatever you choose to do, your Anal Site is excellent, and does convert VERY well on the $1 trial. In my experience tho its not converting onwards of that.Comment
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Why cant this guy just make a honest post and admit he fucked up.
Just say youre sorry for all the bullshit and lies and hope people will accept it.
Instead you keep on lying and talking shit and everybody knows it. Personally i would never promote you after all your crap. And a lot of others wont either. Nothing worse than a lying program owner.Comment
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Ross, i heard ya bro, the conversions are great, but the "Pay per active" sucks, webmasters want to see money right away, which is why we will do away with the pay per active next week and go to revshare.Originally posted by RossMetaform, I have much love for you man, your sites convert to trial amazingly well. But PPS isn't gonna be good for me
I made 16 signups with your site, and only got paid for 2 of them. So for 16 joins I got $70. Thats not so good buddy.
If you think Partnership can make your webmasters more money then thats cool, you know I'll send ya more traffic when it goes live, but I don't know if it will. Most people like to be paid $35 per signup.
Good luck with whatever you choose to do, your Anal Site is excellent, and does convert VERY well on the $1 trial. In my experience tho its not converting onwards of that.
We will send all our affiliates an email explaining all the new changes that we are making to the site to increase retention.
And trust me, there are some MAJOR changes that we are making to the site and members area to increase the member retention and trial to full retention.

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Originally posted by FranckWhy cant this guy just make a honest post and admit he fucked up.
Just say youre sorry for all the bullshit and lies and hope people will accept it.
Instead you keep on lying and talking shit and everybody knows it. Personally i would never promote you after all your crap. And a lot of others wont either. Nothing worse than a lying program owner.
Franck, tell me what I should say sorry for? What exactly did I do wrong?
I should say sorry that we are switching from "pay per active" to revshare?
Is that what you want me to say sorry for?

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Originally posted by MetaformXFranck, tell me what I should say sorry for? What exactly did I do wrong?
I should say sorry that we are switching from "pay per active" to revshare?
Is that what you want me to say sorry for?
Are you also retarded besides being a liar? Dont act like you have no clue what im / we are talking dude...its pathetic.Comment
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Originally posted by MetaformXRoss, i heard ya bro, the conversions are great, but the "Pay per active" sucks, webmasters want to see money right away, which is why we will do away with the pay per active next week and go to revshare.
We will send all our affiliates an email explaining all the new changes that we are making to the site to increase retention.
And trust me, there are some MAJOR changes that we are making to the site and members area to increase the member retention and trial to full retention.
homeboy said out of 16 joins only 2 stayed...you're saying webmasters are going to make more with the revshare because of retention, but if only 2 people stayed out of 16 that says alot about your site. Did you ever get advice from Alex? ( the one who signed and cancelled the same day)...
webmasters want to see money right away, which is why we will do away with the pay per active next week and go to revshare.
, you're sounding like bush here...repeat and see if that makes sense...in revshare you don't see money right away...haha
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You dont get it do you?Originally posted by MetaformXRoss, i heard ya bro, the conversions are great, but the "Pay per active" sucks, webmasters want to see money right away, which is why we will do away with the pay per active next week and go to revshare.
We will send all our affiliates an email explaining all the new changes that we are making to the site to increase retention.
And trust me, there are some MAJOR changes that we are making to the site and members area to increase the member retention and trial to full retention.
His rebill rate is 2 out of 17. Thats 11%
He would do worse on the parthership. If you know you can do pps, which obvioulsy you cant, then do pps on the $1 joins. or raise the trial to $3 and do pps.Care about me?
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Originally posted by AlexYou dont get it do you?
His rebill rate is 2 out of 17. Thats 11%
He would do worse on the parthership. If you know you can do pps, which obvioulsy you cant, then do pps on the $1 joins. or raise the trial to $3 and do pps.
Didnt he say he was retaining at 33% ? lol ..Comment
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No, why are you sidestepping my question? Tell me exactly what I should appoligize for.Originally posted by FranckAre you also retarded besides being a liar? Dont act like you have no clue what im / we are talking dude...its pathetic.
You know what? There is nothing that I should appoligize for. You being Mr. negative just like to talk out of your ass. Thats it, pure and simple.
Thats why your side stepping the question. You don't even know what it is I should appoligize for.

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Metaformx stopping fucking aroudn with Franck who obviously wont promote you anyways and answers the real questions from actual webmasters.
According to the numbers given we cant make money from the pay per active or revshare. But can on the pps, if you say the pps works then why not offer both.Care about me?
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How about lying to your affiliates, insulting the intelligence of everyone on this board, and personally attacking half of the people who are trying to give you honest advice.Originally posted by MetaformXNo, why are you sidestepping my question? Tell me exactly what I should appoligize for.
You know what? There is nothing that I should appoligize for. You being Mr. negative just like to talk out of your ass. Thats it, pure and simple.
Thats why your side stepping the question. You don't even know what it is I should appoligize for.Comment
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maybe right away, but in Ross's case it would be 16 trials at $1 and 2 rebills at $40, so $48 in the end(50% revshare)....thats even worse than the $70 he made with pay per active. Those 2 members wont renew probably, if 2 out of 16 renew for him...so he gets even less with the % programOriginally posted by MetaformXRoss, i heard ya bro, the conversions are great, but the "Pay per active" sucks, webmasters want to see money right away, which is why we will do away with the pay per active next week and go to revshare.Comment
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I posted the same thing a few posts up. What makes you think he will listen to you?Originally posted by andrej_NDCmaybe right away, but in Ross's case it would be 16 trials at $1 and 2 rebills at $40, so $48 in the end(50% revshare)....thats even worse than the $70 he made with pay per active. Those 2 members wont renew probably, if 2 out of 16 renew for him...so he gets even less with the % programCare about me?
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Originally posted by justsexxxWhy did you not answer my question? If PPS makes YOU more money, why not offer BOTH
Here, I'll answer... being paid $35 on $40 joins (trial + month) is hardly what I consider meaningfull PPS... but more of a 1 time revshare payment of 88% ...
Lensman sites also cost $40/month but he pays $35 on TRIAL signups... Thats meaningfull PPS ...
MetaformX's plan was just a bad imitation of the PPS model... and its undertandable that no one wants it... But then.. like Ross or andrejNDC said.. is the revshare model better? probably not...Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 05-08-2005, 10:07 AM.Comment
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sorry man, this thread is too fastOriginally posted by AlexI posted the same thing a few posts up. What makes you think he will listen to you?
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I just checked the alexa rank because I didn't believe that site is doing 200 joins a day and I was right
you are in the 100.000 range on alexa which means you get around 5 maybe 6-7k uniques
those NEVER do 200 joins
you're a big talker - nothing else.Comment
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Originally posted by TraxI just checked the alexa rank because I didn't believe that site is doing 200 joins a day and I was right
you are in the 100.000 range on alexa which means you get around 5 maybe 6-7k uniques
those NEVER do 200 joins
you're a big talker - nothing else.
If im correct.. it was about 5 or 6 pm on friday when he posted a screencap for the day indicating 214 signups... Wouldnt it go up to around 300 for the entire day? Yet he kept posting the number 200 ? Was it because 300 just didnt seem believable enough?
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I just checked the alexa ranking for xgape.com and it was 654,000?Originally posted by TraxI just checked the alexa rank because I didn't believe that site is doing 200 joins a day and I was right
you are in the 100.000 range on alexa which means you get around 5 maybe 6-7k uniques
those NEVER do 200 joins
you're a big talker - nothing else.
RealBigRacks.com was 138,000, and I know we don't do 200 joins a day.sig too bigComment
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How funny coming from you after a 4 page thread with your bullshit.Originally posted by MetaformXYou just like to talk out of your ass.
DUDE take EVERYBODY's advice here and stop bullshitting. Save your shit while you can. Come clean.
Fuck how moronic can you.
Your arrogance above business, well done kid.Comment
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Originally posted by MetaformXOk, let me answer your question and everyone elses, in one big answer...(typing)
Please God no, not another load of bullshit. Just quit it now.
You're a new program and you don't have the cash to pay per join right off the bat, there's nothing wrong with that. Also, your sites are new and untested, and clearly aren't retaining very well at the moment. It's not complicated, just stop bs'ing everyone and making yourself look like more of an ass.Comment
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can you also comment on the fact that you claimed your program does 200 sales in a day, yet alexa is contradictory of that statement. You even so much as made a graphic, yet very little can be seen, and it is no indication that those stats are legitimate?
Not a hater, but I don't like people who post "shady" stats. Not saying they aren't real, they just dont look real, and I'd like to hear your opinion other than "those are my stats, and thats that."Comment
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Originally posted by LensmanIf his site was doing 200 sales a day and a 1:400 ratio, it would have 80,000 unique hits a day. It would be around 7000 on Alexa. But it is more like 700,000 on alexa, it probably gets about 7 joins a day.
Wonder if he'll call Lensman a hater..
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Of course, Lensman is just jealous of his successOriginally posted by xxxdesign-net
Wonder if he'll call Lensman a hater..
Besides only people who do 200 joins a day are allowed to give him shit, and we know that Lensman is nowhere close to that
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WHY?? Because you're hoping nobody else sees you getting your ass handed to you in this thread.Originally posted by MetaformXHERE ARE ALL YOUR ANSWERS. MUCH LOVE! http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=465067
The discussions will take place in the new thread. Why? Cause I want tosig too bigComment
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Fuck that....nobody bump the other thread....let's keep it all in this oneOriginally posted by MetaformXDue to popular demand, here are some answeres to questions webmasters have about the upcoming launch of StudioCash
Featuring xGape and several other amazing sites that will be released soon.
1. What payout model do you currently have?
"Pay per Active", we pay $35 for every trial signups that becomes a full monthly signup.
2. What payout model are you switching to?
Revshare.
3. Why are you swititching to a different payout model?
Because "Pay per Active" sucks.
4. Will you offer PPS?
Yes, but not right away.
5. Why not offer it right away?
Go to xGape.com and see if you see a popup. See if there is a cross sale on the join page. See if there is a email collecting box on the site. You notice how all of that is missing? It is impossible to pay $35 per signup on a $1 trial when you don't have popups, cross sales, mailing, etc.
So in order for us to offer PPS right now, we will have to add in all those things. Can we do it? Yes. Do we want to do it right now? Not really. Why not? I have my reasons. No, I won't tell you.
6. A few people are saying that you don't have funds to do a PPS right now?
First of all, that is no ones business if I have funds to do a PPS or not. But I will say this, do you think I would spend all this time and money to create StudioCash with the intention of doing a PPS, and then not plan on having the funds for it?
If you look at our sites, you will see the attention to detail. You think I would put in that much detail into this program, and then overlook the most important part of it?
7. How big is your cock?
How did this turn into Ambush Interview #59?
8. Why does every StudioCash thread go to 4 pages?
Because there are a few people on this board who like to hate on StudioCash. But I love them (see #9 on why I love them). But deep down inside, everyone loves StudioCash even though they will not admit it.
9. Do you like the fact that every StudioCash thread goes 4 pages?
Lets just say this, controvercy sells. It's a fact of life. You can pretend it does not, but it does. Ask pimpdog why he made 3 "nigga this and nigga that" threads a day on GFY and got banned 5 times in a like a month. And you will have your answer. Thats all I'm gonna say
You make your own conclusion.
NOW GO AND SIGNUP. THANKS
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You're either full of shit, or the dumbest son of a bitch to ever open a program.Originally posted by MetaformXThats right, keep handing me my ass. 16 new affiliates since 5/6/2005, none had referrals. Thanks GFY.
IF this shit was really helping your business, the LAST thing you would do is tell the people you're arguing with that they're helping you, because if they believed you they would stop.
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Lens, I can post my hosts stats when I come back tonight.Originally posted by LensmanIf his site was doing 200 sales a day and a 1:400 ratio, it would have 80,000 unique hits a day. It would be around 7000 on Alexa. But it is more like 700,000 on alexa, it probably gets about 7 joins a day.
xGape has been up for 1 month only, I dunno how Alexa tracks exactly, but if you go to xGape, it sais mypic.com and that Goo Khim Yeong own it from Malaysia, which is not the case.
And I dunno why it is showing the amount it is, but whateever, I can post my hosts stats.
THATS MY LAST RESPONSE IN THIS THREAD. GO TO NEW THREAD TO HELP FURTHER PROMOTE STUDIOCASH.

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Yep, which is why I have stopped responding in this thread, huh?Originally posted by Lenny2You're either full of shit, or the dumbest son of a bitch to ever open a program.
IF this shit was really helping your business, the LAST thing you would do is tell the people you're arguing with that they're helping you, because if they believed you they would stop.
I vote for full of shit.
Fuck it, everyone respond in this thread. As a matter of fact, I will continue to bump this thread. Haha

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Originally posted by MetaformXTHATS MY LAST RESPONSE IN THIS THREAD. GO TO NEW THREAD TO HELP FURTHER PROMOTE STUDIOCASH.Originally posted by MetaformXFuck it, everyone respond in this thread. As a matter of fact, I will continue to bump this thread. Haha
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Originally posted by MetaformXThats right, keep handing me my ass. 16 new affiliates since 5/6/2005, none had referrals. Thanks GFY.
16 ? WOW AMAZING! I bet its Ross' post that convince them to join.. 2 joins converting on 16 trials... lol
We believe you MetaformX.. we believe you...
How long is your nose right now?
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bumpty bump. I am leaving for now, but I'll be back tomorow to bump the shit out of this thread.
Hell, I'll even post the screenshot for the new webmasters I have gotten from this thread only. You guys just tell me what you want, and I will do it.

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Yeah, 16.Originally posted by xxxdesign-net16 ? WOW AMAZING! I bet its Ross' post that convince them to join.. 2 joins converting on 16 trials... lol
We believe you MetaformX.. we believe you...
How long is your nose right now?
They know a good site when they see one. Thanks for the bump.

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thank you...Originally posted by LensmanIf his site was doing 200 sales a day and a 1:400 ratio, it would have 80,000 unique hits a day. It would be around 7000 on Alexa. But it is more like 700,000 on alexa, it probably gets about 7 joins a day.
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