Which Hosts Have Their Own NOC(s)?

[Nysus]

National-Net obviously does, I know Swiftwill has at least one, and I imagine Webair does too.

Who else is there that allow adult? I imagine there are more than 20?

Matt

[pradaboy]

ISPrime

[Nysus]

Thanks...

Hmmm.. JupiterHosting is their own NOC?

Matt

[Paulzy]

IdealBandwidth, ExtremeRack, and AlphaRed have their own datacenters.

[Nysus]

Originally Posted by Paulzy

IdealBandwidth, ExtremeRack, and AlphaRed have their own datacenters.

Never heard of AlphaRed.. Any personal experiences with them? Thanks by the way.

Matt

[born]

Candidhosting... now Powermedium.com

They have a huge operation!!!

[Rich]

natnet is another.

[Nysus]

Didn't realize they changed their name. Thanks for reminding though.

Matt

[Nysus]

Originally Posted by Rich

natnet is another.

Yes, I mentioned that in my post.

Matt

[JUSTB]

We have 2 data centers in downtown Tampa, 1 in Austin, 1 in Chicago, 1 in Vancouver, 1 in Sydney, 1 in London, and I think multiple in Korea with Paris on the way.

[loverboy]

Originally Posted by Paulzy

IdealBandwidth, ExtremeRack, and AlphaRed have their own datacenters.

missed selling/promoting Extremerack, these guys are awesome.
btw, new kick ass design for ER.

[XPays]

we do but it is not for partitioning

[SinisterStudios]

We have our own Noc too, but not sure what that proves? Anyone who does hosting should have a Noc, if they dont run, run fast. You should be asking what hosting companies have their own AS numbers and own their own IP space.

[Ycaza]

Yep NOC here too and your frindly neighborhood mad scientist/nee sales dude is a real network engineer so if you like you can use me as NOC too, everyone does anyway.at least in this case when you call the sales guy he knows whats goin on and can do something about it

[Paulzy]

Originally Posted by SinisterStudios

We have our own Noc too, but not sure what that proves? Anyone who does hosting should have a Noc, if they dont run, run fast. You should be asking what hosting companies have their own AS numbers and own their own IP space.

ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?
Any host who think's theyre a big shot because they have an AS# and their own IP space, shouldn't have any customers.


What a fucking idiot.

[Theo]

let the host drama begin

[Paulzy]

Originally Posted by Nysus

Never heard of AlphaRed.. Any personal experiences with them? Thanks by the way.

Matt

Alpha Red is great, management is better than any other hosting, even those everyone whines (excuse me promotes) about here on GFY.

Unlike these other fuckers, like the 2 above my post, they have a REAL datacenter, that they PRIVATELY own and operate. NOT collocation inside some other datacenter.

Here is a list of providers who DO NOT OWN their datacenter, but rather rent space and COLLOCATE inside another datacenter:

SplitInfinity
PhatServers
ISPrime
ServerProvider (resells splitinfinity)
OC3 hosting or whatever theyre called (post right above mine)
SinisterHosting (or whatever theyre calling; post above mine)
ATCI
Hostive
Ch00pa
MojoHost


Those are the ones off the top of my head who DO NOT, GUARANTEED, have their OWN datacenters. If they claim otherwise, theyre blatantly lying, and anyone with a clue can verify that they do not own their datacenters.


The following DO have their own NOCs, to the best of my knowledge:

NatNet
Alpha Red
Webair
IdealBandwidth
ServerMatrix/ThePlanet
EV1
ExtremeRack



So you can see not many do, and a lot lie their ass off.

[reynold]

Originally Posted by loverboy

missed selling/promoting Extremerack, these guys are awesome.
btw, new kick ass design for ER.

Nice move man!

[SweetT]

OK....Normally I dont get into these types of threads, but I am afraid that my press release may have sparked some controversy here so I want to be sure that everyone understands. It seems that many people do not really know what a NOC is.....A NOC is *not* a Data Center. Let me see if I can put this in easy to understand form....

A Data Center is a room that houses servers, routers, switches, electricity, air conditioning, and lots of cables. This room is usually kept at about 68 degrees and is not the most fun place in the world to work at for hours and hours at the time.

A NOC (or Network Operations Center) is a room where 24 hours a day System Administrators and Network Engineers sit in front of screens and answer phone calls and monitor stuff. It is kept at a nice 74 degrees and usually is attached to another room where tons of Mountain Dew and KitKats are kept....(see Break Room)

Definition of Network Operations Center according to dictionary.com


Seriously, there are very few people who operate a "true" NOC and there are even less that operate their own, privately held Data Center. I have not toured most of my competitors so I don't know first hand who operates what, but I can tell you that it is less than you would think.


--T

[riddler]

Originally Posted by SweetT

OK....Normally I dont get into these types of threads, but I am afraid that my press release may have sparked some controversy here so I want to be sure that everyone understands. It seems that many people do not really know what a NOC is.....A NOC is *not* a Data Center. Let me see if I can put this in easy to understand form....

A Data Center is a room that houses servers, routers, switches, electricity, air conditioning, and lots of cables. This room is usually kept at about 68 degrees and is not the most fun place in the world to work at for hours and hours at the time.

A NOC (or Network Operations Center) is a room where 24 hours a day System Administrators and Network Engineers sit in front of screens and answer phone calls and monitor stuff. It is kept at a nice 74 degrees and usually is attached to another room where tons of Mountain Dew and KitKats are kept....(see Break Room)

Definition of Network Operations Center according to dictionary.com


Seriously, there are very few people who operate a "true" NOC and there are even less that operate their own, privately held Data Center. I have not toured most of my competitors so I don't know first hand who operates what, but I can tell you that it is less than you would think.


--T

Yeah most people do confuse a data center as a NOC, but most good companies have a NOC in the same place as the data center not some rented space and do the NOC stuff via ssh..
You dont like to be in data centers? I love them nice and cool and nice air flow and peaceful haha i dont know why but i love data centers..

[SweetT]

Originally Posted by MrC

Yeah most people do confuse a data center as a NOC, but most good companies have a NOC in the same place as the data center not some rented space and do the NOC stuff via ssh..
You dont like to be in data centers? I love them nice and cool and nice air flow and peaceful haha i dont know why but i love data centers..

I totally agree that most good companies have their NOC and their Data Center extremely close by...usually separated by only a wall or maybe a short elevator ride. You are exactly right.

As for being in the DC, I dont really know you but it sounds like you are a true geek (said with the highest of compliments). All true geeks say the exact same thing when they are touring a real DC. Most of them will get a hard on just looking at the setup...until you have to spend about 10 hours inside. I cant speak for others, but I know with a couple of thousand servers humming and over 100 Tons of A/C blowing it is cold and loud...nothing peaceful about it


--T

[riddler]

Originally Posted by SweetT

I totally agree that most good companies have their NOC and their Data Center extremely close by...usually separated by only a wall or maybe a short elevator ride. You are exactly right.

As for being in the DC, I dont really know you but it sounds like you are a true geek (said with the highest of compliments). All true geeks say the exact same thing when they are touring a real DC. Most of them will get a hard on just looking at the setup...until you have to spend about 10 hours inside. I cant speak for others, but I know with a couple of thousand servers humming and over 100 Tons of A/C blowing it is cold and loud...nothing peaceful about it


--T

lol, true i just like the hum of computers and how its a steady temp in there, not sure why but i love em :D i used to sit and do web designing at a job i had in their data center rather than sitting at a desk lol

[rounders]

nectartech does also

[Ycaza]

Originally Posted by Paulzy

Alpha Red is great, management is better than any other hosting, even those everyone whines (excuse me promotes) about here on GFY.

Unlike these other fuckers, like the 2 above my post, they have a REAL datacenter, that they PRIVATELY own and operate. NOT collocation inside some other datacenter.

Here is a list of providers who DO NOT OWN their datacenter, but rather rent space and COLLOCATE inside another datacenter:

SplitInfinity
PhatServers
ISPrime
ServerProvider (resells splitinfinity)
OC3 hosting or whatever theyre called (post right above mine)
SinisterHosting (or whatever theyre calling; post above mine)
ATCI
Hostive
Ch00pa
MojoHost


Those are the ones off the top of my head who DO NOT, GUARANTEED, have their OWN datacenters. If they claim otherwise, theyre blatantly lying, and anyone with a clue can verify that they do not own their datacenters.


The following DO have their own NOCs, to the best of my knowledge:

NatNet
Alpha Red
Webair
IdealBandwidth
ServerMatrix/ThePlanet
EV1
ExtremeRack



So you can see not many do, and a lot lie their ass off.

actually we have our own data center in downtown LA. all our privately hostted servers are there, but if you want to have bandwith in equinix or 1 wilshire or 1200 west 7th or the quinby building or in the bay are or vancouver or seattle where we also operate hosting facilities, both private and rented, you can have it. So please know before you go. No Isp on here has the peering we do. Please if you like don't use us, but quietly we are becoming a presence in adult. Thanks to our staff and customers, hey anyway thats enough bs from me. Point it is don't make assumptions.

[baddog]

SweetT: OT, but is there a way I can contact you, or could you please contact me? ICQ 16075497 works for me.

Thank you in advance.

[Hal]

do Liquidweb.com own their own data centre?
anybody use them?

[goBigtime]

Sadly, having a datacenter does not always = having a 24/7 staffed NOC.

[theFeTiShLaDy]

Alphared has their own NOC which is based in Houston.

[Ycaza]

if you have ever spent 30 or so hours in the data center you know real pain. Funny thing, I have been a network engineer/CTO for 5 years and i still kinda get a little flushed in a new datacenter, even those lame dirty telecomhotels in some places. I like to bring submissive girls to ones where we have lots of cages.....

[SweetT]

Originally Posted by baddog

SweetT: OT, but is there a way I can contact you, or could you please contact me? ICQ 16075497 works for me.

Thank you in advance.

Hey baddog....Sorry, but I don't do the ICQ thing...havent since like 1999....and I must admit that I get a whole lot more done without it than I ever did with it.

You can email me at tony(*DOT*)morgan(-AT-)natnet(^DOT^)com or you can call me at the office, toll free 1.877.471.9075 x222, however I won't be there until about 10am EST.

If I dont hear from you sometime this morning, I will call some mutual friend and have then ICQ you


--T

[SinisterStudios]

Originally Posted by Paulzy

ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?
Any host who think's theyre a big shot because they have an AS# and their own IP space, shouldn't have any customers.


What a fucking idiot.

Yup im the biggest idiot on GFY, i have been in commercial hosting for the past 8 years and have many large Fortune 1000 companies as our clients but im the idiot. Sorry i have no idea what im talking about and ill go crawl back under my rock since you are the king of the hosting world and i have to bow down to you.

[justsexxx]

I know isprime is located in the building where all servers are. So when there is a problem, then can walk in a few minutes to my server.(if needed)

However, they do not own the DC they use. (as far as I know) Of course they have their own ip's etc. And also the BW providers thay carry are many many
http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/23/AS23393.htm

Not sure what having an AS number means since I'm just a user. But they do have their own

Andre

[pradaboy]

Originally Posted by justsexxx

I know isprime is located in the building where all servers are. So when there is a problem, then can walk in a few minutes to my server.(if needed)

However, they do not own the DC they use. (as far as I know) Of course they have their own ip's etc. And also the BW providers thay carry are many many
http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/23/AS23393.htm

Not sure what having an AS number means since I'm just a user. But they do have their own

Andre

I thought they did own the DC... guess I'm confused

[various]

Originally Posted by pradaboy

I thought they did own the DC... guess I'm confused

As far as I know they're located at Telehouse - http://www.telehouse.com/

[loverboy]

Originally Posted by reynold

Nice move man!

thanks bro, im still scouting for the next Hosting company which I can
promote. My average sales was 10 servers/mon, dedicated server

[LBBV]

Originally Posted by loverboy

thanks bro, im still scouting for the next Hosting company which I can
promote. My average sales was 10 servers/mon, dedicated server

Hello loverboy,

If you're really interested in promoting a great host on a commission basis, please let me know. I can be reached at bill AT natnet DOT com. Ask around before you contact me so that you can be sure you're promoting one of the best

[baddog]

Originally Posted by SweetT

Hey baddog....Sorry, but I don't do the ICQ thing...havent since like 1999....and I must admit that I get a whole lot more done without it than I ever did with it.

You can email me at tony(*DOT*)morgan(-AT-)natnet(^DOT^)com or you can call me at the office, toll free 1.877.471.9075 x222, however I won't be there until about 10am EST.

If I dont hear from you sometime this morning, I will call some mutual friend and have then ICQ you


--T

Thanks, just saw this. Sending email now.

[loverboy]

Originally Posted by theFeTiShLaDy

Alphared has their own NOC which is based in Houston.

hey sexy, its been a while since Ived seen you around
maybe, we can hook up sometime

[loverboy]

Originally Posted by LBBV

Hello loverboy,

If you're really interested in promoting a great host on a commission basis, please let me know. I can be reached at bill AT natnet DOT com. Ask around before you contact me so that you can be sure you're promoting one of the best

got you in my list, you can drop me an ICQ message anytime.
looking someone to promote per monthly basis

[LBBV]

Originally Posted by loverboy

got you in my list, you can drop me an ICQ message anytime.
looking someone to promote per monthly basis

Just drop me an email and we'll talk. If you send me real business, I'll make sure that you're happy enough to continue to send me real business