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AdultDave · 05-03-2005, 07:32 PM

I wanted to get some advice on starting a paysite. I was wondering how much is enough to start a small paysite. I Have $2000 to invest in it. I need to have it designed for me. I also thought of buying a paysite template and using that but now sure i should. I can get the front end done for about 3 hundred bucks. any advice would be cool. ALso i know someone is going to mention the question ARE YOU A NEWBIE or HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THIS? Answer to that is i have making websites for about 3 years but have never made a paysite. sorry bout tha caps but that is such annoying question. The reason I want to hire a designer or do template is because I never really mastered photoshop to the level of some the paysites i seen out there. Any advice would be cool thanks.

cyber_ninja · 05-03-2005, 07:34 PM

youll need more then 2k just for content,keep saveing

AdultDave · 05-03-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cyber_ninja

youll need more then 2k just for content,keep saveing

okay but how much more do i need remember i said small paysite.

JSA Matt · 05-03-2005, 07:38 PM

Do you have a niche in mind?

steffie · 05-03-2005, 07:38 PM

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NaughtyRob · 05-03-2005, 07:40 PM

Contact me, I can hook you up with design and content. Turnkey for $2k

pornpf69 · 05-03-2005, 07:41 PM

why would you start a 'small' paysite?
why dont you make a big AVS (AEN) site?

bhutocracy · 05-03-2005, 07:42 PM

You should maybe start doing AVS or something to start out and understand the way everything works and build a little bank of traffic before you lose your $2000 cold.

AdultDave · 05-03-2005, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornpf69

why would you start a 'small' paysite?
why dont you make a big AVS (AEN) site?

I have got an avs already http://younglesbians.pornacess.com
converts 1 in 250 with other webmaster traffic.

After Shock Media · 05-03-2005, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pornpf69

why would you start a 'small' paysite?
why dont you make a big AVS (AEN) site?

Holy shit! what next a FPA as a sig?

xenigo · 05-03-2005, 07:43 PM

I guess if I include content, and all my equipment that I use for shooting my content, I've spent $20k+ on my site. And I wish I had started with more, to be honest. Remember also, the $750 VISA fee. Don't think of going into the paysite business without that.

Sly · 05-03-2005, 07:44 PM

Pardon me for asking, but do you already have a source of traffic?

beta-tester · 05-03-2005, 07:44 PM

I think you'll need at least 2K$ only for kicks ass content.
And you'll need much more for design and STRONG promotion (you want to make some money, don't you).
Well, personaly I think you'll need at least 5k$ for decent paysite which can be nice money maker in the future

NaughtyRob · 05-03-2005, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beta-tester

I think you'll need at least 2K$ only for kicks ass content.
And you'll need much more for design and STRONG promotion (you want to make some money, don't you).
Well, personaly I think you'll need at least 5k$ for decent paysite which can be nice money maker in the future

Again, like I said. We can hook you up with a good Kick ass content package AND design for $2k out the door. But I agree, you will need to pay the Visa fee, and get hosting etc on top of that.

AdultDave · 05-03-2005, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo

I guess if I include content, and all my equipment that I use for shooting my content, I've spent $20k+ on my site. And I wish I had started with more, to be honest. Remember also, the $750 VISA fee. Don't think of going into the paysite business without that.

I do not want to produce my own content and the visa registration fee is not a problem becuase the people at verotel say they don't collect it on the ticketsclub accounts.

bhutocracy · 05-03-2005, 07:48 PM

Other than that your only real hope is maybe doing a single girl site and paying the girl a % of the take.. which will be fuck all for months and months especially with no experience and only $1500 for promotion... assuming you don't have to buy a camera, hosting and promotional stuff like banners.

For $2000 you need some elements free.. content and design mainly (and your own traffic sources really but...). So either get someone to work on commission which won't work out in most cases because you don't have the resources to provide a timely return. And design simple avs stuff yourself.. or even the paysite. It doesn't have to be 3d effects and gradients to sell especially on your budget.

You're probably better off pressing the auto-timer on your camera and filming yourself fucking plush toys and blow up pool toys and putting it behind an avs than buying a $300 design, $800-$1000 of content and 800 in traffic promotional stuff, hosting etc.

AdultDave · 05-03-2005, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beta-tester

I think you'll need at least 2K$ only for kicks ass content.
And you'll need much more for design and STRONG promotion (you want to make some money, don't you).
Well, personaly I think you'll need at least 5k$ for decent paysite which can be nice money maker in the future

what about these on the net they say the do it for $350 some say $500off coursethis is design work only i would have to provide for them to design with.

sonofsam · 05-03-2005, 07:54 PM

AdultDave : if content producer is offering you a turnkey site including content + design... take him up on his offer... he'll work something out with you

AdultDave · 05-03-2005, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ContentProducer

Again, like I said. We can hook you up with a good Kick ass content package AND design for $2k out the door. But I agree, you will need to pay the Visa fee, and get hosting etc on top of that.

I got hosting But i need to upgrade the package for bandwidth considerations

NaughtyRob · 05-03-2005, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultDave

I got hosting But i need to upgrade the package for bandwidth considerations

Contact me on ICQ, we will work something out that you can live with I am sure.

Entropy · 05-03-2005, 07:57 PM

go with Content Producers offer...it's your best option at this point with the amount of cash you have

bhutocracy · 05-03-2005, 07:58 PM

If you don't want to produce content... then i'd just stick to avs with that budget.
Maybe i'm sounding a little defeatist or being too down.. but you are competing with 100000 other people with far more money buying the same cheap ass content and you are offering far, far less.

If you produce your own stuff you at least have content no one else has. Maybe if you pick up a fucked up weird niche you could do it.. but you won't be able to get enough content. Bleh.. Im serious about the plush toy sex. I bet you could make more money doing that than buying 2k worth of design and old content.

VividLeslie · 05-03-2005, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultDave

I wanted to get some advice on starting a paysite. I was wondering how much is enough to start a small paysite. I Have $2000 to invest in it. I need to have it designed for me. I also thought of buying a paysite template and using that but now sure i should. I can get the front end done for about 3 hundred bucks. any advice would be cool. ALso i know someone is going to mention the question ARE YOU A NEWBIE or HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THIS? Answer to that is i have making websites for about 3 years but have never made a paysite. sorry bout tha caps but that is such annoying question. The reason I want to hire a designer or do template is because I never really mastered photoshop to the level of some the paysites i seen out there. Any advice would be cool thanks.

Hi Dave,

Have you any theories of how you are going to obtain traffic?

Contact me at [email protected], I may be able to help you out.

Leslie

Tat2Jr · 05-03-2005, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhutocracy

If you don't want to produce content... then i'd just stick to avs with that budget.
Maybe i'm sounding a little defeatist or being too down.. but you are competing with 100000 other people with far more money buying the same cheap ass content and you are offering far, far less.

If you produce your own stuff you at least have content no one else has. Maybe if you pick up a fucked up weird niche you could do it.. but you won't be able to get enough content. Bleh.. Im serious about the plush toy sex. I bet you could make more money doing that than buying 2k worth of design and old content.

This is the truth of the situation. plain and simple.

gideongallery · 05-03-2005, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultDave

I wanted to get some advice on starting a paysite. I was wondering how much is enough to start a small paysite. I Have $2000 to invest in it. I need to have it designed for me. I also thought of buying a paysite template and using that but now sure i should. I can get the front end done for about 3 hundred bucks. any advice would be cool. ALso i know someone is going to mention the question ARE YOU A NEWBIE or HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THIS? Answer to that is i have making websites for about 3 years but have never made a paysite. sorry bout tha caps but that is such annoying question. The reason I want to hire a designer or do template is because I never really mastered photoshop to the level of some the paysites i seen out there. Any advice would be cool thanks.

for that kind of money i don't think you could start a pay site

I would make the following suggestion
1. find a sponsor that liciences their content as feeds ie top bucks
2. pick one of their sites (which sells the content as a feed) and build a custom tour and use the direct to join link.
3. start promoting it normally using the partnership program
4. when you have built up a good size re occuring revenue (enough to cover the hosting, feed cost, billing processing, shooting custom content) switch the back end to your own site, and fill the eps with your custom content

sweetcuties · 05-03-2005, 09:04 PM

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05-03-2005, 07:32 PM	#1
AdultDave Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 14	Starting a paysite I wanted to get some advice on starting a paysite. I was wondering how much is enough to start a small paysite. I Have $2000 to invest in it. I need to have it designed for me. I also thought of buying a paysite template and using that but now sure i should. I can get the front end done for about 3 hundred bucks. any advice would be cool. ALso i know someone is going to mention the question ARE YOU A NEWBIE or HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THIS? Answer to that is i have making websites for about 3 years but have never made a paysite. sorry bout tha caps but that is such annoying question. The reason I want to hire a designer or do template is because I never really mastered photoshop to the level of some the paysites i seen out there. Any advice would be cool thanks.

05-03-2005, 07:38 PM	#5
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05-03-2005, 07:34 PM	#2
cyber_ninja Twerk That Ass Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lincoln, California Posts: 2,197	youll need more then 2k just for content,keep saveing

05-03-2005, 07:38 PM	#4
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05-03-2005, 07:42 PM	#8
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	You should maybe start doing AVS or something to start out and understand the way everything works and build a little bank of traffic before you lose your $2000 cold.

05-03-2005, 07:43 PM	#11
xenigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,067	I guess if I include content, and all my equipment that I use for shooting my content, I've spent $20k+ on my site. And I wish I had started with more, to be honest. Remember also, the $750 VISA fee. Don't think of going into the paysite business without that.

05-03-2005, 07:44 PM	#13
beta-tester Rock 'n Roll Baby! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA, temporarly Posts: 22,562	I think you'll need at least 2K$ only for kicks ass content. And you'll need much more for design and STRONG promotion (you want to make some money, don't you). Well, personaly I think you'll need at least 5k$ for decent paysite which can be nice money maker in the future __________________ Sig for sale. Affordable prices. Contact me and get a great deal ;) My contact: ICQ: 944-320-46 e-mail: manca {AT} HotFreeSex4All.com

05-03-2005, 07:48 PM	#16
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	Other than that your only real hope is maybe doing a single girl site and paying the girl a % of the take.. which will be fuck all for months and months especially with no experience and only $1500 for promotion... assuming you don't have to buy a camera, hosting and promotional stuff like banners. For $2000 you need some elements free.. content and design mainly (and your own traffic sources really but...). So either get someone to work on commission which won't work out in most cases because you don't have the resources to provide a timely return. And design simple avs stuff yourself.. or even the paysite. It doesn't have to be 3d effects and gradients to sell especially on your budget. You're probably better off pressing the auto-timer on your camera and filming yourself fucking plush toys and blow up pool toys and putting it behind an avs than buying a $300 design, $800-$1000 of content and 800 in traffic promotional stuff, hosting etc. Last edited by bhutocracy; 05-03-2005 at 07:51 PM..

05-03-2005, 07:54 PM	#18
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05-03-2005, 07:58 PM	#22
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	If you don't want to produce content... then i'd just stick to avs with that budget. Maybe i'm sounding a little defeatist or being too down.. but you are competing with 100000 other people with far more money buying the same cheap ass content and you are offering far, far less. If you produce your own stuff you at least have content no one else has. Maybe if you pick up a fucked up weird niche you could do it.. but you won't be able to get enough content. Bleh.. Im serious about the plush toy sex. I bet you could make more money doing that than buying 2k worth of design and old content. Last edited by bhutocracy; 05-03-2005 at 08:01 PM..

05-03-2005, 09:04 PM	#26
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