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woj · 05-03-2005, 05:55 PM

50.......,...

alan-l · 05-03-2005, 06:02 PM

I hate designers

mcmc · 05-03-2005, 06:04 PM

Serious question:
Isnt it still illegal for you to do it?

Zoop. is illegal in Switzerland and it would be still illegal when i would host and operate it in the Netherlands, as i am a Swiss citizen. Is that not the same in the US?

Michael O · 05-03-2005, 06:06 PM

Congrats to all the people who guessed the official excuse would be rogue designer.

pornpf69 · 05-03-2005, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronald

Reminder : Who is Spacash ??

more drama?

SmokeyTheBear · 05-03-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Congrats to all the people who guessed the official excuse would be rogue designer.

And whom do you suppose would be to blame for pictures in a design logo ?? the salespeople ??

They didnt say it was the design people , they merely stated they are investigating them for the problem..

Again i would wonder whom exactly you would investigate if you found bad images in your design's ? i suppose its silly to ask the designer ?

J B · 05-03-2005, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mcmc

Serious question:
Isnt it still illegal for you to do it?

Zoop. is illegal in Switzerland and it would be still illegal when i would host and operate it in the Netherlands, as i am a Swiss citizen. Is that not the same in the US?

The sites are not run by a US company.

Michael O · 05-03-2005, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

And whom do you suppose would be to blame for pictures in a design logo ?? the salespeople ??

They didnt say it was the design people , they merely stated they are investigating them for the problem..

Again i would wonder whom exactly you would investigate if you found bad images in your design's ? i suppose its silly to ask the designer ?

I would blame myself.
When I am having something designed I provide the images or a collection of images to choose from isn't it the only way to do it to make sure that I have the license to use the content?

seeric · 05-03-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ytcracker

i wear my spacash shirt often

i wear my spacash hat all the time! trucker style!

SmokeyTheBear · 05-03-2005, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

I would blame myself.
When I am having something designed I provide the images or a collection of images to choose from isn't it the only way to do it to make sure that I have the license to use the content?

Well it depends on how it happened , if you gave your designer a bunch of content and he used some private pics to make the design 9 ignoring what he gave you ), you might not notice..( and dont htink this doesn't happen ) On 1-10 sites you might .on hundreds of sites like live interactive , you might not.. for all we know the site wasnt even ready yet..

sickkittens · 05-03-2005, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitasoy

I guess I'm not too late ;)

Late for what and why would you care?

SmokeyTheBear · 05-03-2005, 06:18 PM

does it make any sense at all with millions of legally licensed pics and a multimillion dollar rep would rip pictures from another site to give to a designer to make logo's ??

Michael O · 05-03-2005, 06:20 PM

But Smokey I understand your view the US sales people are taking the heat for something they have no control over. It sucks for them that someone in another company fucked up.
I personally lost faith in SpaCash with the amount of scamming and cheating in this industry I try to choose my sponsors carefully and the fact that someone within liveinteractive stole content or didn't do their work carefully enough by checking the designs makes me move on.
There are plenty of programs to choose from.

fireorange · 05-03-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

son of sam official response... i'm black

Can you add more black please? She looks great without you

Michael O · 05-03-2005, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Well it depends on how it happened , if you gave your designer a bunch of content and he used some private pics to make the design 9 ignoring what he gave you ), you might not notice..( and dont htink this doesn't happen ) On 1-10 sites you might .on hundreds of sites like live interactive , you might not.. for all we know the site wasnt even ready yet..

Then someone didn't do their job good enough not a trust builder.
I understand that people will continue to use SpaCash cause they don't see this as a big deal or that they see it as an honest mistake.
But I've seen to many scams over the last couple of years that I choose to jump ship when things like this happen.

mcmc · 05-03-2005, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by J B

The sites are not run by a US company.

yup, but i guess one of the owners is still a US citizen ... right?

Odie · 05-03-2005, 06:24 PM

Gerrard is good peeps. Can't wait to see you this weekend!!!!

SmokeyTheBear · 05-03-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Then someone didn't do their job good enough not a trust builder.
I understand that people will continue to use SpaCash cause they don't see this as a big deal or that they see it as an honest mistake.
But I've seen to many scams over the last couple of years that I choose to jump ship when things like this happen.

well i'm waiting to hear the end before the sig goes back up so we feel the same way

pornpf69 · 05-03-2005, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Then someone didn't do their job good enough not a trust builder.
I understand that people will continue to use SpaCash cause they don't see this as a big deal or that they see it as an honest mistake.
But I've seen to many scams over the last couple of years that I choose to jump ship when things like this happen.

there are so many scammers showing up day after day that it is kind of hard to move from something that has always payed you on time to something else...

khs · 05-03-2005, 06:45 PM

I learn something new everyday @ gfy

J B · 05-03-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mcmc

yup, but i guess one of the owners is still a US citizen ... right?

I have no idea... but I guess it doesn't really matter. Let's say you're a co-owner of a company in another country. That company does something that is legal in the country where the company is located but not in the country you're located. Let's also say you don't have any active position in the company. Would you still get in trouble in your country?

XxXotic · 05-03-2005, 07:17 PM

Argoz · 05-03-2005, 07:28 PM

See sig, it's free!

sonofsam · 05-03-2005, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fireorange

Can you add more black please? She looks great without you

lol

Satisfaction · 05-03-2005, 07:41 PM

damn missed my sig spot op

hammer2001 · 05-03-2005, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerard SPACash

I am a reasonable
business man and am I looking forward to meeting all of you.

Sincerely,

Gerard Della Porta
United States and Canadian Partner
SPACash.com

Hey Gerard, how are you doing. So you call yourself a REASONABLE BUSINESSMAN. Do you find it reasonable when one entitiy rips of the intellectual property of another? Is this your way of doing business?

Say, how do you personally feel about your company blatantly ripping of the entire webmasters' area design, stats table layout down to the font type from the old ARS? Any statement? Do you personally think your company would stand a chance of a snowflake in hell when you're in court for brand name and copyright infringement?

dig420 · 05-03-2005, 08:31 PM

I've always heard that the Danish guy that owns all that beasty shit is a real live shoot-you-dead style gangster. Surprised he never tweaked on this.

Fake Nick · 05-03-2005, 08:37 PM

and smokey how about the accusations of MardD ? ? also not to be taken seriously ? how come Gerard your buddy didnt clear that up ? or answered that ?? or is

ssp · 05-04-2005, 03:01 AM

A bumpsyboink.

Nylz · 05-04-2005, 03:12 AM

fris · 05-04-2005, 03:32 AM

is it just me or is fakenick always complaining about something. next he is gonna be complaining about a rash on his balls

Konda · 05-04-2005, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dig420

I've always heard that the Danish guy that owns all that beasty shit is a real live shoot-you-dead style gangster. Surprised he never tweaked on this.

The guy you heard about is Dutch, not Danish.

Most content on this site was however from another Dutch guy, they were smart enough to stay away from the guy you mention.

Konda · 05-04-2005, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

does it make any sense at all with millions of legally licensed pics and a multimillion dollar rep would rip pictures from another site to give to a designer to make logo's ??

It doesn't make any sense either to have your designers build a bestiality site when you onw no such content whatsoever.

mcmc · 05-04-2005, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by J B

I have no idea... but I guess it doesn't really matter. Let's say you're a co-owner of a company in another country. That company does something that is legal in the country where the company is located but not in the country you're located. Let's also say you don't have any active position in the company. Would you still get in trouble in your country?

im quite sure that its not legal to be affiliated with any biz that is illegal in your country, even if its a foreign company.

I mean, imagine you own a company (even if you dont have an active position) in the netherlands which deals those "legal" drugs there. That would be still quite illegal for you to do it as you are treated by US laws personally. Or did i get something wrong?
I mean ... if it would be different, you could do any kind of illegal stuff as long as you find a country where it is legal, found a company and lets people work for you...

SmokeyTheBear · 05-04-2005, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda

It doesn't make any sense either to have your designers build a bestiality site when you onw no such content whatsoever.

Thats a nice theory but you dont know that , i dont know that , and nobody in this thread knows that... except live interactive..

Your telling me you know every picture live interactive is licensed to use ?

J B · 05-04-2005, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mcmc

im quite sure that its not legal to be affiliated with any biz that is illegal in your country, even if its a foreign company.

I mean, imagine you own a company (even if you dont have an active position) in the netherlands which deals those "legal" drugs there. That would be still quite illegal for you to do it as you are treated by US laws personally. Or did i get something wrong?
I mean ... if it would be different, you could do any kind of illegal stuff as long as you find a country where it is legal, found a company and lets people work for you...

Let's say this company in the netherlands is traded on the stock exchange. You own 10% of the stocks but don't have any active position. Would you get in trouble in your country?

Konda · 05-04-2005, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Thats a nice theory but you dont know that , i dont know that , and nobody in this thread knows that... except live interactive..

Your telling me you know every picture live interactive is licensed to use ?

You are right, maybe they have some of their own content, no one knows, but why would they build a site full of stolen content if they have their own?

pradaboy · 05-04-2005, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

so do you like fucking dogs or rhinos better?

I'd take a meaty rhino over a dog any day

SmokeyTheBear · 05-04-2005, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda

You are right, maybe they have some of their own content, no one knows, but why would they build a site full of stolen content if they have their own?

I dont know but collectively they own HUNDREDS of paysites , so it equally doesn't make sense they would create ONE site with stolen content.. unless as i suggested it was RAMPANT across many domains, ( and im sure many content owners are scouring them as we speak

just to make sure that isn't the case )

Because i haven't seen the inside of the site only the tour that had the 2 unlicensed pictures so i can't comment on what i dont know.

But so far as we know we only have the 2 confirmed pics , and as much as everyone hates hearing the "designer" excuse , to me its the only reasonable explanation given so far.

mcmc · 05-04-2005, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by J B

Let's say this company in the netherlands is traded on the stock exchange. You own 10% of the stocks but don't have any active position. Would you get in trouble in your country?

Not sure, but first you would have to find a company on the stock exchange with illegal products .. which is not that easy i think

Lets say Company XY listed on the New York Stock Exchange is a nice company dealing with cocain and has its own sales network in the streets ... and i buy 10% of the stocks. Yes, i think that would be illegal in my country. (In the US as well i guess)

mcmc · 05-04-2005, 04:36 AM

the question is ... can you make something illegal become legal for you just by moving the biz to another country? I guess not.

Toolz · 05-04-2005, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hammer2001

Say, how do you personally feel about your company blatantly ripping of the entire webmasters' area design, stats table layout down to the font type from the old ARS? Any statement? Do you personally think your company would stand a chance of a snowflake in hell when you're in court for brand name and copyright infringement?

Good luck on getting a response to this

Dirty-Dough · 05-04-2005, 04:43 AM

Gerard
Why don't you just answer ALL the question put up in that other threaD?

J B · 05-04-2005, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mcmc

Not sure, but first you would have to find a company on the stock exchange with illegal products .. which is not that easy i think

Lets say Company XY listed on the New York Stock Exchange is a nice company dealing with cocain and has its own sales network in the streets ... and i buy 10% of the stocks. Yes, i think that would be illegal in my country. (In the US as well i guess)

Of course, you won't find a company traded on the stock exchange that is (openly) dealing with cocain. But there are many things that are legal in one country and illegal in another country.

Example: In many countries it's illegal to sell prescription drugs on the net but it other countries it's legal. You own 10% of the stocks of such a company in a country where it's legal eventhough it's not legal in your country. Would you get in trouble in your country?

mcmc · 05-04-2005, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by J B

Of course, you won't find a company traded on the stock exchange that is (openly) dealing with cocain. But there are many things that are legal in one country and illegal in another country.

Example: In many countries it's illegal to sell prescription drugs on the net but it other countries it's legal. You own 10% of the stocks of such a company in a country where it's legal eventhough it's not legal in your country. Would you get in trouble in your country?

not sure ... if its not something where the gov is investigating (like CP, and Animal P), i guess it wont be a prob.
have to check this with a friend of mine who is working as a lawyer ... he should know.

Roald · 05-04-2005, 05:13 AM

I ignore my clients all the time and use public content for my designs, it safes the client money you know ;)))

Turf · 05-04-2005, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe

I ignore my clients all the time and use public content for my designs, it safes the client money you know ;)))

hehehe... ;)

Rui · 05-04-2005, 06:20 AM

funny hows its always a hacker or a fuckup from a designer...

Anyway lots of unanswered questions tho
- why was it denied involvement with it at first
- the ARS ripoff
etc...

anyway i personaly prefer to say away from companys that work with beastiality (and don't come with the bullshit that its other company in your group that runs it,etc..)

V_RocKs · 05-04-2005, 06:27 AM

Let me help...

Dirty-Dough · 05-04-2005, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe

I ignore my clients all the time and use public content for my designs, it safes the client money you know ;)))

Its a good thing I told you to work with my exclusive content instead. And you've done a great job, must say...

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