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DomBuyer · 05-03-2005, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

ask walter.

Man, the haters are out tonight.

No, you said:

"i know exactly how many type-ins sexy.com gets and how it converts and the search term thing you posted here is another prime example of how that dombuyer thread misled people into domain valuations based on irrelavant info"

Don't make such a statement without backing it up. I was very free in what I wrote, and I helped a lot of people out, and now you're calling me out. Back it or shut the fuck up.

Satisfaction · 05-03-2005, 04:07 PM

thats some very large dollars saying no to.. he obviuosly doesnt need it.

XPays · 05-03-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

Look, my post was actually pretty innocent. I was surprised by my offer, and surprised by Walter's response. It's a lot of money to spend, and a lot of money to turn down. The contradiction in that says a lot about the domain business.

You'll notice I was very careful not to publish anything about my many conversations with Walter except that funny comment, which does nothing to diminish the value of his domain or anything about his game (if anything, he's getting tons of free publicity. Don't think I didn't think of that).

I offered him a lot of money and he didn't accept it. I'm posting it because I think it's fascinating. If you don't like it Evan, tough luck. It's none of your business anyway. I'll let Walter tell me if he has a problem with it, which of course he wouldn't.

i know the subject a long time and the subject has never been very "cheers" about adult and is conservative. ethics wise, please respect my feedback and i will respect yours. headed out - check back later.

your offer is not even close in my professional opinion btw and more importantly you should have kept it private.

and since walter is long-time client and you are exposing his business to everyone - i wonder why it is us who has had huge runs with him and not you...

XPays · 05-03-2005, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

Now you're ridiculing my offer. Noted.

moreso your ethics. trolling for deals is not something i would be critical of.

Luc · 05-03-2005, 04:11 PM

still looking forward to hearing from you dom, do you think this domain, when in your posesssion, will make $1mil inside of a year?

kenny · 05-03-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Luc

you don't see it because your view is probably based on a TGP approach, where you need tens of millions of visitors to make a few bucks.

though i didn't have names anything close to this one, i did have some great typeins over the years and i can tell you that they are better than gold. he'd be a fool to let this one go for $1mil, but i understand why you think it's a great offer.

No I am basing this on the approach that a million dollars worth of typins aren't going to be achieved within a year or multiple years with no marketing efforts for this domain.

Luc · 05-03-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny

No I am basing this on the approach that a million dollars worth of typins aren't going to be achieved within a year or multiple years with no marketing efforts for this domain.

well, i obviously can't convince you that it will. while i can provide evidence from domains which i once owned, i'm pretty sure that won't change much. typein domain names are valuable because their traffic is very targeted, therefore you can target the ads accordingly.

i respect your view and believe that with the right partnerships this domain name can make at least a million dollars within 12 months.

DomBuyer · 05-03-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

i know the subject a long time and the subject has never been very "cheers" about adult and is conservative. ethics wise, please respect my feedback and i will respect yours. headed out - check back later.

your offer is not even close in my professional opinion btw and more importantly you should have kept it private.

and since walter is long-time client and you are exposing his business to everyone - i wonder why it is us who has had huge runs with him and not you...

"exposing his business to everyone"

I made him an offer and he refused. End of story.

Did I say anything about how he runs his business?

Does he have his name right in the whois? Yup. Obviously not that concerned about owning this terribly "adult" name: sexy.com (domains by proxy, line one!).

As for you thinking my offer was too low: don't give a fuck what you think. Outbid me

As for you having long runs with him: good for you both. Doesn't reflect on me one way or the other.

One thing I can't stand is when people cluster bomb. It's destructive for everyone: Evan, you want to nibble away at me, contact me via iCQ--don't come in the back door. You're just looking like a shine-jacker.

XPays · 05-03-2005, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

"exposing his business to everyone"

I made him an offer and he refused. End of story.

Did I say anything about how he runs his business?

Does he have his name right in the whois? Yup. Obviously not that concerned about owning this terribly "adult" name: sexy.com (domains by proxy, line one!).

As for you thinking my offer was too low: don't give a fuck what you think. Outbid me

As for you having long runs with him: good for you both. Doesn't reflect on me one way or the other.

One thing I can't stand is when people cluster bomb. It's destructive for everyone: Evan, you want to nibble away at me, contact me via iCQ--don't come in the back door. You're just looking like a shine-jacker.

you do not take criticism very well but i will be the first person to compliment you when applicable. i am not surprised you resent my feedback rather than acknowledging that without splitting hairs you are sending out some smoke signals. If I see it, then so will others. back to your debate over the domain's value.

DomBuyer · 05-03-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

moreso your ethics. trolling for deals is not something i would be critical of.

My "ethics"?

Interesting. I said nothing about Walter except his name (on the whois and well known in the domain world) and the offer he refused.

You, on the other hand, have told the forum he does business with adult people, namely you (hmmm didn't know that) and then you chide me for very same when I never said anything about his business or what he does with his names.

I just wanted to buy the name. I don't operate adult sites, I operate ppc sites. So how am I revealing Walter's discomfort with Adult (which you noted)

Want to keep going?

DomBuyer · 05-03-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

you do not take criticism very well but i will be the first person to compliment you when applicable. i am not surprised you resent my feedback rather than acknowledging that without splitting hairs you are sending out some smoke signals. If I see it, then so will others. back to your debate over the domain's value.

You are trolling. You called me out, and I don't like it. Stop trolling.

XPays · 05-03-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

You are trolling. You called me out, and I don't like it. Stop trolling.

dude- cop a chill - i am out to pick up some new clients who are going to change my v.o.d. world inside out and you are all worked up over nothing.

if you have some desire to go toe-to-toe with me you'll need an appointment.

Drake · 05-03-2005, 04:29 PM

DB, are most guys playing the domain game lucky guys that registered great names early and made a killing during the internet boom and decided to continue buying/selling domains or are most of them from other online sectors or even from offline companies that see it as an investment like real estate that they can hold and perhaps sell for higher some time down the road.

Also, is sexy.com really worth a million in your opinion?

pornstar2pac · 05-03-2005, 04:48 PM

sig spot confirmed.

i see a girlfight happening soon here

Taboo · 05-03-2005, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

DB, are most guys playing the domain game lucky guys that registered great names early and made a killing during the internet boom and decided to continue buying/selling domains or are most of them from other online sectors or even from offline companies that see it as an investment like real estate that they can hold and perhaps sell for higher some time down the road.

Also, is sexy.com really worth a million in your opinion?

It's not about LUCK. It's about WORK. keep your eyes & ears tuned to current events/trends/news, etc... Timing is very important too.

You don't need 7-figs to play this game. Just start small. Go after cheap type-in domains to resell to DB and others or go after new registrations or brandable domains and work to find buyers.

I picked up a domain earlier this year that I've been after for nearly two years... I had to track down the owner because whois was a bit outdated and when I finally did track him down, he turned down my first offer and wanted 5-figs... I don't blame him for trying to play hardball. Keep in mind, the domain had no type-in traffic and I wanted it strictly for branding. I had a feeling the concept would be a tech-feasible & acceptable sooner or later. Well this year, I tried to buy the name again and the owner was in dire need of cash and was willing to get rid of the domain and sold it to me for less than $1,000. After I secured the domain, I started contacting all the players in that industry (service side & technology side) and am shopping around a proposal now to get cash + tiny % (if they choose to develop it). The current offers are low 5 figures (w/o %) and I'm going to try to push it into the 6's (w/ %) by letting the companies bid against each other. It was a domain/concept that wasn't even on anyone's radar years ago, never got type-ins, and the term wasn't even being used until this year... but I took a gamble (low risk) and it's paying off. There are many ways to play the domain game and many different pricepoints to enter the marketplace:

- new registrations (new trends, ideas, terms, industries, etc)
- brand-ables (many domain players steer clear of this sector. Fine by me.)
- type-ins (keeping or reselling to larger fish)
etc...

good luck.

GeorgeK · 05-03-2005, 05:34 PM

Hey Taboo,

Is Instealthmode.com coming out of "stealth" on 5/5/05? Or are things rolling over to 6/6/06?

Looking forward to seeing it go live!

cyber_ninja · 05-03-2005, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

That's what I offered Walter yesterday.

:food-smil

He turned me down.

A few years ago, I offered him $250k.

He turned me down.

Know what he said?:

"Dombuyer, you always make it hard for me to say no...but I figure anything you're interested in I should hold on to."

WTF???

Time for a lower profile

i own sexygothic.com ill take 1 million,lol just find me someone dumb enough to pay that much for it

Fukeneh · 05-03-2005, 05:42 PM

ill buy it from him in my name with your money for a small fee. fuck ill take 0.01% of the million.

KRL · 05-03-2005, 05:42 PM

I disagree on one thing you said Taboo. I think luck is most certainly also a factor as is lucky timing of being in the right place at the right time.

You honestly think any of the biggest domain guys are that much smarter than anyone else? I've met most all of them and ok they are all smart guys, but I have yet to meet any that I would label GENIUS. They just made the moves at the right time and snatched great domains. The domains created the wealth, not the buyers.

Taboo · 05-03-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeK

Hey Taboo,

Is Instealthmode.com coming out of "stealth" on 5/5/05? Or are things rolling over to 6/6/06?

Looking forward to seeing it go live!

a few sites are coming out of stealth mode. soft launch... continued roll-out over the summer. Plus big announcement for one site.

Taboo · 05-04-2005, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

I disagree on one thing you said Taboo. I think luck is most certainly also a factor as is lucky timing of being in the right place at the right time.

You honestly think any of the biggest domain guys are that much smarter than anyone else? I've met most all of them and ok they are all smart guys, but I have yet to meet any that I would label GENIUS. They just made the moves at the right time and snatched great domains. The domains created the wealth, not the buyers.

What some consider LUCK, others consider SKILL.

And there are some players I would consider geniuses... but maybe I'd change my mind after meeting some of them.

.

XPays · 05-04-2005, 03:46 AM

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Juicy D. Links · 05-04-2005, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

Of course. Who do you think I am? KRL?

I tried to pay by paypal, but I only had $24.

And Paxton wasn't around.

i have 6 bucks in paypal if you need to borrow it

slapass · 05-04-2005, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

I disagree on one thing you said Taboo. I think luck is most certainly also a factor as is lucky timing of being in the right place at the right time.

You honestly think any of the biggest domain guys are that much smarter than anyone else? I've met most all of them and ok they are all smart guys, but I have yet to meet any that I would label GENIUS. They just made the moves at the right time and snatched great domains. The domains created the wealth, not the buyers.

This does not sound like you. Take a peak at teh first 100 domains ever registered some time. I have known about the interent sine it beganand I never bought domain until 2 years ago. How many guys were in early and out early? More then luck to be there now.

FetishWeb · 05-04-2005, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

That's Borgos. Forget about him.

I just bought off Eric on SEDO, seemed like a good transaction... why do you say "forget about him?".

Drake · 05-04-2005, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taboo

It's not about LUCK. It's about WORK. keep your eyes & ears tuned to current events/trends/news, etc... Timing is very important too.

You don't need 7-figs to play this game. Just start small. Go after cheap type-in domains to resell to DB and others or go after new registrations or brandable domains and work to find buyers.

I picked up a domain earlier this year that I've been after for nearly two years... I had to track down the owner because whois was a bit outdated and when I finally did track him down, he turned down my first offer and wanted 5-figs... I don't blame him for trying to play hardball. Keep in mind, the domain had no type-in traffic and I wanted it strictly for branding. I had a feeling the concept would be a tech-feasible & acceptable sooner or later. Well this year, I tried to buy the name again and the owner was in dire need of cash and was willing to get rid of the domain and sold it to me for less than $1,000. After I secured the domain, I started contacting all the players in that industry (service side & technology side) and am shopping around a proposal now to get cash + tiny % (if they choose to develop it). The current offers are low 5 figures (w/o %) and I'm going to try to push it into the 6's (w/ %) by letting the companies bid against each other. It was a domain/concept that wasn't even on anyone's radar years ago, never got type-ins, and the term wasn't even being used until this year... but I took a gamble (low risk) and it's paying off. There are many ways to play the domain game and many different pricepoints to enter the marketplace:

- new registrations (new trends, ideas, terms, industries, etc)
- brand-ables (many domain players steer clear of this sector. Fine by me.)
- type-ins (keeping or reselling to larger fish)
etc...

good luck.

Cool advice. Thanks.

DomBuyer · 05-04-2005, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by XPays

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Just what I suspected: You were trolling me so you could sell your worthless domains.

Evan, in just one thread you lost any possibility of me doing business with you. I'm just one person, but it seems pretty dumb to me.

DomBuyer · 05-04-2005, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FetishWeb

I just bought off Eric on SEDO, seemed like a good transaction... why do you say "forget about him?".

Good, maybe he's reformed. He is one of the few guys in this business who screwed me. I'll never forget that guy.

cayne · 05-04-2005, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe

Depends on the situation but I asume he is right when he says when you're interested in it he should hold on ;)))

haha, true dat! :D

FetishWeb · 05-04-2005, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer

Good, maybe he's reformed. He is one of the few guys in this business who screwed me. I'll never forget that guy.

I wanted to deal direct with him in the future, think I'll stick to SEDO unless the screwing was over something other than domain buying.

KRL · 05-04-2005, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taboo

What some consider LUCK, others consider SKILL.

And there are some players I would consider geniuses... but maybe I'd change my mind after meeting some of them.

.

Dude, there's no skill in knowing Sex.com, Porn.com, Tits.com, Pussy.com, etc. were worth the reg fee back then.

polish_aristocrat · 05-04-2005, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

Dude, there's no skill in knowing Sex.com, Porn.com, Tits.com, Pussy.com, etc. were worth the reg fee back then.

actually there was some 'skill' ( maybe thats the wrong word though ) in that

if not, you would have done it and would own all of them now

Drake · 05-04-2005, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

actually there was some 'skill' ( maybe thats the wrong word though ) in that

if not, you would have done it and would own all of them now

It was definitely an investment with some vision (or at least a hope) that those domains would potentially be worth something some day. Then again those people involved in the internet before it was even commercially available to people other than techies were probably more 'in the know' as to the where the future of the internet was heading. Skill is surely a factor, probably with a touch of luck to top it off.

http · 05-04-2005, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Luc

typein domain names are valuable because their traffic is very targeted

Obviously depends on the domains, and I don't see how the term "sexy" is *very targeted*

It is not

KRL · 05-04-2005, 07:48 AM

Someone just made a $2,000 offer for one of my domains USACityGuide.com.

Would you sell at that price?

willysbirthday · 05-04-2005, 07:52 AM

No domain is worth 1 million - for the title alone

if it has associated traffic ... maby

Lee · 05-04-2005, 07:59 AM

Only read the first post but I think thats a more than generous offer myself.

radical · 05-04-2005, 08:24 AM

Not an expert on buying domains nor have any real interest in them, prefer to hold to a good name and build up the site!

Though I was contacting by an dating agency with regards to one of my domains:

datingpeoplerelationship.com, replied but never recieved any word again lol!

SeniorX · 05-04-2005, 02:30 PM

I wouldn't pay more than $50 for sexy.com!!! I own domains of this caliber, they're making some money (yes i know how to maximize on them), but nothing that'd be worth 1 million!!! DB, the owner probably didn't want to rip you off

zentz · 05-04-2005, 02:47 PM

heh... you gave him a nice offer for sure

DaddyHalbucks · 05-04-2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

Dude, there's no skill in knowing Sex.com, Porn.com, Tits.com, Pussy.com, etc. were worth the reg fee back then.

Sure there is! It's called vision.

Mark Twain said it best:

"The secret to success is - find out where the people are going and get there first."

pornguy · 05-04-2005, 02:59 PM

Damn nice offer, and I think that I would have taken it. Unless I had ideas on making coin off of the name.

DomBuyer · 05-04-2005, 03:44 PM

I wouldn't pay $1 million for sexy.com. Who offered $1 million for that name?

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05-03-2005, 05:42 PM	#119
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	I disagree on one thing you said Taboo. I think luck is most certainly also a factor as is lucky timing of being in the right place at the right time. You honestly think any of the biggest domain guys are that much smarter than anyone else? I've met most all of them and ok they are all smart guys, but I have yet to meet any that I would label GENIUS. They just made the moves at the right time and snatched great domains. The domains created the wealth, not the buyers. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

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KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Someone just made a $2,000 offer for one of my domains USACityGuide.com. Would you sell at that price? __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

05-03-2005, 04:07 PM	#102
Satisfaction WootWootCash.com Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 10,900	thats some very large dollars saying no to.. he obviuosly doesnt need it.

05-03-2005, 04:11 PM	#105
Luc Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 1,130	still looking forward to hearing from you dom, do you think this domain, when in your posesssion, will make $1mil inside of a year?

05-03-2005, 04:29 PM	#113
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	DB, are most guys playing the domain game lucky guys that registered great names early and made a killing during the internet boom and decided to continue buying/selling domains or are most of them from other online sectors or even from offline companies that see it as an investment like real estate that they can hold and perhaps sell for higher some time down the road. Also, is sexy.com really worth a million in your opinion?

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Fukeneh Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 1,245	ill buy it from him in my name with your money for a small fee. fuck ill take 0.01% of the million.

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05-04-2005, 07:59 AM	#137
Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kernow Posts: 2,977	Only read the first post but I think thats a more than generous offer myself.

05-04-2005, 08:24 AM	#138
radical Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bonnie Scotland Posts: 2,876	Not an expert on buying domains nor have any real interest in them, prefer to hold to a good name and build up the site! Though I was contacting by an dating agency with regards to one of my domains: datingpeoplerelationship.com, replied but never recieved any word again lol! __________________ ICQ: 166108967

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SeniorX Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302	I wouldn't pay more than $50 for sexy.com!!! I own domains of this caliber, they're making some money (yes i know how to maximize on them), but nothing that'd be worth 1 million!!! DB, the owner probably didn't want to rip you off

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DomBuyer Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Amalfi Coast Posts: 2,595	I wouldn't pay $1 million for sexy.com. Who offered $1 million for that name?