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sextoyking 05-03-2005 02:31 PM

Nice ovt on sexy :)

vvq 05-03-2005 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMan
How much would swingers.com be worth ?

tons!!!!!!!!

Dalai lama 05-03-2005 02:35 PM

wouldn't sell it either, do the match. few years ago $250k now $1m

Imagine in a few years :)

Downtime 05-03-2005 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DomBuyer
Of course. Who do you think I am? KRL? :)

I tried to pay by paypal, but I only had $24.

And Paxton wasn't around. :1orglaugh

lol that's one long fuckin payment plan!

Alex 05-03-2005 03:20 PM

Searches done in March 2005
Count Search Term
20260 sexy.com

If it was payment upfront i would have taken the million. If it was someone who offered to pay over a few years while he found people to sell to for more i would have kept on.

XPays 05-03-2005 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
Searches done in March 2005
Count Search Term
20260 sexy.com

If it was payment upfront i would have taken the million. If it was someone who offered to pay over a few years while he found people to sell to for more i would have kept on.

i know exactly how many type-ins sexy.com gets and how it converts and the search term thing you posted here is another prime example of how that dombuyer thread misled people into domain valuations based on irrelavant info.

DomBuyer 05-03-2005 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
i know exactly how many type-ins sexy.com gets and how it converts and the search term thing you posted here is another prime example of how that dombuyer thread misled people into domain valuations based on irrelavant info.

Really? How so?

Luc 05-03-2005 03:36 PM

lol. $1m for sexy.com is like spitting in the guys face.

you can make that in 8 months without any work, any promotion and any
$$ invested (other than domain of course). of course, with the present site
i doubt he makes that, though he may.

i dunno why you always want to make yourself look like the "man" in front
of the gfy crew by announcing shit like this. wow, you scraped together
$1mil (or not) off some venture capitalists or from the bank and you're
a high roller. haha.

the funny thing is, every time i see one of your posts it makes you look
more like you don't know what the *#*$ you're talking about.

sorry bud...

DomBuyer 05-03-2005 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc
lol. $1m for sexy.com is like spitting in the guys face.

you can make that in 8 months without any work, any promotion and any
$$ invested (other than domain of course). of course, with the present site
i doubt he makes that, though he may.

i dunno why you always want to make yourself look like the "man" in front
of the gfy crew by announcing shit like this. wow, you scraped together
$1mil (or not) off some venture capitalists or from the bank and you're
a high roller. haha.

the funny thing is, every time i see one of your posts it makes you look
more like you don't know what the *#*$ you're talking about.

sorry bud...


$1 million is spitting in his face, and *I* don't know what I'm talking about?

Does it occur to you that you are in the minority in your opinion? Does that ring alarm bells?

Luc, don't know why you always attack me. Your reveal yourself in your hatin' :thumbsup

kenny 05-03-2005 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc
lol. $1m for sexy.com is like spitting in the guys face.

you can make that in 8 months without any work, any promotion and any
$$ invested (other than domain of course). of course, with the present site
i doubt he makes that, though he may.

For the sake of argument

Without massive marketing efforts/resources I really can't figure how any domain based on typins can achieve such a feat.

Luc 05-03-2005 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
$1 million is spitting in his face, and *I* don't know what I'm talking about?

Does it occur to you that you are in the minority in your opinion? Does that ring alarm bells?

Luc, don't know why you always attack me. Your reveal yourself in your hatin' :thumbsup

lol, i'm not sure why i always attack your threads, this is strange, but i guess it has something to do with our conflicting views, and the fact that your posts deal with domains. i actually find it funny, i have no hostility towards you. honest ;)

here's my 2 cents, again. say you had some smaller name, ex: flashgames.com. say you KNEW this domain name made, say $100k/year without any work. would you offer the seller $100k and expect a sale? i wouldn't. you and i know that domain can make an easy million inside of 8-12 months. saying that you offered $1mil just shows that you want your GFY crew to recognize you for your brave act, but that $1mil was like your $250k bid since it was far from being in the range.

as far as me being the minority, well, lets look around.... how many of the people who posted actually qualify to value such a name? how many of them even know where to start? 4/100? now check those 4 and tell me what they said (ps: your opinion won't count in this one). ;)

peace

XPays 05-03-2005 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
Really? How so?

ask walter.

XPays 05-03-2005 03:52 PM

btw, i just called apple and made a $10,000,000 offer for itunes.com

Luc 05-03-2005 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny
For the sake of argument

Without massive marketing efforts/resources I really can't figure how any domain based on typins can achieve such a feat.

this is probably why you are doing whatever it is you are doing and you're not into domains. not insulting your intelligence, just saying that if you knew a bit more about the business, you'd probably be buying whatever is left (is there anything left?)

a domain like sexy.com is an easy retirement for just about anyone. just setup a partnership with someone like AFF and you're as good as gold.

XPays 05-03-2005 03:55 PM

i still do not understand why you would discuss a domain owner's business who is not hanging out on adult forums.

kenny 05-03-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc
this is probably why you are doing whatever it is you are doing and you're not into domains. not insulting your intelligence, just saying that if you knew a bit more about the business, you'd probably be buying whatever is left (is there anything left?)

a domain like sexy.com is an easy retirement for just about anyone. just setup a partnership with someone like AFF and you're as good as gold.

I never said that you couldn't make money off of it..

You claimed the owner could make $1,000,000 within a peroid less then a year without any serious marketing or development and I don't see that.

I think a million dollars for that domain is a great offer.

Paraskass 05-03-2005 04:00 PM

DomBuyer, will CKBL.com ever be worth anything as a media name you think?

DomBuyer 05-03-2005 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
i still do not understand why you would discuss a domain owner's business who is not hanging out on adult forums.

Look, my post was actually pretty innocent. I was surprised by my offer, and surprised by Walter's response. It's a lot of money to spend, and a lot of money to turn down. The contradiction in that says a lot about the domain business.

You'll notice I was very careful not to publish anything about my many conversations with Walter except that funny comment, which does nothing to diminish the value of his domain or anything about his game (if anything, he's getting tons of free publicity. Don't think I didn't think of that).

I offered him a lot of money and he didn't accept it. I'm posting it because I think it's fascinating. If you don't like it Evan, tough luck. It's none of your business anyway. I'll let Walter tell me if he has a problem with it, which of course he wouldn't.

Luc 05-03-2005 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny
I never said that you couldn't make money off of it..

You claimed the owner could make $1,000,000 within a peroid less then a year without any serious marketing or development and I don't see that.

I think a million dollars for that domain is a great offer.

you don't see it because your view is probably based on a TGP approach, where you need tens of millions of visitors to make a few bucks.

though i didn't have names anything close to this one, i did have some great typeins over the years and i can tell you that they are better than gold. he'd be a fool to let this one go for $1mil, but i understand why you think it's a great offer.

DomBuyer 05-03-2005 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
btw, i just called apple and made a $10,000,000 offer for itunes.com

Now you're ridiculing my offer. Noted.

DomBuyer 05-03-2005 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
ask walter.

Man, the haters are out tonight.

No, you said:

"i know exactly how many type-ins sexy.com gets and how it converts and the search term thing you posted here is another prime example of how that dombuyer thread misled people into domain valuations based on irrelavant info"

Don't make such a statement without backing it up. I was very free in what I wrote, and I helped a lot of people out, and now you're calling me out. Back it or shut the fuck up. :thumbsup

Satisfaction 05-03-2005 04:07 PM

thats some very large dollars saying no to.. he obviuosly doesnt need it.

XPays 05-03-2005 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
Look, my post was actually pretty innocent. I was surprised by my offer, and surprised by Walter's response. It's a lot of money to spend, and a lot of money to turn down. The contradiction in that says a lot about the domain business.

You'll notice I was very careful not to publish anything about my many conversations with Walter except that funny comment, which does nothing to diminish the value of his domain or anything about his game (if anything, he's getting tons of free publicity. Don't think I didn't think of that).

I offered him a lot of money and he didn't accept it. I'm posting it because I think it's fascinating. If you don't like it Evan, tough luck. It's none of your business anyway. I'll let Walter tell me if he has a problem with it, which of course he wouldn't.


i know the subject a long time and the subject has never been very "cheers" about adult and is conservative. ethics wise, please respect my feedback and i will respect yours. headed out - check back later.

your offer is not even close in my professional opinion btw and more importantly you should have kept it private.

and since walter is long-time client and you are exposing his business to everyone - i wonder why it is us who has had huge runs with him and not you...

XPays 05-03-2005 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
Now you're ridiculing my offer. Noted.

moreso your ethics. trolling for deals is not something i would be critical of.

Luc 05-03-2005 04:11 PM

still looking forward to hearing from you dom, do you think this domain, when in your posesssion, will make $1mil inside of a year?

kenny 05-03-2005 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc
you don't see it because your view is probably based on a TGP approach, where you need tens of millions of visitors to make a few bucks.

though i didn't have names anything close to this one, i did have some great typeins over the years and i can tell you that they are better than gold. he'd be a fool to let this one go for $1mil, but i understand why you think it's a great offer.

No I am basing this on the approach that a million dollars worth of typins aren't going to be achieved within a year or multiple years with no marketing efforts for this domain.

Luc 05-03-2005 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny
No I am basing this on the approach that a million dollars worth of typins aren't going to be achieved within a year or multiple years with no marketing efforts for this domain.

well, i obviously can't convince you that it will. while i can provide evidence from domains which i once owned, i'm pretty sure that won't change much. typein domain names are valuable because their traffic is very targeted, therefore you can target the ads accordingly.

i respect your view and believe that with the right partnerships this domain name can make at least a million dollars within 12 months.

DomBuyer 05-03-2005 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
i know the subject a long time and the subject has never been very "cheers" about adult and is conservative. ethics wise, please respect my feedback and i will respect yours. headed out - check back later.

your offer is not even close in my professional opinion btw and more importantly you should have kept it private.

and since walter is long-time client and you are exposing his business to everyone - i wonder why it is us who has had huge runs with him and not you...

"exposing his business to everyone" :1orglaugh

I made him an offer and he refused. End of story.

Did I say anything about how he runs his business?

Does he have his name right in the whois? Yup. Obviously not that concerned about owning this terribly "adult" name: sexy.com (domains by proxy, line one!).

As for you thinking my offer was too low: don't give a fuck what you think. Outbid me :1orglaugh

As for you having long runs with him: good for you both. Doesn't reflect on me one way or the other.

One thing I can't stand is when people cluster bomb. It's destructive for everyone: Evan, you want to nibble away at me, contact me via iCQ--don't come in the back door. You're just looking like a shine-jacker. :thumbsup

XPays 05-03-2005 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
"exposing his business to everyone" :1orglaugh

I made him an offer and he refused. End of story.

Did I say anything about how he runs his business?

Does he have his name right in the whois? Yup. Obviously not that concerned about owning this terribly "adult" name: sexy.com (domains by proxy, line one!).

As for you thinking my offer was too low: don't give a fuck what you think. Outbid me :1orglaugh

As for you having long runs with him: good for you both. Doesn't reflect on me one way or the other.

One thing I can't stand is when people cluster bomb. It's destructive for everyone: Evan, you want to nibble away at me, contact me via iCQ--don't come in the back door. You're just looking like a shine-jacker. :thumbsup

you do not take criticism very well but i will be the first person to compliment you when applicable. i am not surprised you resent my feedback rather than acknowledging that without splitting hairs you are sending out some smoke signals. If I see it, then so will others. back to your debate over the domain's value.

DomBuyer 05-03-2005 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
moreso your ethics. trolling for deals is not something i would be critical of.

My "ethics"?

Interesting. I said nothing about Walter except his name (on the whois and well known in the domain world) and the offer he refused.

You, on the other hand, have told the forum he does business with adult people, namely you (hmmm didn't know that) and then you chide me for very same when I never said anything about his business or what he does with his names. :1orglaugh

I just wanted to buy the name. I don't operate adult sites, I operate ppc sites. So how am I revealing Walter's discomfort with Adult (which you noted) :1orglaugh

Want to keep going?

DomBuyer 05-03-2005 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
you do not take criticism very well but i will be the first person to compliment you when applicable. i am not surprised you resent my feedback rather than acknowledging that without splitting hairs you are sending out some smoke signals. If I see it, then so will others. back to your debate over the domain's value.

You are trolling. You called me out, and I don't like it. Stop trolling.

XPays 05-03-2005 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
You are trolling. You called me out, and I don't like it. Stop trolling.

dude- cop a chill - i am out to pick up some new clients who are going to change my v.o.d. world inside out and you are all worked up over nothing.

if you have some desire to go toe-to-toe with me you'll need an appointment.

Drake 05-03-2005 04:29 PM

DB, are most guys playing the domain game lucky guys that registered great names early and made a killing during the internet boom and decided to continue buying/selling domains or are most of them from other online sectors or even from offline companies that see it as an investment like real estate that they can hold and perhaps sell for higher some time down the road.

Also, is sexy.com really worth a million in your opinion?

pornstar2pac 05-03-2005 04:48 PM

sig spot confirmed.

i see a girlfight happening soon here

Taboo 05-03-2005 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike33
DB, are most guys playing the domain game lucky guys that registered great names early and made a killing during the internet boom and decided to continue buying/selling domains or are most of them from other online sectors or even from offline companies that see it as an investment like real estate that they can hold and perhaps sell for higher some time down the road.

Also, is sexy.com really worth a million in your opinion?


It's not about LUCK. It's about WORK. keep your eyes & ears tuned to current events/trends/news, etc... Timing is very important too.

You don't need 7-figs to play this game. Just start small. Go after cheap type-in domains to resell to DB and others or go after new registrations or brandable domains and work to find buyers.

I picked up a domain earlier this year that I've been after for nearly two years... I had to track down the owner because whois was a bit outdated and when I finally did track him down, he turned down my first offer and wanted 5-figs... I don't blame him for trying to play hardball. Keep in mind, the domain had no type-in traffic and I wanted it strictly for branding. I had a feeling the concept would be a tech-feasible & acceptable sooner or later. Well this year, I tried to buy the name again and the owner was in dire need of cash and was willing to get rid of the domain and sold it to me for less than $1,000. After I secured the domain, I started contacting all the players in that industry (service side & technology side) and am shopping around a proposal now to get cash + tiny % (if they choose to develop it). The current offers are low 5 figures (w/o %) and I'm going to try to push it into the 6's (w/ %) by letting the companies bid against each other. It was a domain/concept that wasn't even on anyone's radar years ago, never got type-ins, and the term wasn't even being used until this year... but I took a gamble (low risk) and it's paying off. There are many ways to play the domain game and many different pricepoints to enter the marketplace:

- new registrations (new trends, ideas, terms, industries, etc)
- brand-ables (many domain players steer clear of this sector. Fine by me.)
- type-ins (keeping or reselling to larger fish)
etc...

good luck.

GeorgeK 05-03-2005 05:34 PM

Hey Taboo,

Is Instealthmode.com coming out of "stealth" on 5/5/05? Or are things rolling over to 6/6/06? :)

Looking forward to seeing it go live! :)

cyber_ninja 05-03-2005 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomBuyer
That's what I offered Walter yesterday.

:food-smil :love-boob :jerkoff

He turned me down.

A few years ago, I offered him $250k.

He turned me down.

Know what he said?:

"Dombuyer, you always make it hard for me to say no...but I figure anything you're interested in I should hold on to."

WTF???

Time for a lower profile :( :disgust

i own sexygothic.com ill take 1 million,lol just find me someone dumb enough to pay that much for it

Fukeneh 05-03-2005 05:42 PM

ill buy it from him in my name with your money for a small fee. fuck ill take 0.01% of the million.

KRL 05-03-2005 05:42 PM

I disagree on one thing you said Taboo. I think luck is most certainly also a factor as is lucky timing of being in the right place at the right time.

You honestly think any of the biggest domain guys are that much smarter than anyone else? I've met most all of them and ok they are all smart guys, but I have yet to meet any that I would label GENIUS. They just made the moves at the right time and snatched great domains. The domains created the wealth, not the buyers.

Taboo 05-03-2005 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeK
Hey Taboo,

Is Instealthmode.com coming out of "stealth" on 5/5/05? Or are things rolling over to 6/6/06? :)

Looking forward to seeing it go live! :)

a few sites are coming out of stealth mode. soft launch... continued roll-out over the summer. Plus big announcement for one site.

:thumbsup


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