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Old 04-29-2005, 08:05 AM   #1
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I want to begin by stating that I am sorry for offending anyone at the phoenix forum or any show for that matter.
I was drunk and I acknowledge that and I've come to realize that this sort of behavior isn't good for myself or business in general.
I would ask you all to please move on, let's talk about what I'm good at, making traffic convert into sales rather than what you've heard I did or what may or may not have happened.

Stewie and Vanilla I apologize to you specifically this whole issue has been dragged far too long through every message board imagineable. I wish we could reconcile and perhaps do some business as a step towards puting this behind us. I am sorry for the ignorant and immature comments I made to you in your contest thread.

I've decided not to drink any more period. I don't enjoy it and I seem to get too comfortable with being loud (I am plenty loud enough sober if you know me) TO my friends thankyou for being supportive, to my affiliates and the webmaster community in general, I'm around hit me up and we'll make some money together.

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Old 04-29-2005, 08:08 AM   #2
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The 12 steps to recovery....

Step 8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:10 AM   #3
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wise decision.. very admirable
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:17 AM   #6
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Now there's Rinaldo...
A sincere apology can go such a long way. Admirable.
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:18 AM   #7
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takes balls to get to this point and by the looks of it you lost some things as well - from this point you can start to rebuild and to get further than you where before - good luck
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:22 AM   #8
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takes balls to get to this point and by the looks of it you lost some things as well - from this point you can start to rebuild and to get further than you where before - good luck
I couldn't agree more.

THanks Sweetums and Tanker
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:24 AM   #9
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:26 AM   #10
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ahh the guy who wanted to start shit with me for no reason, call me names and such got fired

ahem, quit.

honestly i for one am glad. and again, consider yourself lucky. im sure ole stewie has been stewing on beating your brains in.
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:28 AM   #11
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ahh the guy who wanted to start shit with me for no reason, call me names and such got fired

ahem, quit.

honestly i for one am glad. and again, consider yourself lucky. im sure ole stewie has been stewing on beating your brains in.

WHY WHY WHY must you ruin a perfectly honest thread?
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:31 AM   #12
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WHY WHY WHY must you ruin a perfectly honest thread?
i dont know why, you started with me remember? calling people fuck head and blah blah blah. dont act like you dont know wtf im talking about, icq dont forget you know...

glad plat bucks shook you off like a bad case of fleas.

aff reps now a days seem to forget that they represent a company, and that there actions reflect directly back to that company.
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:33 AM   #13
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:34 AM   #14
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haha rinaldo..you can expect one moron in every thread


so often it turns out to be Brandon though...hmm go figure

Good on you for apologizing and trying to make things right.

Best wishes, im sure i'll be seeing you soon regardless!!!
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Great thread.. taking responsibility for your actions and taking steps to rectify them is stand up bro.
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:38 AM   #16
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haha rinaldo..you can expect one moron in every thread


so often it turns out to be Brandon though...hmm go figure

Good on you for apologizing and trying to make things right.

Best wishes, im sure i'll be seeing you soon regardless!!!
eat cock pussy boy, you dont know wtf happened with me and this clown.

go back to sucking on sales reps tits, the 1 thing you are good at.
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haha rinaldo..you can expect one moron in every thread
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Old 04-29-2005, 08:42 AM   #18
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eat cock pussy boy, you dont know wtf happened with me and this clown.

go back to sucking on sales reps tits, the 1 thing you are good at.

Hey tough guy, go piss on someone elses thread please. And FYI, I wasn't let go. You can ask some people and find that out. Thanks for the nice story though I'll make sure to tell it to my daughter at bedtime and get a nice laugh from her.
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Hey tough guy, go piss on someone elses thread please. And FYI, I wasn't let go. You can ask some people and find that out. Thanks for the nice story though I'll make sure to tell it to my daughter at bedtime and get a nice laugh from her.
riiiight
so lets get this right. you attack people on message boards, then almost assult a couple models at a show. in front of some big players from what ive been told and youve been made employee of the week....

sale that shit to someone else, as im not buying.
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nice pology Naldo, don't sweat it too much
though. by next show it will be someone else and you will be clean.

that's why I always say you should only do coke at shows. drinking is for sporting events too boring to watch otherwise(beisbol, wnba), performance driving and recklessly operating water craft.
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eat cock pussy boy, you dont know wtf happened with me and this clown.

go back to sucking on sales reps tits, the 1 thing you are good at.
Regardless of what happened between you, I got to say your the one that's coming of as childish asshat in thread that Rinaldo is being a standup guy and trying right any perceived or actual wrongs...
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nice pology Naldo, don't sweat it too much
though. by next show it will be someone else and you will be clean.

that's why I always say you should only do coke at shows. drinking is for sporting events too boring to watch otherwise(beisbol, wnba), performance driving and recklessly operating water craft.
Patrick that's an interesting way to look at things lol
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Man.. be easy. Don't let the insecure people get at you.

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RINI! Look at you go! Impressive and thanks for hokking me up with some stuff from your apt! It makes a nice addition. That's the right attitude.

HOWEVER you left me high and dry no good bye no sighing off ho hug no nothing. *SULK*
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RINI! Look at you go! Impressive and thanks for hokking me up with some stuff from your apt! It makes a nice addition. That's the right attitude.

HOWEVER you left me high and dry no good bye no sighing off ho hug no nothing. *SULK*

I didn't plan on staying lover boy, I made the decision once I got down here and saw what I'd been missing.
I owe you a lot more than a hug
Let me know if you got what I needed out of there. And let's do some business !
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awesome stuff Rini...takes a big person to admit when they're wrong. much love to you and may your vibrant personality take you somewhere bright!!
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awesome stuff Rini...takes a big person to admit when they're wrong. much love to you and may your vibrant personality take you somewhere bright!!

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Stewie and Vanilla I apologize to you specifically this whole issue has been dragged far too long through every message board imagineable. I wish we could reconcile and perhaps do some business as a step towards puting this behind us. I am sorry for the ignorant and immature comments I made to you in your contest thread.
ok, the apology was decent but the part about doing business after what happened - dude - show some class. At this point that would be for THEM to bring up - not you. That part left a VERY bad taste in my mouth.
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ok, the apology was decent but the part about doing business after what happened - dude - show some class. At this point that would be for THEM to bring up - not you. That part left a VERY bad taste in my mouth.

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You know what ..

This is the first time I have read all this and found out what the hell happened in Phoenix..


Rinaldo.. If that was my wife you did that to, I would have knocked every tooth out of your mouth no questions asked!!! Period.
I just hope you thank your lucky stars that Stewie is a calm reasonable person!



As for apologizing and blaming alcohol, I sure hope you are sincere. It sounds like you are. I don't see anything about you apologizing for your behavior at Myst In phoenix though!


I have to agree with Sleazy regarding the "let's do some business" It is not the best time to make this comment.
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I want to begin by stating that I am sorry for offending anyone at the phoenix forum or any show for that matter.
I was drunk and I acknowledge that and I've come to realize that this sort of behavior isn't good for myself or business in general.
I would ask you all to please move on, let's talk about what I'm good at, making traffic convert into sales rather than what you've heard I did or what may or may not have happened.

Stewie and Vanilla I apologize to you specifically this whole issue has been dragged far too long through every message board imagineable. I wish we could reconcile and perhaps do some business as a step towards puting this behind us. I am sorry for the ignorant and immature comments I made to you in your contest thread.

I've decided not to drink any more period. I don't enjoy it and I seem to get too comfortable with being loud (I am plenty loud enough sober if you know me) TO my friends thankyou for being supportive, to my affiliates and the webmaster community in general, I'm around hit me up and we'll make some money together.

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It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.
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Did alcohol make you post all of the rude comments and accusations after the "club night" as well, several days later?
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It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.
wow

i didn't know what happened in phoenix but i know stewie and vanilla
- they ARE solid good people that I have spent a lot of time with - and after reading that I can see why Rinaldo got fired.
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:19 PM   #40
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sorry, this is a lame attempt at someone who seriously fucked up to try and save what little respect he has left in this biz....if any at all

i hope you find another job in the industry dude, but god forbid it be with anyone I do business with, but judging from those posting in this thread, it won't be
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:23 PM   #41
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here we go, this sums it all up right here

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you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.
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you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.
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Originally Posted by Stewie
you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.
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Originally Posted by Stewie
you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.
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Originally Posted by Stewie
you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:30 PM   #42
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Rinaldo,

You just don't get it. You got drunk, happens to the best of us, but you were fully aware of all your actions afterwards. I agree with Stewie.

I know both Vanilla and Stewie very well, and I can confidently say that it was your post-actions that led to your downfall. Say what you like, I hardly say a bad thing about anyone, do a search if you like.

Knowing both of them, they certainly are not ones to lie and you attempted to ruin their business credibility. And now you make a post looking for business?

You don't have my support.
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:30 PM   #43
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Well knowing what i know, and what i read here in this post, plus being sober over 16 years...recovery begins with being honest to yourself...

to thy self be true...


Hope this has a happy ending!
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:32 PM   #44
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Rinaldo,

It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.

Since Stewie is being nice and taking the high road, let me say this:

Last time, I asked Stewie not to go after you in the club... If you ever come near me again and I WILL PERSONALLY kick your pansy ass!! Stewie can have what's left.

P.S. This also goes if you touch any of my girlfriends!
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:32 PM   #45
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Those of you who know me know that I don't party too hard at shows or events. The drama that results from uninhibited bad behavior is the reason why. I strive to show respect to everyone I deal with both professionally and personally. I wasn't at the Pheonix Forum, nor do I know what happened. But I do know Stewie and Vanilla and consider them to be honest and trustworthy friends. I commend Rinaldo for apologizing but empathize with Stewie. I hope to never find myself in that kind of situation - ever!
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:32 PM   #46
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sorry, this is a lame attempt at someone who seriously fucked up to try and save what little respect he has left in this biz....if any at all

i hope you find another job in the industry dude, but god forbid it be with anyone I do business with, but judging from those posting in this thread, it won't be
Honestly Jace, if he would have apologized for the initial incident, I promise I would never say a word. But attempting to ruin their credibility is the clincher for me.

I really do not care how many sheep come in and support him for prom king or whatever election components this board sometimes seems made up of.
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:38 PM   #47
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Rinaldo,

It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.
Very honest and well spoken post Stewie, like we discussed before, whats right is whats right, period! And this joker still has not admitted disrespecting you and your lovely wife. IMO he still deserves an ass whippin' by Stewie and several others that he offended. Nonetheless good reply
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:42 PM   #48
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Vanilla and I are very thankful, overwhelmed really, at all of the love and support we have received through all of this drama. It means a lot to us, especially since we realize that this is a touchy issue, and on an public industry forum. Thank you all!!
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:45 PM   #49
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Rinaldo, bro -

This quote about sums it all up!

Take a step back and be honest with yourself first. Then, and only then - try to make amands to the people you insulted and/or harmed.

... and do it privately. No need to make any further spectacle out of this.

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Old 04-29-2005, 07:46 PM   #50
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Vanilla and I are very thankful, overwhelmed really, at all of the love and support we have received through all of this drama. It means a lot to us, especially since we realize that this is a touchy issue, and on an public industry forum. Thank you all!!
You are both very patient people. I know that I got drunk one night and fondled you even after Vanilla asked me to stop. I thought she was going to beat me down.

Last time I drink a bottle of Blush Wine with you....
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