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Rinaldo · 04-29-2005, 08:05 AM

I want to begin by stating that I am sorry for offending anyone at the phoenix forum or any show for that matter.
I was drunk and I acknowledge that and I've come to realize that this sort of behavior isn't good for myself or business in general.
I would ask you all to please move on, let's talk about what I'm good at, making traffic convert into sales rather than what you've heard I did or what may or may not have happened.

Stewie and Vanilla I apologize to you specifically this whole issue has been dragged far too long through every message board imagineable. I wish we could reconcile and perhaps do some business as a step towards puting this behind us. I am sorry for the ignorant and immature comments I made to you in your contest thread.

I've decided not to drink any more period. I don't enjoy it and I seem to get too comfortable with being loud (I am plenty loud enough sober if you know me) TO my friends thankyou for being supportive, to my affiliates and the webmaster community in general, I'm around hit me up and we'll make some money together.

Thank you

HarrytheNazi · 04-29-2005, 08:08 AM

The 12 steps to recovery....

Step 8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

StuartD · 04-29-2005, 08:10 AM

wise decision.. very admirable

Bugbee · 04-29-2005, 08:11 AM

Good luck to you and whatever you decide to pursue!!!!!!

Like you always say LOVE LIFE!!!

Tanker · 04-29-2005, 08:13 AM

good job rinaldo

sweetums · 04-29-2005, 08:17 AM

Now there's Rinaldo...

A sincere apology can go such a long way. Admirable.

Tango · 04-29-2005, 08:18 AM

takes balls to get to this point and by the looks of it you lost some things as well - from this point you can start to rebuild and to get further than you where before - good luck

Rinaldo · 04-29-2005, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tango

takes balls to get to this point and by the looks of it you lost some things as well - from this point you can start to rebuild and to get further than you where before - good luck

I couldn't agree more.

THanks Sweetums and Tanker

Adultnet · 04-29-2005, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

wise decision.. very admirable

yep...indeed

brand0n · 04-29-2005, 08:26 AM

ahh the guy who wanted to start shit with me for no reason, call me names and such got fired

ahem, quit.

honestly i for one am glad. and again, consider yourself lucky. im sure ole stewie has been stewing on beating your brains in.

Rinaldo · 04-29-2005, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

ahh the guy who wanted to start shit with me for no reason, call me names and such got fired

ahem, quit.

honestly i for one am glad. and again, consider yourself lucky. im sure ole stewie has been stewing on beating your brains in.

WHY WHY WHY must you ruin a perfectly honest thread?

brand0n · 04-29-2005, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinaldo

WHY WHY WHY must you ruin a perfectly honest thread?

i dont know why, you started with me remember? calling people fuck head and blah blah blah. dont act like you dont know wtf im talking about, icq dont forget you know...

glad plat bucks shook you off like a bad case of fleas.

aff reps now a days seem to forget that they represent a company, and that there actions reflect directly back to that company.

Wizzo · 04-29-2005, 08:33 AM

So when told me that I had "nice package" it was just the booze talking?

Phoenix · 04-29-2005, 08:34 AM

haha rinaldo..you can expect one moron in every thread

so often it turns out to be Brandon though...hmm go figure

Good on you for apologizing and trying to make things right.

Best wishes, im sure i'll be seeing you soon regardless!!!

Yo Adrian · 04-29-2005, 08:35 AM

Great thread.. taking responsibility for your actions and taking steps to rectify them is stand up bro.

brand0n · 04-29-2005, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

haha rinaldo..you can expect one moron in every thread

so often it turns out to be Brandon though...hmm go figure

Good on you for apologizing and trying to make things right.

Best wishes, im sure i'll be seeing you soon regardless!!!

eat cock pussy boy, you dont know wtf happened with me and this clown.

go back to sucking on sales reps tits, the 1 thing you are good at.

Tango · 04-29-2005, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

haha rinaldo..you can expect one moron in every thread

or sometimes 2

Rinaldo · 04-29-2005, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

eat cock pussy boy, you dont know wtf happened with me and this clown.

go back to sucking on sales reps tits, the 1 thing you are good at.

Hey tough guy, go piss on someone elses thread please. And FYI, I wasn't let go. You can ask some people and find that out. Thanks for the nice story though I'll make sure to tell it to my daughter at bedtime and get a nice laugh from her.

brand0n · 04-29-2005, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinaldo

Hey tough guy, go piss on someone elses thread please. And FYI, I wasn't let go. You can ask some people and find that out. Thanks for the nice story though I'll make sure to tell it to my daughter at bedtime and get a nice laugh from her.

riiiight
so lets get this right. you attack people on message boards, then almost assult a couple models at a show. in front of some big players from what ive been told and youve been made employee of the week....

sale that shit to someone else, as im not buying.

PeerPatrick · 04-29-2005, 08:48 AM

nice pology Naldo, don't sweat it too much
though. by next show it will be someone else and you will be clean.

that's why I always say you should only do coke at shows. drinking is for sporting events too boring to watch otherwise(beisbol, wnba), performance driving and recklessly operating water craft.

Wizzo · 04-29-2005, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

eat cock pussy boy, you dont know wtf happened with me and this clown.

go back to sucking on sales reps tits, the 1 thing you are good at.

Regardless of what happened between you, I got to say your the one that's coming of as childish asshat in thread that Rinaldo is being a standup guy and trying right any perceived or actual wrongs...

Rinaldo · 04-29-2005, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeerPatrick

nice pology Naldo, don't sweat it too much
though. by next show it will be someone else and you will be clean.

that's why I always say you should only do coke at shows. drinking is for sporting events too boring to watch otherwise(beisbol, wnba), performance driving and recklessly operating water craft.

Patrick that's an interesting way to look at things lol

FuqALot · 04-29-2005, 09:17 AM

Man.. be easy. Don't let the insecure people get at you.

Rinaldo · 04-29-2005, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuqALot

Man.. be easy. Don't let the insecure people get at you.

THanks

Dwreck · 04-29-2005, 09:22 AM

RINI! Look at you go! Impressive and thanks for hokking me up with some stuff from your apt! It makes a nice addition. That's the right attitude.

HOWEVER you left me high and dry no good bye no sighing off ho hug no nothing. *SULK*

Rinaldo · 04-29-2005, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwreck

RINI! Look at you go! Impressive and thanks for hokking me up with some stuff from your apt! It makes a nice addition. That's the right attitude.

HOWEVER you left me high and dry no good bye no sighing off ho hug no nothing. *SULK*

I didn't plan on staying lover boy, I made the decision once I got down here and saw what I'd been missing.
I owe you a lot more than a hug

Let me know if you got what I needed out of there. And let's do some business !

Odie · 04-29-2005, 09:55 AM

awesome stuff Rini...takes a big person to admit when they're wrong. much love to you and may your vibrant personality take you somewhere bright!!

Rinaldo · 04-29-2005, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Odie

awesome stuff Rini...takes a big person to admit when they're wrong. much love to you and may your vibrant personality take you somewhere bright!!

Thanks Gorgeous.
Hit me up we have money to make together.

SleazyDream · 04-29-2005, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinaldo

Stewie and Vanilla I apologize to you specifically this whole issue has been dragged far too long through every message board imagineable. I wish we could reconcile and perhaps do some business as a step towards puting this behind us. I am sorry for the ignorant and immature comments I made to you in your contest thread.

ok, the apology was decent but the part about doing business after what happened - dude - show some class. At this point that would be for THEM to bring up - not you. That part left a VERY bad taste in my mouth.

tASSy · 04-29-2005, 10:15 AM

*hugs* and pink love rinaldo, best of luck to you in what's meant for you.

Wiggles · 04-29-2005, 10:49 AM

best of luck rinaldo, not an easy thing to do.

Honez · 04-29-2005, 10:50 AM

Let the healing begin.

Peter Romero · 04-29-2005, 10:52 AM

Congrats!

Friend of Bill's? Me too.

Rinaldo · 04-29-2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

ok, the apology was decent but the part about doing business after what happened - dude - show some class. At this point that would be for THEM to bring up - not you. That part left a VERY bad taste in my mouth.

Sleazy did I tell you I have your poster on my wall?

JFPdude · 04-29-2005, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POV Porn guy

Congrats!

Friend of Bill's? Me too.

Bill who ... Bill W ???

Never heard of him ... Btw I'm JFPDude and I'm an .... ahhh nm you get the drift.

KRosh · 04-29-2005, 03:09 PM

You know what ..

This is the first time I have read all this and found out what the hell happened in Phoenix..

Rinaldo.. If that was my wife you did that to, I would have knocked every tooth out of your mouth no questions asked!!! Period.
I just hope you thank your lucky stars that Stewie is a calm reasonable person!

As for apologizing and blaming alcohol, I sure hope you are sincere. It sounds like you are. I don't see anything about you apologizing for your behavior at Myst In phoenix though!

I have to agree with Sleazy regarding the "let's do some business" It is not the best time to make this comment.

Stewie · 04-29-2005, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinaldo

I want to begin by stating that I am sorry for offending anyone at the phoenix forum or any show for that matter.
I was drunk and I acknowledge that and I've come to realize that this sort of behavior isn't good for myself or business in general.
I would ask you all to please move on, let's talk about what I'm good at, making traffic convert into sales rather than what you've heard I did or what may or may not have happened.

Stewie and Vanilla I apologize to you specifically this whole issue has been dragged far too long through every message board imagineable. I wish we could reconcile and perhaps do some business as a step towards puting this behind us. I am sorry for the ignorant and immature comments I made to you in your contest thread.

I've decided not to drink any more period. I don't enjoy it and I seem to get too comfortable with being loud (I am plenty loud enough sober if you know me) TO my friends thankyou for being supportive, to my affiliates and the webmaster community in general, I'm around hit me up and we'll make some money together.

Thank you

Rinaldo,

It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.

Sly · 04-29-2005, 07:12 PM

Did alcohol make you post all of the rude comments and accusations after the "club night" as well, several days later?

SleazyDream · 04-29-2005, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

Rinaldo,

It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.

wow

i didn't know what happened in phoenix but i know stewie and vanilla
- they ARE solid good people that I have spent a lot of time with - and after reading that I can see why Rinaldo got fired.

Jace · 04-29-2005, 07:19 PM

sorry, this is a lame attempt at someone who seriously fucked up to try and save what little respect he has left in this biz....if any at all

i hope you find another job in the industry dude, but god forbid it be with anyone I do business with, but judging from those posting in this thread, it won't be

Jace · 04-29-2005, 07:23 PM

here we go, this sums it all up right here

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass.

Cory W · 04-29-2005, 07:30 PM

Rinaldo,

You just don't get it. You got drunk, happens to the best of us, but you were fully aware of all your actions afterwards. I agree with Stewie.

I know both Vanilla and Stewie very well, and I can confidently say that it was your post-actions that led to your downfall. Say what you like, I hardly say a bad thing about anyone, do a search if you like.

Knowing both of them, they certainly are not ones to lie and you attempted to ruin their business credibility. And now you make a post looking for business?

You don't have my support.

MikeHawk · 04-29-2005, 07:30 PM

Well knowing what i know, and what i read here in this post, plus being sober over 16 years...recovery begins with being honest to yourself...

to thy self be true...

Hope this has a happy ending!

Vanilla DeVille · 04-29-2005, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

Rinaldo,

It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.

Since Stewie is being nice and taking the high road, let me say this:

Last time, I asked Stewie not to go after you in the club... If you ever come near me again and I WILL PERSONALLY kick your pansy ass!! Stewie can have what's left.

P.S. This also goes if you touch any of my girlfriends!

S P A N N O W · 04-29-2005, 07:32 PM

Those of you who know me know that I don't party too hard at shows or events. The drama that results from uninhibited bad behavior is the reason why. I strive to show respect to everyone I deal with both professionally and personally. I wasn't at the Pheonix Forum, nor do I know what happened. But I do know Stewie and Vanilla and consider them to be honest and trustworthy friends. I commend Rinaldo for apologizing but empathize with Stewie. I hope to never find myself in that kind of situation - ever!

Cory W · 04-29-2005, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

sorry, this is a lame attempt at someone who seriously fucked up to try and save what little respect he has left in this biz....if any at all

i hope you find another job in the industry dude, but god forbid it be with anyone I do business with, but judging from those posting in this thread, it won't be

Honestly Jace, if he would have apologized for the initial incident, I promise I would never say a word. But attempting to ruin their credibility is the clincher for me.

I really do not care how many sheep come in and support him for prom king or whatever election components this board sometimes seems made up of.

Danny Dukes · 04-29-2005, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

Rinaldo,

It took guts to come here and say all of that... I appreciate your apology, and do not wish to rehash old drama anymore than you do. However, my issue was never with the rude comment you made to Vanilla in the contest thread, it was just the last straw. This is GFY, and she has had worse things said to her, as we all have - My problem, besides what happened in Phoenix (which we let go and did not publicize), was that you had the balls to come on the board afterwards and start slamming Vanilla. Then, after we called you out for it, you called us liars and denied it all, saying we were making it up for publicity.

You say you are going to quit drinking to curb your behavior. That's great, and I wish you the best with it. Lots of us have had too much to drink before and done something stupid, and I don't think every drunken episode is a "hanging offence". Plus, we are in the adult biz, and Vanilla does dress sexy and flirt with friends at shows. I am not a jealous guy, and I don't hang on or bully people who hang out and flirt along with Vanilla, as long as they are respectful of her limits. However, you weren't just flirting and took it too far... You walked up to Vanilla two separate times, saying nothing and forcibly grabbing her, pulling at her clothes and body, trying to lick and kiss her. Even after she told you to stop both times, you did it again, and this time I saw it. Since all of this happened, we have had numerous girls contact us with similar stories, where you have been both verbally and physically abusive to them and other women. Then after all of this, you call us liars, trying to destroy our credibility.

As far as I am concerned, you have apologized for the drama on the board, but you have yet to even admit that you did anything wrong to us, and others, beyond a few rude words. I am not going to threaten you, or try to mess with you or your life. We've stayed out of almost all of the related threads, and we never posted about it outside of GFY. I'm tired of the whole affair and I am done with the board drama. However, I will never associate or do any business with you, as you continue to demonstrate you are untrustworthy, and only interested in covering your own disrespectful ass. Finally, if you ever lay a finger on my wife or anyone else I know, you and I will have a major problem which will not be ended so easily.

Very honest and well spoken post Stewie, like we discussed before, whats right is whats right, period! And this joker still has not admitted disrespecting you and your lovely wife. IMO he still deserves an ass whippin' by Stewie and several others that he offended. Nonetheless good reply

Stewie · 04-29-2005, 07:42 PM

Vanilla and I are very thankful, overwhelmed really, at all of the love and support we have received through all of this drama. It means a lot to us, especially since we realize that this is a touchy issue, and on an public industry forum. Thank you all!!

J$tyle$ · 04-29-2005, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHawk

recovery begins with being honest to yourself...

to thy self be true...

Rinaldo, bro -

This quote about sums it all up!

Take a step back and be honest with yourself first. Then, and only then - try to make amands to the people you insulted and/or harmed.

... and do it privately. No need to make any further spectacle out of this.

Cory W · 04-29-2005, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie

Vanilla and I are very thankful, overwhelmed really, at all of the love and support we have received through all of this drama. It means a lot to us, especially since we realize that this is a touchy issue, and on an public industry forum. Thank you all!!

You are both very patient people. I know that I got drunk one night and fondled you even after Vanilla asked me to stop. I thought she was going to beat me down.

Last time I drink a bottle of Blush Wine with you....

04-29-2005, 08:05 AM	#1
Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	To Gfy I want to begin by stating that I am sorry for offending anyone at the phoenix forum or any show for that matter. I was drunk and I acknowledge that and I've come to realize that this sort of behavior isn't good for myself or business in general. I would ask you all to please move on, let's talk about what I'm good at, making traffic convert into sales rather than what you've heard I did or what may or may not have happened. Stewie and Vanilla I apologize to you specifically this whole issue has been dragged far too long through every message board imagineable. I wish we could reconcile and perhaps do some business as a step towards puting this behind us. I am sorry for the ignorant and immature comments I made to you in your contest thread. I've decided not to drink any more period. I don't enjoy it and I seem to get too comfortable with being loud (I am plenty loud enough sober if you know me) TO my friends thankyou for being supportive, to my affiliates and the webmaster community in general, I'm around hit me up and we'll make some money together. Thank you

04-29-2005, 08:10 AM	#3
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04-29-2005, 08:11 AM	#4
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04-29-2005, 08:13 AM	#5
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04-29-2005, 08:17 AM	#6
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04-29-2005, 08:08 AM	#2
HarrytheNazi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,164	The 12 steps to recovery.... Step 8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

04-29-2005, 08:18 AM	#7
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04-29-2005, 08:26 AM	#10
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	ahh the guy who wanted to start shit with me for no reason, call me names and such got fired ahem, quit. honestly i for one am glad. and again, consider yourself lucky. im sure ole stewie has been stewing on beating your brains in. __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

04-29-2005, 08:33 AM	#13
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04-29-2005, 08:34 AM	#14
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,462	haha rinaldo..you can expect one moron in every thread so often it turns out to be Brandon though...hmm go figure Good on you for apologizing and trying to make things right. Best wishes, im sure i'll be seeing you soon regardless!!! __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

04-29-2005, 08:35 AM	#15
Yo Adrian Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,326	Great thread.. taking responsibility for your actions and taking steps to rectify them is stand up bro. __________________ Adult SEO Partners - Full service Adult SEO Agency serving some of the biggest names in the industry.

04-29-2005, 08:48 AM	#20
PeerPatrick Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: www Posts: 444	nice pology Naldo, don't sweat it too much though. by next show it will be someone else and you will be clean. that's why I always say you should only do coke at shows. drinking is for sporting events too boring to watch otherwise(beisbol, wnba), performance driving and recklessly operating water craft. __________________ PeerPatrick ICQ#150599121 www.buydrm.com

04-29-2005, 09:17 AM	#23
FuqALot Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Malibu Posts: 3,817	Man.. be easy. Don't let the insecure people get at you.

04-29-2005, 09:22 AM	#25
Dwreck Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 7,362	RINI! Look at you go! Impressive and thanks for hokking me up with some stuff from your apt! It makes a nice addition. That's the right attitude. HOWEVER you left me high and dry no good bye no sighing off ho hug no nothing. SULK __________________ Derek Dwreck Smout Program Manager Icq 165976549 Skype derekthomassmout

04-29-2005, 09:55 AM	#27
Odie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The WATER BABY! Posts: 7,040	awesome stuff Rini...takes a big person to admit when they're wrong. much love to you and may your vibrant personality take you somewhere bright!! __________________ Odie [email protected] Are you Mobile???? MMACanada ICQ # 166208354 See Who I Am At AdultWhosWho.com!

04-29-2005, 10:15 AM	#30
tASSy Spread The Pink! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: pinktown! Posts: 8,229	hugs and pink love rinaldo, best of luck to you in what's meant for you. __________________ tassyPINK ICQ ~ 318097066 *

04-29-2005, 10:49 AM	#31
Wiggles Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 14,423	best of luck rinaldo, not an easy thing to do. __________________ no sig

04-29-2005, 10:50 AM	#32
Honez Confirmed Brat Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 6,636	Let the healing begin. __________________ Your Paysite Partner Hone at YourPaysitePartner dot Com Skype - Stressmonkey

04-29-2005, 10:52 AM	#33
Peter Romero Long time no happy ending Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 10,578	Congrats! Friend of Bill's? Me too. __________________ POVCash [email protected] See them all here: http://www.Petergirls.com

04-29-2005, 03:09 PM	#36
KRosh So Fucking Outlawed Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 5,114	You know what .. This is the first time I have read all this and found out what the hell happened in Phoenix.. Rinaldo.. If that was my wife you did that to, I would have knocked every tooth out of your mouth no questions asked!!! Period. I just hope you thank your lucky stars that Stewie is a calm reasonable person! As for apologizing and blaming alcohol, I sure hope you are sincere. It sounds like you are. I don't see anything about you apologizing for your behavior at Myst In phoenix though! I have to agree with Sleazy regarding the "let's do some business" It is not the best time to make this comment.

04-29-2005, 07:12 PM	#38
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	Did alcohol make you post all of the rude comments and accusations after the "club night" as well, several days later? __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

04-29-2005, 07:19 PM	#40
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	sorry, this is a lame attempt at someone who seriously fucked up to try and save what little respect he has left in this biz....if any at all i hope you find another job in the industry dude, but god forbid it be with anyone I do business with, but judging from those posting in this thread, it won't be

04-29-2005, 07:30 PM	#42
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	Rinaldo, You just don't get it. You got drunk, happens to the best of us, but you were fully aware of all your actions afterwards. I agree with Stewie. I know both Vanilla and Stewie very well, and I can confidently say that it was your post-actions that led to your downfall. Say what you like, I hardly say a bad thing about anyone, do a search if you like. Knowing both of them, they certainly are not ones to lie and you attempted to ruin their business credibility. And now you make a post looking for business? You don't have my support. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

04-29-2005, 07:30 PM	#43
MikeHawk Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In bed with Harley Girl....Not sleepin Posts: 6,683	Well knowing what i know, and what i read here in this post, plus being sober over 16 years...recovery begins with being honest to yourself... to thy self be true... Hope this has a happy ending! __________________ THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

04-29-2005, 07:32 PM	#45
S P A N N O W Everywhere You Wanna Be! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NorCal Posts: 11,941	Those of you who know me know that I don't party too hard at shows or events. The drama that results from uninhibited bad behavior is the reason why. I strive to show respect to everyone I deal with both professionally and personally. I wasn't at the Pheonix Forum, nor do I know what happened. But I do know Stewie and Vanilla and consider them to be honest and trustworthy friends. I commend Rinaldo for apologizing but empathize with Stewie. I hope to never find myself in that kind of situation - ever! __________________ Ambush

04-29-2005, 07:42 PM	#48
Stewie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In bed with Vanilla Posts: 3,670	Vanilla and I are very thankful, overwhelmed really, at all of the love and support we have received through all of this drama. It means a lot to us, especially since we realize that this is a touchy issue, and on an public industry forum. Thank you all!!