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dalila 05-01-2005 07:10 PM

Just wonder what is more dangerous for 13yo girl to make abortion or to give birth to a child?

After Shock Media 05-01-2005 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
once you mature you'll understand that a 13yr old does what it's parents think is best not what some asshole from the aclu thinks is best.

Assuming the law required a minor to have approval, in this instance it does not so even if she had parents they could not prevent her.
Do not blame the ACLU blame the asshole who ignored state law.

Alex 05-01-2005 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy
I wouldn't be calling anyone dumb after saying this :

"Problem - Kids are going to smoke pot anyways
Solution - Buy the pot for them so you know they are getting good stuff and not some shit that might kill them"

You've already voted yourself off rational argument island.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
You only read half my post. I said that thinking in the way i just gave is a stupid act.

But its okay. You made a mistake, but im gald you agree with me.

Alex 05-01-2005 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by uno
As far as causing physical harm and more to the point your quote that it 'will kill them' absofuckinglutely. Can pot harm someone to the point of killing them? no. I still have no clue where you got that I had said that pot isnt a drug. I'll take your apology anytime you want to give it. :thumbsup

Lets meet half way. Different people's bodies react differently to different drugs.
Will taking pot kill someone, probably not. But is it possible? Yes.

uno 05-01-2005 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
Lets meet half way. Different people's bodies react differently to different drugs.
Will taking pot kill someone, probably not. But is it possible? Yes.

No. Find me one case where trying marijuana once caused the death of anyone ever anywhere. Will it kill someone? NO. I don't care how sensitive you are to tetrahydrocannabinoids (THC). It's impossible to OD on it without totally extraordinary and artificial means beyond belief. There is no halfway.

uno 05-01-2005 11:00 PM

The Drug Awareness Warning Network Annual Report, published by the US federal government contains a statistical compilation of all drug deaths which occur in the United States. According to this report, there has never been a death recorded from the use of marijuana by natural causes. Unlike opiates, barbiturates or amphetamines, there seems to be little risk from the use of large amounts of marijuana. When a person smokes too much they feel very tired and lie down. When people swallow large amounts of hashish, occasionally they get sick to their stomach.

http://www.drug-overdose.com/marijuana.htm

The info is also readily verfiable through many many other sources. Have yourself a field day.

Radical Rick 05-01-2005 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi
Hmm since she was a ward of the court i.e. an orphan, foster kid, juvy, ect. Then would the state/court also be responsible for lack of supervision and allowing a 13 year old to engage in sexual acts?

The abortion element is clear cut, just like in the Shiavo case. The courts have over stepped their boundries and should get slapped down immediatly before it becomes to late for this teenager to have an abortion.

This does not matter if you think abortions should or should not be legal, or for what reasons and so on. This is again about a present law that should be followed, end of story. Though we do know it will get very political unless by some off chance the republicans have learned their lesson from last time.

Right on!!! I hate it when the courts overstep their boundries.

kane 05-02-2005 12:44 AM

bottom line:

kids will have sex no matter what they are taught in school or what thier parents say. It's simple biology. The other day on CNN they had a story about this group of hardcore conservative chirstians in a peticular church and thier kids signed a contract with thier parents and the church promising that they would not have sex until marrige. Only about 15% of them actually make it. So here are people that belive in god, listen to thier parents and thier church and in the end biology wins. . . in the end biology always wins. look no further than many afican nations. Here is a place where AIDS is running rampant in epidemic numbers and every day people are dying from starvation, and yet people continue to have sex and make more babies and spread more disease.

The only real solution is, pretty much what Alex has said, You have to teach both options. Not just teach it to them but drill it into thier heads. When I was in 6th grade we had to watch this anti-drug movie ( these days they would never show it because it is way too un-pc) in it the movie showed a guy coming down off herion and he was convulsing, naked, sweaty and shitting all over the place. And I remeber thinking that I never want that to be me. They need to show these kids exactly what STD's can and will do them. They have to show them exactly what having a kid means as well as what having an abortion means. They should teach them that should wait to have sex until they are ready and are with the person they want to be with and if they have sex they should use protection. Make the protection availible.

fuck what the community thinks. Fuck those that think providing condoms will encourage kids to sex. Kids do not need encouragment. In the end biology will win, the best we can do is help the survive it.

bhutocracy 05-02-2005 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
You only read half my post. I said that thinking in the way i just gave is a stupid act.

But its okay. You made a mistake, but im gald you agree with me.

No, you either created a ridiculous strawman, or you were very badly making your point. You were trying to say the idea of permissiveness to counter the problem is stupid. Your examples didn't have to be really ignorant of the reality to make the point they just had to be really permissive.

bhutocracy 05-02-2005 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex
But is it possible? Yes.

NO. There hasn't been one recorded case. Peanut butter and touching your tongue on 9 volt batteries kills infinately (because there are no deaths) more people.

Pot however certainly isn't good for you and shouldn't be encouraged in anything more than occasional doses.

I think this proves you weren't just making a point when you ignorantly said weed could kill, you really thought it could.

bhutocracy 05-02-2005 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane
bottom line:

kids will have sex no matter what they are taught in school or what thier parents say. It's simple biology. The other day on CNN they had a story about this group of hardcore conservative chirstians in a peticular church and thier kids signed a contract with thier parents and the church promising that they would not have sex until marrige. Only about 15% of them actually make it. So here are people that belive in god, listen to thier parents and thier church and in the end biology wins. . . in the end biology always wins. look no further than many afican nations. Here is a place where AIDS is running rampant in epidemic numbers and every day people are dying from starvation, and yet people continue to have sex and make more babies and spread more disease.

The only real solution is, pretty much what Alex has said, You have to teach both options. Not just teach it to them but drill it into thier heads. When I was in 6th grade we had to watch this anti-drug movie ( these days they would never show it because it is way too un-pc) in it the movie showed a guy coming down off herion and he was convulsing, naked, sweaty and shitting all over the place. And I remeber thinking that I never want that to be me. They need to show these kids exactly what STD's can and will do them. They have to show them exactly what having a kid means as well as what having an abortion means. They should teach them that should wait to have sex until they are ready and are with the person they want to be with and if they have sex they should use protection. Make the protection availible.

fuck what the community thinks. Fuck those that think providing condoms will encourage kids to sex. Kids do not need encouragment. In the end biology will win, the best we can do is help the survive it.

Exactly (except not the part about Alex, who watered his position down to include both options - when originally confronted with the argument "But they are going to do it anyway." he said "Why are you idiots living by that mentality." ignoring commonsense and readily observable reality whizzing all around him.)

uno 05-02-2005 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy
Exactly (except not the part about Alex, who watered his position down to include both options - when originally confronted with the argument "But they are going to do it anyway." he said "Why are you idiots living by that mentality." ignoring commonsense and readily observable reality whizzing all around him.)

Logic has no place on GFY. Ask Punkworld. I'd really appreciate it if you stopped using it against people who probably have no clue what you even mean when you say something like "strawman" or even "logical fallacy". You'll save yourself a headache and some frustration.

BradM 05-02-2005 02:09 AM

Guys please everyone missed my post. Just start killing really ignorant people/kids. It is going to save a ton of hasstle.
We can make an agency for this... we could call it the Gestapo.

uno 05-02-2005 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM
Guys please everyone missed my post. Just start killing really ignorant people/kids. It is going to save a ton of hasstle.
We can make an agency for this... we could call it the Gestapo.

I made the suggestion earlier this evening to my sister that the gov't kills the fat people and serves them as soylent green to the military over in Iraq. We'd save tons of money on the healthcare front, We'd be a generally healthier society, we'd save lots of tax dollars on the health care, the soldiers would get nice thick rich meat at the cost of nothing, and I bet people even taste good. My brother-in-law in Iraq disagrees and doubts people would taste good.

BradM 05-02-2005 02:19 AM

uno: People taste great... especially fat ones.

uno 05-02-2005 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM
uno: People taste great... especially fat ones.

That is what I imagine to be true. I would totally try people. Especially if they were in a nice truffle sauce with some good red wine. Free range human...

SinisterStudios 05-02-2005 04:35 AM

Orgainized religion will be the downfall of this planet

God Hates Bush, ok maybe not But Americans and the world hate Bush


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