IBILL owe you MONEY?????????? - GoFuckYourself.com

Juicy D. Links · 04-29-2005, 04:22 PM

iBill President Gary Spaniak told XBiz, claiming that all affiliate monies, or revshares, will be paid directly to the webmasters who maintained affiliate programs, rather than to the affiliates themselves.

?Now the webmaster is responsible for getting money to the affiliates,? he said.

So now you gotta chase he aff prog owners

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=8528

Juicy D. Links · 04-29-2005, 04:23 PM

?It wasn?t done intentionally,? Spaniak said. ?If it was, I?d have a better story.?

this guy needs his knees broken

Manowar · 04-29-2005, 04:23 PM

ugh. the neverending story of ibill. will be interesting to see how this pans out

Juicy D. Links · 04-29-2005, 04:23 PM

?We?ve come a long way in three weeks," Spaniak said. "We want to be part of the biggest comeback in the adult Internet."

LOLLLLL that will be day

MickeyG · 04-29-2005, 04:39 PM

I wonder how many program owners will get paid from ibill and end up keeping the affiliate monies. My guess is quite a bit.

josian · 04-29-2005, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

iBill President Gary Spaniak told XBiz, claiming that all affiliate monies, or revshares, will be paid directly to the webmasters who maintained affiliate programs, rather than to the affiliates themselves.

?Now the webmaster is responsible for getting money to the affiliates,? he said.

So now you gotta chase he aff prog owners

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=8528

wow

crockett · 04-29-2005, 05:49 PM

sounds illegal to me.. The affilates signed up to ibill and not the programs.

Snake Doctor · 04-29-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

sounds illegal to me.. The affilates signed up to ibill and not the programs.

You are wrong sir.
Ibill handled payments as a convenience to the program owners. Your contract is with the program owners, as is Ibill's contract.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 04-29-2005, 05:54 PM

No sir but I got friends that are owed hundreds of thousands.
Even some friends that are Owed by DMR.

Maureenoz · 04-29-2005, 05:55 PM

We haven't seen any money from iBill in a long time, so maybe this is a bullshit attempt to take the heat off iBill and put it on the program owners who don't deserve it.

I'm not saying they won't pay, but they owe so many and profess to have so little.

While iBill was never a big part of our payment processing, we'll probably hear from some of our affiliates that we're keeping their money. Bugs the crap out of me.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 04-29-2005, 06:00 PM

So much is written about sponsor shaving that I imagine some sponsors will simply pocket the cash and tell their affiliates that they never got paid from iBill, and that the affiliates are shit outta luck - while the shady sponsors pocket lots of extra green (no doubt some sponsors who screamed the loudest about iBill screwing them, will now screw their own affiliates given the current turn of events).

If any sponsors intend to pay their affiliates, post the news here so that affiliates and potential affiliates can know whom to trust (and also know which sponsors are using circumstances to scam their affiliates...again).

ADG Webmaster

crockett · 04-29-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

So much is written about sponsor shaving that I imagine some sponsors will simply pocket the cash and tell their affiliates that they never got paid from iBill, and that the affiliates are shit outta luck - while the shady sponsors pocket lots of extra green (no doubt some sponsors who screamed the loudest about iBill screwing them, will now screw their own affiliates given the current turn of events).

If any sponsors intend to pay their affiliates, post the news here so that affiliates and potential affiliates can know whom to trust (and also know which sponsors are using circumstances to scam their affiliates...again).

ADG Webmaster

It's probably the whole point.. Ibill is trying to shift the heat to someone else.. They will probably pay out very little of whats owed and then tell the affilates they already paied the program owners so collect from them.

Some damn shady BS, no way in hell would I ever trust ibill again..

keyboard warrior · 04-29-2005, 06:32 PM

Well IBILL still has not payed the owners.

so they can wait the same as 2007 like the owners have to.

Sosa · 04-29-2005, 10:17 PM

such a big ole waste of shit

venus · 04-29-2005, 10:50 PM

thats why I keep everything in house, if something goes wrong its my fault, no one elses.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

?Now the webmaster is responsible for getting money to

venus · 04-29-2005, 10:52 PM

Actually the program owners are responsible for paying their affiliates - what ever ibill does has no impact on responsibility - the affiliates should be getting paid no matter what - by the program owners.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

It's probably the whole point.. Ibill is trying to shift the heat to someone else.. They will probably pay out very little of whats owed and then tell the affilates they already paied the program owners so collect from them.

Some damn shady BS, no way in hell would I ever trust ibill again..

ry0t · 04-29-2005, 10:54 PM

I never liked Ibill even though I was getting paid by ARS back in the day. I always had a thing for Epoch and CCbill

TDF · 04-29-2005, 10:54 PM

shock and flawed campaign

StuBradley · 04-29-2005, 11:14 PM

First, why has iBill not put up this notice (saying that we need to collect from the program owners) on their RevShare main page?

Second, by iBill putting this money in the hands of the program owners (knowing some will not pay their affiliates) they are giving themselves a bad (okay....worse) name to the affiliates. What affiliate is going to want to promote another iBill site again? As a program owner you might begin seeing some of your money if you signed their agreement, but you are going to have a much harder time finding affiliates willing to sign up to an iBill RevShare program.

SuckOnThis · 04-29-2005, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus

Actually the program owners are responsible for paying their affiliates - what ever ibill does has no impact on responsibility - the affiliates should be getting paid no matter what - by the program owners.

Why's that? We didnt get paid for their signups, we provided access and got nothing. If you think I'm going to pay for Ibills shit you're fucking crazy.

JJ Gold · 04-29-2005, 11:38 PM

Damn I wish Anthony@Pacific was around to crush these crooks

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IBDI.PK

SuckOnThis · 04-29-2005, 11:52 PM

And as far as Ibill paying us the affiliates money, I can't believe its even been brought up by them at this point when they havent paid us anything. That agreement to pay out over two years is a fucking joke, they owe us the money and the only way to get it is to waive all legal rights? Fuck that, if you signed it you're an idiot. Try sending an agreement like that to your mortgage company or any other creditor, they will laugh in your fucking face.

Dagwolf · 04-29-2005, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

So much is written about sponsor shaving that I imagine some sponsors will simply pocket the cash and tell their affiliates that they never got paid from iBill, and that the affiliates are shit outta luck - while the shady sponsors pocket lots of extra green (no doubt some sponsors who screamed the loudest about iBill screwing them, will now screw their own affiliates given the current turn of events).

If any sponsors intend to pay their affiliates, post the news here so that affiliates and potential affiliates can know whom to trust (and also know which sponsors are using circumstances to scam their affiliates...again).

ADG Webmaster

You're assuming that Ibill is being honest. Which makes you umm......
on another subject:
Did you know that the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary?

SGS · 04-30-2005, 01:59 AM

Sounds like another huge mess in the making and more to do with shifting problems than solving them.

Serious-Partner · 04-30-2005, 02:01 AM

sounds like a bullshit!

Paul Markham · 04-30-2005, 02:34 AM

Seems to me that anyone who signs up to IBILL or anyone connected to IBILL needs their fucking head examined.

JJSLIMM · 04-30-2005, 02:49 AM

it's all silly I tell ya.... IBILL = lost revenue

Drake · 04-30-2005, 03:31 AM

The sordid saga continues

MickeyG · 05-03-2005, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Why's that? We didnt get paid for their signups, we provided access and got nothing. If you think I'm going to pay for Ibills shit you're fucking crazy.

What program do you run? I'd like to know so I can stay far away.

Trixie Racer · 05-03-2005, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Why's that? We didnt get paid for their signups, we provided access and got nothing. If you think I'm going to pay for Ibills shit you're fucking crazy.

Legally, you ARE responsible. If you don't pay, your affiliates can sue you -- and win.

04-29-2005, 04:22 PM	#1
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	IBILL owe you MONEY?????????? iBill President Gary Spaniak told XBiz, claiming that all affiliate monies, or revshares, will be paid directly to the webmasters who maintained affiliate programs, rather than to the affiliates themselves. ?Now the webmaster is responsible for getting money to the affiliates,? he said. So now you gotta chase he aff prog owners http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=8528

04-29-2005, 05:49 PM	#7
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	sounds illegal to me.. The affilates signed up to ibill and not the programs. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

04-29-2005, 05:54 PM	#9
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	No sir but I got friends that are owed hundreds of thousands. Even some friends that are Owed by DMR. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

04-29-2005, 05:55 PM	#10
Maureenoz I'm older than you are. Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: very far south Posts: 165	We haven't seen any money from iBill in a long time, so maybe this is a bullshit attempt to take the heat off iBill and put it on the program owners who don't deserve it. I'm not saying they won't pay, but they owe so many and profess to have so little. While iBill was never a big part of our payment processing, we'll probably hear from some of our affiliates that we're keeping their money. Bugs the crap out of me. __________________ Love Ain't FREE! SexyAds.Com

04-29-2005, 06:00 PM	#11
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	So much is written about sponsor shaving that I imagine some sponsors will simply pocket the cash and tell their affiliates that they never got paid from iBill, and that the affiliates are shit outta luck - while the shady sponsors pocket lots of extra green (no doubt some sponsors who screamed the loudest about iBill screwing them, will now screw their own affiliates given the current turn of events). If any sponsors intend to pay their affiliates, post the news here so that affiliates and potential affiliates can know whom to trust (and also know which sponsors are using circumstances to scam their affiliates...again). ADG Webmaster __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

04-29-2005, 04:23 PM	#2
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	?It wasn?t done intentionally,? Spaniak said. ?If it was, I?d have a better story.? this guy needs his knees broken

04-29-2005, 04:23 PM	#3
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	ugh. the neverending story of ibill. will be interesting to see how this pans out

04-29-2005, 04:39 PM	#5
MickeyG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,134	I wonder how many program owners will get paid from ibill and end up keeping the affiliate monies. My guess is quite a bit.

04-29-2005, 06:32 PM	#13
keyboard warrior Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,435	Well IBILL still has not payed the owners. so they can wait the same as 2007 like the owners have to. __________________ - nothing here -

04-29-2005, 10:17 PM	#14
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	such a big ole waste of shit

04-29-2005, 10:54 PM	#17
ry0t So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 4,160	I never liked Ibill even though I was getting paid by ARS back in the day. I always had a thing for Epoch and CCbill

04-29-2005, 10:54 PM	#18
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	shock and flawed campaign __________________ Sig heil

04-29-2005, 11:14 PM	#19
StuBradley Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,625	First, why has iBill not put up this notice (saying that we need to collect from the program owners) on their RevShare main page? Second, by iBill putting this money in the hands of the program owners (knowing some will not pay their affiliates) they are giving themselves a bad (okay....worse) name to the affiliates. What affiliate is going to want to promote another iBill site again? As a program owner you might begin seeing some of your money if you signed their agreement, but you are going to have a much harder time finding affiliates willing to sign up to an iBill RevShare program. __________________ 51-566-514

04-29-2005, 11:38 PM	#21
JJ Gold Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,969	Damn I wish Anthony@Pacific was around to crush these crooks http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IBDI.PK

04-29-2005, 11:52 PM	#22
SuckOnThis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my head Posts: 6,844	And as far as Ibill paying us the affiliates money, I can't believe its even been brought up by them at this point when they havent paid us anything. That agreement to pay out over two years is a fucking joke, they owe us the money and the only way to get it is to waive all legal rights? Fuck that, if you signed it you're an idiot. Try sending an agreement like that to your mortgage company or any other creditor, they will laugh in your fucking face.

04-30-2005, 01:59 AM	#24
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	Sounds like another huge mess in the making and more to do with shifting problems than solving them. __________________ See sig...

04-30-2005, 02:01 AM	#25
Serious-Partner Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NY Posts: 2,585	sounds like a bullshit!

04-30-2005, 02:34 AM	#26
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Seems to me that anyone who signs up to IBILL or anyone connected to IBILL needs their fucking head examined. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

04-30-2005, 02:49 AM	#27
JJSLIMM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,414	it's all silly I tell ya.... IBILL = lost revenue __________________ Email [email protected] \| Skype: jjslimm

04-30-2005, 03:31 AM	#28
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	The sordid saga continues