Is This Fraud? - Need Help (Same IP's For All AOL Leads) - GoFuckYourself.com

hershie · 04-28-2005, 10:20 PM

I am advertising with a Cost Per Acquisition network paying per unique lead, and dozens of the same leads from AOL email addresses have the same IP. Can this be legit even though the people reside in different parts of the USA?

spunkmaster · 04-28-2005, 10:21 PM

AOL went to regional IP's about 18 months ago so don't rule all of them bogus just based on the IP.

kmanrox · 04-28-2005, 10:22 PM

aol uses proxies so you will get a kazillion ppl using the same IP

JFPdude · 04-28-2005, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hershie

I am advertising with a Cost Per Acquisition network paying per unique lead, and dozens of the same leads from AOL email addresses have the same IP. Can this be legit even though the people reside in different parts of the USA?

If they are from aol email yeah they'd have the same IP... Because with the way aol is setup with their email now most of it stays on their server so the ip is probably being pulled from the mail server at AOL.

hydro · 04-28-2005, 10:23 PM

you should expect that, look up the ip to make sure its an aol proxy though

hershie · 04-28-2005, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JFPdude

If they are from aol email yeah they'd have the same IP... Because with the way aol is setup with their email now most of it stays on their server so the ip is probably being pulled from the mail server at AOL.

So if the person clicked from their AOL email message to my html landing page and filled out a form with their contact info. that generates the lead, your response still is valid?

JFPdude · 04-28-2005, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hershie

So if the person clicked from their AOL email message to my html landing page and filled out a form with their contact info. that generates the lead, your response still is valid?

No. However if they are all from the same area the regional ip response also posted here is valid. I believe it was spunkmaster that gave that part of the answer.

hershie · 04-28-2005, 10:38 PM

It's a miserable experience dealing with those performance based mainstream affiliate ad networks. I've spent tens of thousands over the past several months and gotten utter crap leads. I disapprove 95% of the affiliates that request to display my campaign but I still can't weed out the cheaters. Ugh.

hershie · 04-28-2005, 10:43 PM

Thank you spunkmaster, KMan, JFPdude and hydro for your responses. They were very helpful.

JFPdude · 04-28-2005, 10:45 PM

Hershie hit me up on ICQ 44-33-144

pstation · 04-28-2005, 10:46 PM

If you want the real ip address of AOL surfers, then use SSL

Steen2 · 04-28-2005, 10:53 PM

I got the same host and IP address on one member that looks to be fraud (multiple sign ups).

All from the same state though...

hershie · 04-28-2005, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JFPdude

Hershie hit me up on ICQ 44-33-144

Thanks for your time on ICQ. That was a rewarding conversation for me.

04-28-2005, 10:20 PM	#1
hershie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,642	Is This Fraud? - Need Help (Same IP's For All AOL Leads) I am advertising with a Cost Per Acquisition network paying per unique lead, and dozens of the same leads from AOL email addresses have the same IP. Can this be legit even though the people reside in different parts of the USA?

04-28-2005, 10:22 PM	#3
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04-28-2005, 10:53 PM	#12
Steen2 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 7,662	I got the same host and IP address on one member that looks to be fraud (multiple sign ups). All from the same state though... __________________ ICQ: 2262.73945

04-28-2005, 10:21 PM	#2
spunkmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,052	AOL went to regional IP's about 18 months ago so don't rule all of them bogus just based on the IP.

04-28-2005, 10:23 PM	#5
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	you should expect that, look up the ip to make sure its an aol proxy though

04-28-2005, 10:38 PM	#8
hershie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,642	It's a miserable experience dealing with those performance based mainstream affiliate ad networks. I've spent tens of thousands over the past several months and gotten utter crap leads. I disapprove 95% of the affiliates that request to display my campaign but I still can't weed out the cheaters. Ugh.

04-28-2005, 10:43 PM	#9
hershie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,642	Thank you spunkmaster, KMan, JFPdude and hydro for your responses. They were very helpful.

04-28-2005, 10:45 PM	#10
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	Hershie hit me up on ICQ 44-33-144

04-28-2005, 10:46 PM	#11
pstation Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: chicago Posts: 1,135	If you want the real ip address of AOL surfers, then use SSL