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Old 04-28-2005, 04:39 PM   #1
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Attn: All surfers i know you want to make more money!

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Old 04-28-2005, 04:40 PM   #2
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poorly designed site. I was there 3 minutes and couldn't figure out wtf it was all about
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Old 04-28-2005, 04:42 PM   #3
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and it took fooooooooooooorever to load
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Old 04-28-2005, 05:53 PM   #4
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Try this

It doesn't load slow; i don't know what you guy's are talking about.
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Old 04-28-2005, 05:54 PM   #5
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Old 04-28-2005, 05:56 PM   #6
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you should put up a image also, for those who don't have flash
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Your intro is too long. Does it take 10 similar "I'm not making enough money" pics and 10 "I feel more free now" pics to make a point? And they linger too long before the next one shows up. I'm not retarded and I can read "I can't make ends meet." in about 2 seconds. It just as important to KEEP a potential clients attention as it is to get it in the first place.
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Old 04-28-2005, 06:57 PM   #8
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Old 04-28-2005, 06:59 PM   #9
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The first tip-off to ANY pyramid/mlm scheme is when they say...

"this is not MLM" or "this is not a pyramid scheme"

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Old 04-28-2005, 07:10 PM   #11
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and you already announced this.. new threads are for "ONE-TIME PROGRAM ANNOUNCEMENTS" not spammy spam spam
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Old 04-28-2005, 07:13 PM   #12
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Your intro is too long. Does it take 10 similar "I'm not making enough money" pics and 10 "I feel more free now" pics to make a point? And they linger too long before the next one shows up. I'm not retarded and I can read "I can't make ends meet." in about 2 seconds. It just as important to KEEP a potential clients attention as it is to get it in the first place.

It's about 3-4minutes.
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Old 04-28-2005, 07:15 PM   #13
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Horrible looking site, I have no clue wtf its about.
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Old 04-28-2005, 07:28 PM   #14
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The first tip-off to ANY pyramid/mlm scheme is when they say...

"this is not MLM" or "this is not a pyramid scheme"

That is so fucking true.

If you advertise your opportunity for what it is not rather than what it is, you have a problem. Another thing is to advertise something as being "perfectly legal". Perfectly legal as opposed to what? Imperfectly legal?

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Old 04-28-2005, 08:04 PM   #15
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Can you tell us what we will be doing exept recruiting others for a referral percentage?
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:24 PM   #16
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It's about 3-4minutes.
Yes and that's too long moron. Even infomercials get to the point faster. You sell crap anyways. I bet half that "info" you sell is stuff you got off of government websites. $4000 value my ass.
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Old 04-28-2005, 09:16 PM   #18
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ROFL, i bet all you gfyers are always negative. You guy's sit at home all day and post.
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Old 04-28-2005, 09:23 PM   #19
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poorly designed site. I was there 3 minutes and couldn't figure out wtf it was all about

thats the point
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Old 04-28-2005, 09:52 PM   #20
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ROFL, i bet all you gfyers are always negative. You guy's sit at home all day and post.
Yes of course. In that order, every gfyer does

- Get up after 11am.

- Pick their noses, sometimes go elbow deep to retreive dried pieces of mucus.

- Have a breakfast of cheetos and twinkies after taking a morning piss.

- Masturbate to 3 different new galleries featured on the hun.

- Have Doritos for lunch.

- Then it's a Yoo-Hoo and on for a long day of posting.

And when your site doesn't even manage to sell what you got and people here ask what your "opportunity" offers (read Alex's post for example), we're a bunch of negative people who do nothing but sit here and post all day.

I seriously think that you have your head stuck really high somewhere else
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Old 04-28-2005, 09:53 PM   #21
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ROFL, i bet all you gfyers are always negative. You guy's sit at home all day and post.
Can you not ignore me?
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Alex, your question was intelligent. Unfortunately, intelligence has no place in mlm/pyramid like schemes.
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Old 04-28-2005, 10:01 PM   #23
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mlm.. sigh,
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Old 04-28-2005, 10:48 PM   #25
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That's what every negative person says about a business they don't know. They call it a "pyramid," you guy's need to do your homework. I don't do no MLM crap, but anyways you gfyers will never learn.
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Old 04-28-2005, 10:50 PM   #26
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im glad my upcoming project can actually let SURFERS make money.
What is that? Please enlighten me. One thing you gfyers need to learn to do is to take the opportunity and learn something new. You guy's look at a site and don't even know what it is, and make negative posts.
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That's what every negative person says about a business they don't know. They call it a "pyramid," you guy's need to do your homework. I don't do no MLM crap, but anyways you gfyers will never learn.
Yeah! Now you really got people interested with your defensive attitude.

Okay, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I'll say that it's not a "pyramid" and that it's not "MLM crap" as you put it.

Now that you explained what it's not, can you explain what it is?
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What is that? Please enlighten me. One thing you gfyers need to learn to do is to take the opportunity and learn something new. You guy's look at a site and don't even know what it is, and make negative posts.
ur right, i didnt look at the site but i did so afterwords. wasnt impress by the product. reminds me of don lepre and putting tiny ads in newspaper..

And what my project is? a few key ppl know what it is.

btw, when u write 250k per year from home, does that mean you made that money within the last year? if so please tell everyone how easy it was without having to go to that website!
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To tell you the truth; i just started a week ago and made $3k, it keeps going. Mike, if you're interested i can send you more information.
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To tell you the truth; i just started a week ago and made $3k, it keeps going. Mike, if you're interested i can send you more information.

We'll redesign it for you

Glad to hear you're doing so well....now you can start other projects
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MY GOAL FOR NEXT YEAR IS FIFTY THOUSAND A MONTH!
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:40 AM   #33
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Yeah! Now you really got people interested with your defensive attitude.

Okay, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I'll say that it's not a "pyramid" and that it's not "MLM crap" as you put it.

Now that you explained what it's not, can you explain what it is?
Exactly, explain WHAT it is.
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:53 AM   #34
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Simple, give me your email. I will tell you; the product does all the talking it's a web-education tells you lots of useful stuff. I can send you a sample site to the product with a u/p, but it will expire in a few hours. No selling or cold calling!
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Exactly, explain WHAT it is.

The other key tipoff to a pyramid scheme is they dont actually sell anything..

He is selling instructions on how to sell instructions to people who want to buy instructions on how to get instructions on making money..

These things are so laughable its almost funny. The only thing that isnt funny is the fact there are still people around stupid enough to fall for them.


I just dont understand how any sane person could plunk down hard earned money to get "something", with no understanding of what it is they are recieving and no information other than..

No sales
No cold calls
you make a $1000 per sale ( but you dont sell ? ) and you give the first 2 sales away to your "sponsor" , and this is how money is created and how you become rich LOL can you say PYRAMID SCHEME
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Simple, give me your email. I will tell you; the product does all the talking it's a web-education tells you lots of useful stuff. I can send you a sample site to the product with a u/p, but it will expire in a few hours. No selling or cold calling!

Do you understand what the meaning of selling and cold calling are ?

You are selling , you are cold calling.. you didnt make the program your an affiliate just like every other scam artist out there..

heres another cookie cutter copy of your site..

http://www.10kaweek.info
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Why all these surfer sigs am I missing something ?
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I can explain to everyone what its all about..

You buy a copy of the website he is using and try to convince some other schmuck to buy one from you because you got ripped off , but the first 2 sales go to your "sponsor" so you actually have to sell 3 before you even make your money back..

Do i have it about right ???


Its called a pyramid scheme or MLM .


As many have pointed out .. the first indicators are ..

#1 they wont tell you what your selling

#2 they say one of the following

NOT A PYRAMID SCHEME

NOT MLM

PERFECTLY LEGAL

GET PAID INSTANTLY


#3 After reading the whole speil the only thing you understand is how much money your going to make..
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He is selling instructions on how to sell instructions to people who want to buy instructions on how to get instructions on making money..
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To tell you the truth; i just started a week ago and made $3k, it keeps going. Mike, if you're interested i can send you more information.
For fuck's sake, even people in Mary Kay can sum their pitch up in a few words by saying "I sell make up". People in Excel sum it up by saying "I sell long distance services".

If I have to email you so that you can email me back a canned email from the company, then I have to say that you don't know jack shit about it.

So I'll give you one more chance. Fill the blank.

"I am selling __________________"
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yay a crappy flash site that takes 30 seconds to show a picture of your vaporware garbage.. .
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For fuck's sake, even people in Mary Kay can sum their pitch up in a few words by saying "I sell make up". People in Excel sum it up by saying "I sell long distance services".

If I have to email you so that you can email me back a canned email from the company, then I have to say that you don't know jack shit about it.

So I'll give you one more chance. Fill the blank.

"I am selling __________________"

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6) Personality as a Success Asset
Volume 3: Becoming a Power Negotiator
Video Course
Negotiation is a life skill. In Becoming a Power Negotiator training series you will learn how to get anything you want out of life, without fear or guilt. Whether you're negotiating a strategic alliance with a potential business partner or discussing the next vacation spot with your spouse. Your negotiation skills will directly influence the outcome.

Starting immediately, this training is going to be the key tool in your everyday interactions and will spell the difference between mediocrity and the ultimate financial and personal success.
Module (s)
1. Preparing to negotiate
2. Getting ready to negotiate
3. 10 Basic Negotiation Strategies
4. 25 Advanced negotiation techniques
5. Conducting Negotiations
6. Importance of communication and body language
7. Master your EVERYDAY negotiations
8. Closing the deal
Volume 4: Personal Growth
Emerald Mentor Center
Group coaching on hot topics of personal development and personal growth. Live mentoring sessions with renowned experts in the field of success coaching.
Stay tuned for the schedule announcements.
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A question that I'm frequently asked is: What is the product? And so I have listed all of the course material currently included in the Emerald Passport educational package. Please note that Emerald Passport is constantly updating and adding course material and there is NEVER an additional charge to existing members nor has there been an increase in the retail price for new members. Coming Soon: Emerald will soon be adding a complete A-Z real estate training course. I hope this helps you understand what we are marketing and why there is such a demand for this educational package.
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Preface:
Self help has never been easier. The Passport to Prosperity is a comprehensive package that is made out of two educational components: Wealth Passport and Self Passport. Combined, these programs are a dynamite prosperity platform that will give you the tools and leverage you need for total success.
The Passport to Prosperity is an Internet based educational program. The information and course materials are presented using text, audio, video, and live interactive sessions with experts.
A complete guide to success. Everything you need to be financially wise, investment savvy, relationship balanced and harmoniously happy, is just around the corner.
The perfect gift to give to everyone you really care about! This program is about creating financial, personal and spiritual balance, and going through life with peace of mind. Enjoy the journey!
US$ 1295
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Volume 1: Wealth Education
Modules 1-9
1. Wealth strategies of the rich
2. Home sweet home
3. Planning for Retirement
4. Women & Money
5. Insurance
6. Investing
7. The Tax Man
8. Savvy Investors
9. Ongoing Financial Education
Volume 2: Wealth Education
Audio Course
Chapters 1-8
1. Getting started in business
2. Corporations
3. Limited Liability companies
4. Planning your estate
5. Capital and credit
6. Reducing your taxes
7. Retirement and Insurance
8. Financial privacy
Volume 3: Wealth Education
Video Course
Chapters 1-8
1. creating a wealth plan
2. Risk, Knowing what you can handle
3. Getting credit, eliminating debt and using credit cards
4. Insurance and you
5. Your kids education and you
6. Starting your own business
7. Going global-International Financial Planning
8. Investing in the stock market
Volume 4: Wealth Education
Emerald Mentor center
Hot financial topics of the day. Group coaching for money management and investing.
Live mentoring sessions with renowned experts in the field of finance.
Stay tuned for the schedule of events.
Self Passport:
It takes more than money to have a rich and successful life. Great relationships, a sense of personal accomplishment, helping others, being a role-model are all important aspects of living a successful and balanced life.
When you consider that success in most areas of human endeavor is based only 10% on technical skills and about 90% on people skills, the advantage of working on a personal development plan is clear. Thankfully, the major life skills we need for a successful and balanced life are easy to learn.
This course will open your creative mind and help you grab hold of the greatness that lies deep inside you. As a result, you will become infinitely more successful than you are today.
Tangible, quantifiable results will be produced in every aspect of your life: personal, business, spiritual, and material. You are a success in progress; allow us to be your guide.
Volume 1: Personal Growth
Fundamental course on success and personal development
E-Learning Course
1) Success Laws
2) Mastering Leadership
3) Attitude and Self-Esteem
4) The Power of Goals
5) Communication Skills
6) Time Management
7) Sales - The No. 1 Business Skill
8) Kids and Personal Development
Volume 2: Personal Growth
Anatomy of Success
Audio Course
1) Know yourself
2) Know your destination
3) Concentration of Purpose
4) Creative imagination
5) Happiness and Peace of Mind
6) Personality as a Success Asset
Volume 3: Becoming a Power Negotiator
Video Course
Negotiation is a life skill. In Becoming a Power Negotiator training series you will learn how to get anything you want out of life, without fear or guilt. Whether you're negotiating a strategic alliance with a potential business partner or discussing the next vacation spot with your spouse. Your negotiation skills will directly influence the outcome.

Starting immediately, this training is going to be the key tool in your everyday interactions and will spell the difference between mediocrity and the ultimate financial and personal success.
Module (s)
1. Preparing to negotiate
2. Getting ready to negotiate
3. 10 Basic Negotiation Strategies
4. 25 Advanced negotiation techniques
5. Conducting Negotiations
6. Importance of communication and body language
7. Master your EVERYDAY negotiations
8. Closing the deal
Volume 4: Personal Growth
Emerald Mentor Center
Group coaching on hot topics of personal development and personal growth. Live mentoring sessions with renowned experts in the field of success coaching.
Stay tuned for the schedule announcements.

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Chaldoray, seriously, I mean no offense saying this but this whole spiel here is more boring than an Al Gore speech.

If you can't summarize what your offer is in one, and only one simple sentence, I have to conclude that you either don't know what this product/service is or that you just plainly can't sell it.
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You're selling a self-help guide for $1295?
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ALL SURFERS want to know the real way to make money ??

STOP giving it to retards like this moron..

Ill explain what he is selling very simply

he is selling nothing.. he is selling himself.. once you plunk down the bucks you buy the same thing he has , a website to sell other people on selling other people on selling other people a website..

Its called a pyramid scheme , you dont DO anything , you dont SELL anything , you just convince more suckers to signup and spend money on nothing.

Dont take my word for it , do a google search..

Google search for duplicates of his site

notice something familiar ?? every website is the same as his. The same "profitmasters" pyramid scheme.

Sign up with this guy he is great

http://www.homebusinessite.com/home-...port-scam.html

or just search for "profit masters scam"

or "emerald passport pyramid scheme"

or "emerald passport scam"
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ALL SURFERS want to know the real way to make money ??

STOP giving it to retards like this moron..

Ill explain what he is selling very simply

he is selling nothing.. he is selling himself.. once you plunk down the bucks you buy the same thing he has , a website to sell other people on selling other people on selling other people a website..

Its called a pyramid scheme , you dont DO anything , you dont SELL anything , you just convince more suckers to signup and spend money on nothing.

Dont take my word for it , do a google search..

Google search for duplicates of his site

notice something familiar ?? every website is the same as his. The same "profitmasters" pyramid scheme.

Sign up with this guy he is great

http://www.homebusinessite.com/home-...port-scam.html

or just search for "profit masters scam"

or "emerald passport pyramid scheme"

or "emerald passport scam"

Smokey, you're entirely correct and I completely agree with you.

I'm just playing with that guy
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You're selling a self-help guide for $1295?
WG

Yeah espeically when I can most of that info on the net or at the local library for FREE.
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Thanks, i just signed up and already made 4G's....to everyone else this really does work
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