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orco · 01-14-2002, 09:13 AM

I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight on which Premium AVS service I should use out of AC Gold, CA Plat, or Premium Net Pass...

with regards to being able to get sites listed AND converting.
Thanks

spacedog · 01-14-2002, 09:15 AM

Go with Premium Free Net Pass..

Steve & Dave list sites really fast...Usually minutes..
There's always someone available for support 24/7, they offer free banneless hosting.. http://www.freenetpass.com/cgi-bin/w...join.cgi?71738

Use my ref link

Build a small freepass site with single gallery teasing to upsell to your premium site

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playa · 01-14-2002, 10:07 AM

why not try all of them?
make mirrors for all them

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Nedder · 01-14-2002, 10:09 AM

PNP does freehosting?

Nz

BruceM · 01-14-2002, 11:10 AM

I saw He-Man, but where are Battle-Cat, Man-At-Arms, The Sorceress, and that HOT BABE Teilah??? Oh don't forget Skeletor!

As for Premium sites, Adult Check is probably the hardest one to get approved for. I got a Premium site approved without too much difficulty with Cyberage, Netverifier, & PNP (now FNP Premium), but my same site was rejected by Adult Check twice.

Btw, you are not supposed to mirror premium sites, and if they find out they'll de-list you. I just did the one Premium site so far at least, and decided to stick with regular sites...

Bruce

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Ludedude · 01-14-2002, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by BruceM:
Btw, you are not supposed to mirror premium sites, and if they find out they'll de-list you.

Says who? Some AVS systems encourage it.

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BruceM · 01-14-2002, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by Ludedude:
Says who? Some AVS systems encourage it.

Some encourage it, eg. FNP Premium, but others, Adult Check for sure don't. I guess you just gotta read the rules for each system.

Ludedude · 01-14-2002, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by BruceM:
Some encourage it, eg. FNP Premium, but others, Adult Check for sure don't. I guess you just gotta read the rules for each system.

I'd rather stick bamboo shoots under my fingernails than read the asinine rules imposed by some of those systems...almost as bad as some of the egomaniacal TGP's out there. My favorite? NO UPSELLS in the members area. No banners, no text links no nothing. So their FREELOADING avs surfers can suck me dry without a prayer of selling them a thing.

AVS...the TGP's of the future

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spacedog · 01-14-2002, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Nedder:
PNP does freehosting?

Nz

Yep

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sarcasticbastard · 01-14-2002, 11:40 AM

i recommend having at least one premium site in a niche you do well with. upsell to this site from all your regular sites. my recurring with premium sites far exceeds what i do with my sponsor sans one shemale sponsor. build to sell the passes, build to sell on the inside. be prepared to supply your own traffic to any of them regardless. my favs cyberage and sexkey.
yes some rules say no banners in the members area, that is usually for premiums, and not having any banners in there is no big damn deal if you upsell that site from others. it aint like an avs service is gonna hurt your bandwidth with their linklist traffic. cross selling from one avs service to another works also. lots can be done with avs sites. beats the hell out of freesites. rules are far more lenient than alot of freesite linklists and tgp's. freesites suck period
personally i rather sell the passes than anything else whether its from the tour of a site or as an upsell from another site. use exit consoles where allowed as well.
the end for now

kai-tracid · 01-14-2002, 12:02 PM

That last one isn't correct. Fnp doesnt offer free webhosting for fnp webmasters.It's only for pnp webmasters.

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cocoNut · 01-14-2002, 12:16 PM

Kai-Tracid - i didnt know you are in the adult biz! Wow!

dont get sued

spacedog · 01-14-2002, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kai-tracid:
That last one isn't correct. Fnp doesnt offer free webhosting for fnp webmasters.It's only for pnp webmasters.

SORRY, BUT YOU ARE WRONG!!!!

I just had 2 sites on their freehost approved using free net pass
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Ludedude · 01-14-2002, 12:45 PM

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originally post by sarcasticbastard
yes some rules say no banners in the members area, that is usually for premiums, and not having any banners in there is no big damn deal if you upsell that site from others.

Then you're losing a shitload of money. Upsells to paysites from within an AVS are a great benefit of doing an AVS premium (or regular) site. You have a pre-qualified spending surfer with a known good credit card. What better traffic to send to a sponsor or your own paysites? The systems that try to prevent you from selling inside a site are as bad as the TGP's that make you post with their sponsor banner on your gallery. Neither one of them get my business.

For the record, PNP is one of the best out there as their rules actually allow you to try to earn some coin.

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sarcasticbastard · 01-14-2002, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Ludedude:
Then you're losing a shitload of money. Upsells to paysites from within an AVS are a great benefit of doing an AVS premium (or regular) site. You have a pre-qualified spending surfer with a known good credit card. What better traffic to send to a sponsor or your own paysites? The systems that try to prevent you from selling inside a site are as bad as the TGP's that make you post with their sponsor banner on your gallery. Neither one of them get my business.

For the record, PNP is one of the best out there as their rules actually allow you to try to earn some coin.

i am certainly aware of all those things. the no banners on the inside only applies to premium sites at some avs services which are meant to be upsold as your own paysite more or less as far as i know. some don't allow cross selling, to me that sucks bad. i really don't care much about the linklist traffic. my goal is to sell the passes. the money made off the members area is extra.
i don't care for fnp but thats just me.
ltrz

Snake Doctor · 01-14-2002, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ludedude:
Then you're losing a shitload of money. Upsells to paysites from within an AVS are a great benefit of doing an AVS premium (or regular) site. You have a pre-qualified spending surfer with a known good credit card. What better traffic to send to a sponsor or your own paysites? The systems that try to prevent you from selling inside a site are as bad as the TGP's that make you post with their sponsor banner on your gallery. Neither one of them get my business.

For the record, PNP is one of the best out there as their rules actually allow you to try to earn some coin.

I think you're missing the point Martin was trying to make.
Having a premium AVS site is very similar to having your own paysite. You sell the memberships, they recur monthly, and you get your % of the $$.
If what you're saying is true why don't we put banners inside of our paysites to sell other paysites? After all they paid for ours why don't we get them to sign up for another one?
If they get hammered with ads inside the premium AVS they'll think "WTF am I paying a monthly fee for? so I can see a bunch of TGP galleries?"
By all means upsell to premium or paysites on your regular AVS sites, but on premiums you're better off advertising penis pills or personal ads or something like that since they're already paying a monthly fee to look at porn. You want to keep those puppies recurring as long as possible.

And the avs systems that limit your advertising are nowhere near in the same categories as TGP's. The surfer DID PAY for the right to surf that link list.

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Snake Doctor · 01-14-2002, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ludedude:
I'd rather stick bamboo shoots under my fingernails than read the asinine rules imposed by some of those systems...almost as bad as some of the egomaniacal TGP's out there. My favorite? NO UPSELLS in the members area. No banners, no text links no nothing. So their FREELOADING avs surfers can suck me dry without a prayer of selling them a thing.

AVS...the TGP's of the future

Maybe you should so some more homework there Ludedude. I'm pretty sure the words AVS surfer and Freeloader don't belong in the same sentence.
When TGP's start requiring a valid CC to surf their listings then you can compare the 2, otherwise its night and day.

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Martin · 01-14-2002, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2:
I think you're missing the point Martin was trying to make.
Having a premium AVS site is very similar to having your own paysite. You sell the memberships, they recur monthly, and you get your % of the $$.
If what you're saying is true why don't we put banners inside of our paysites to sell other paysites? After all they paid for ours why don't we get them to sign up for another one?
If they get hammered with ads inside the premium AVS they'll think "WTF am I paying a monthly fee for? so I can see a bunch of TGP galleries?"
By all means upsell to premium or paysites on your regular AVS sites, but on premiums you're better off advertising penis pills or personal ads or something like that since they're already paying a monthly fee to look at porn. You want to keep those puppies recurring as long as possible.

And the avs systems that limit your advertising are nowhere near in the same categories as TGP's. The surfer DID PAY for the right to surf that link list.

Hey Lenny what do I have to do with this..lmao...

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Theo · 01-14-2002, 04:16 PM

sarcastic bastards!!!

Martin · 01-14-2002, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel:
sarcastic bastards!!!

Don't say it type it in!!!!

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orco · 01-14-2002, 08:44 PM

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Snake Doctor · 01-14-2002, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin:
Hey Lenny what do I have to do with this..lmao...

Are you going to turn into boneprone with all of your aliases now?
Don't tell me we have to deal with 2 webmasters referring to themselves as the "sarcastic bastard" now

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01-14-2002, 09:13 AM	#1
orco Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 64	AVS Premium sites I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight on which Premium AVS service I should use out of AC Gold, CA Plat, or Premium Net Pass... with regards to being able to get sites listed AND converting. Thanks

01-14-2002, 09:15 AM	#2
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Go with Premium Free Net Pass.. Steve & Dave list sites really fast...Usually minutes.. There's always someone available for support 24/7, they offer free banneless hosting.. http://www.freenetpass.com/cgi-bin/w...join.cgi?71738 Use my ref link Build a small freepass site with single gallery teasing to upsell to your premium site [This message has been edited by spacedog (edited 01-14-2002).]

01-14-2002, 10:07 AM	#3
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	why not try all of them? make mirrors for all them ------------------ www.NoBSdialer.com Sign up for Click Cash and Get a $50 free bonus Nice Clean Galleries

01-14-2002, 10:09 AM	#4
Nedder Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 555	PNP does freehosting? Nz

01-14-2002, 11:10 AM	#5
BruceM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,084	I saw He-Man, but where are Battle-Cat, Man-At-Arms, The Sorceress, and that HOT BABE Teilah??? Oh don't forget Skeletor! As for Premium sites, Adult Check is probably the hardest one to get approved for. I got a Premium site approved without too much difficulty with Cyberage, Netverifier, & PNP (now FNP Premium), but my same site was rejected by Adult Check twice. Btw, you are not supposed to mirror premium sites, and if they find out they'll de-list you. I just did the one Premium site so far at least, and decided to stick with regular sites... Bruce ------------------ ERASER CASH - Make $45 per sale, 1 in 200 chance to WIN A CAR! Albion Medical - Awesome conversions selling penis enlargement pills!

01-14-2002, 11:40 AM	#10
sarcasticbastard Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: at the #1 newbie board Posts: 104	i recommend having at least one premium site in a niche you do well with. upsell to this site from all your regular sites. my recurring with premium sites far exceeds what i do with my sponsor sans one shemale sponsor. build to sell the passes, build to sell on the inside. be prepared to supply your own traffic to any of them regardless. my favs cyberage and sexkey. yes some rules say no banners in the members area, that is usually for premiums, and not having any banners in there is no big damn deal if you upsell that site from others. it aint like an avs service is gonna hurt your bandwidth with their linklist traffic. cross selling from one avs service to another works also. lots can be done with avs sites. beats the hell out of freesites. rules are far more lenient than alot of freesite linklists and tgp's. freesites suck period personally i rather sell the passes than anything else whether its from the tour of a site or as an upsell from another site. use exit consoles where allowed as well. the end for now

01-14-2002, 12:02 PM	#11
kai-tracid Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bali, Indonesia Posts: 331	That last one isn't correct. Fnp doesnt offer free webhosting for fnp webmasters.It's only for pnp webmasters. ------------------ ? [email protected] ?uin:138641787

01-14-2002, 12:16 PM	#12
cocoNut Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: na Posts: 6	Kai-Tracid - i didnt know you are in the adult biz! Wow! dont get sued

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01-14-2002, 08:44 PM	#21
orco Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 64	All of Eternia thanks you!