MFM - How Did I Go From 20+ Sales per Day to 1 Per Day? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

J B · 04-26-2005, 09:42 PM

cocky... I guess you did this but just to make sure... did you compare the numbers in StatsRemote to the numbers in your MFM stats? I ask because we got a few error reports from people that have issues with sponsors that use Executive Stats. They work fine in StatsRemote for some people while they don't seem to work properly for others. It seems like some of the programs that use Executive Stats have different stats formats for different account. I don't know if this is the case with MFM though but we already had to code a custom routine for another sponsor.

FreeFastHost · 04-26-2005, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

33% drop ..?

I changed things on my end that caused that.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-26-2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeFastHost

I changed things on my end that caused that.

ok just checkin

swedguy · 04-26-2005, 09:54 PM

Nice stats for MFM

rhizome · 04-26-2005, 09:54 PM

I just wish MFM would bring back the free trial on credit cards. I went from around 1:150 to 1:1000

makefuckingmoney · 04-26-2005, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rhizome

I just wish MFM would bring back the free trial on credit cards. I went from around 1:150 to 1:1000

we have them still but you must maintain certain cb and retention numbers or you get switched over.

WiredGuy · 04-26-2005, 10:39 PM

That's a good point J B brought up. How do your stats look within MFM directly, and not stats remote?
WG

J$tyle$ · 04-26-2005, 10:39 PM

Nice #'s Chris - bet that upcoming promo will be HUGE for ya!

DamageX · 04-26-2005, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

That's a good point J B brought up. How do your stats look within MFM directly, and not stats remote?
WG

Didn't you read the thread? He got locked out when he asked questions. So much for transparency.

VeriSexy · 04-26-2005, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney

your account is disabled..post all you want from stats remote..but I posted from 4-15..its what i pulled up..you can post them all like crazy..even 1 in 342 isnt bad..its not 1 in 45..but its not bad

honestly i dont know where you get your traffic from or how..so i cant tell you why your traffic fluctuates..

I wish you luck in the next program!

Ouch...............

spunkmaster · 04-26-2005, 11:35 PM

If my sales dropped from 20 to 1 that program would be dropped in 30 seconds ?
It happens and for some fucked up reason some programs go to shit with your traffic?

Babagirls · 04-26-2005, 11:37 PM

wow, this thread was interesting to read...an im still kinda lost...

cocky had a question, emailed MFM, got no response, then got hit up on ICQ, then got his account pulled for starting this thread?

fuck it, its almost 2am, im goin to bed LOL

psyko514 · 04-26-2005, 11:52 PM

Cocky, no offense, but you're an idiot. Did you even bother to analyze all your statistics?

You're making that much money and you're still looking at ratios? Why? Look at the amount of money you're making per click. That's what's important. You made 38 cents a click last month. And for this week, you're at 32 cents a click.

Regardless of what the ratios show, that's not a huge drop. If you went from 38 cents a click to 15 cents a click, then that would be cause for concern. But a minor drop like that isn't a reason to publicly attack a company's integrity (especially when you're comparing a week's worth of traffic to a month's worth of traffic, and especially when it's been a slow week at that).

mkx · 04-26-2005, 11:54 PM

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makefuckingmoney · 04-27-2005, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls

wow, this thread was interesting to read...an im still kinda lost...

cocky had a question, emailed MFM, got no response, then got hit up on ICQ, then got his account pulled for starting this thread?

fuck it, its almost 2am, im goin to bed LOL

no he got kicked for being an ass, telling me to fuck off on icq, threatening me on icq..and questioning the integrity of the program and myself. He will get his last check..and thats it.. I will not post his icqs because i find that unprofessional..although if he wants me to i will gladly.

this is a business not a hobby..and i take my business relationships very seriously.

fyi, there was no email, it was an unanswered icq about 24 hours prior to this thread..one would think for being his best sponsor for the last 2 years would be worth more than that to him.

Tat2Jr · 04-27-2005, 01:43 AM

Can someone pass the popcorn?

andrej_NDC · 04-27-2005, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cocky

nice try...so you lock me out of the program and think I can't get to my stats...except I use statsremote which shows 1:342 UNIQUE FOR 4/18 TO TODAY. All I wanted was a return email or ICQ.
http://www.porn-rankings.com/mfm.jpg

$109 per sale?

andrej_NDC · 04-27-2005, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney

no he got kicked for being an ass, telling me to fuck off on icq, threatening me on icq..and questioning the integrity of the program and myself. He will get his last check..and thats it.. I will not post his icqs because i find that unprofessional..although if he wants me to i will gladly.

this is a business not a hobby..and i take my business relationships very seriously.

fyi, there was no email, it was an unanswered icq about 24 hours prior to this thread..one would think for being his best sponsor for the last 2 years would be worth more than that to him.

he was a good affiliate for 2 years and you stop his account for beeing rude on ICQ once? Thats what I call professional.

psyko514 · 04-27-2005, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

he was a good affiliate for 2 years and you stop his account for beeing rude on ICQ once? Thats what I call professional.

he wasn't rude on icq. he started this post attacking mfm and calling the company's integrity into question.

adonthenet · 04-27-2005, 03:48 AM

I know MFM is a good guy!

slapass · 04-27-2005, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cocky

http://www.porn-rankings.com/mfm.jpg

Is that a photoshop job? He is making $100/sale. MakingFucking Money is going to get more traffic from me if that is the case.

imafuckingaussie · 04-27-2005, 04:20 AM

Shit happens, porn sales are a fucking roller coaster. Nothing is consistent every day and every week.

psyko514 · 04-27-2005, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Is that a photoshop job? He is making $100/sale. MakingFucking Money is going to get more traffic from me if that is the case.

That is kinda strange. His stats from March show an average of $26.47 a sale.

thaifan99 · 04-27-2005, 04:28 AM

This is sad.. on many levels.

slapass · 04-27-2005, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by psyko514

That is kinda strange. His stats from March show an average of $26.47 a sale.

He did volume is that a $500 bonus? Makingfuckingmoney help us out on that will you.

Peaches · 04-27-2005, 06:13 AM

LOL, I love that it's OK for affiliates to come and trash talk sponsors, but when the sponsors say "Fine, you do so poorly with us, let's end this relationship", the sponsor is the bad guy.

MFM is about as stand up as they come. Questioning his integrity or that of his program is a joke.

12clicks · 04-27-2005, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

he was a good affiliate for 2 years and you stop his account for beeing rude on ICQ once? Thats what I call professional.

son, you wouldn't know professional if it was sucking your dick. Now run along you worthless c u n t.
Anyone who thinks they can question the integrity of the company sending them money month after month on this flimsy evidence should not just be cancelled, he should forfiet any money he's owed.

Richdude · 04-27-2005, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by eddie-executive

makefuckingmoneyelsewhere

12clicks · 04-27-2005, 06:25 AM

what I really want to know is who is this shit stain "cocky" who thinks he can spam my icq with this bullshit thread?

I'll tell you who he is, he's some asshole who will discover that the problem was on his end and instead of being a man about it, will slink away with this thread left up for other idiots to point to in the future showing the mfm's business is questionable.

You're fucking lucky this isn't the old days, son cause you wouldn't have been able to find a program to take your business after an asshole stunt like this.

fucking kids.

bigdog · 04-27-2005, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Adwords has been really crap for me the last 4 days. Almost all campaigns are negative ROI, so it might not just be you.

WG

sorry my google hitbot is out of control

sickkittens · 04-27-2005, 07:39 AM

This reminds me of 2001.

Scott McD · 04-27-2005, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cocky

The last time I asked you about dropping sales my sales spiked for 2 days then dropped again. WTF.

I always find this bizarre with some sponsors. If you tell them that sales are really bad, then you normally find they go right back up for the next few days, then down again.

So what are they doing that adds the extra few sales on ?? Dodgy dodgy...

HAPPYPEEKERS · 04-27-2005, 08:18 AM

MFM is a great guy with an Amazing program. He is a stand up guy. If you attacked my intergrity like you have his.. I would have dropped your ass too.

Thee Johnclave · 04-27-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Didn't you read the thread? He got locked out when he asked questions. So much for transparency.

And heaven forbid he'd have double checked MFM's stats directly before flaming him.

Steve · 04-27-2005, 12:01 PM

Actually, call me a cynic - but I LIKED MFM's reply. A scamming fuck would do anything to keep shit off the board - but he told this dude to blow it out his ass and termed his account.

Guess what? We're going to contact him on ICQ and add his new galleries into the rotation. He seems like a straight shooter with nothing to hide, who doesn't take any shit. I like that.

pornstar2pac · 04-27-2005, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

what I really want to know is who is this shit stain "cocky" who thinks he can spam my icq with this bullshit thread?

I'll tell you who he is, he's some asshole who will discover that the problem was on his end and instead of being a man about it, will slink away with this thread left up for other idiots to point to in the future showing the mfm's business is questionable.

You're fucking lucky this isn't the old days, son cause you wouldn't have been able to find a program to take your business after an asshole stunt like this.

fucking kids.

this is why I come to GFY!

thanks 12clicks for another great post!

Lee · 04-27-2005, 02:06 PM

The old adage of all publicity being good publicity rings true for me here. I must check out MFM.

Basic_man · 04-27-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeFastHost

My MFM stats are all good this month and last...

Holly FUCK ! Those are some nice stats !

will76 · 04-27-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male

ok

All this guy is looking for is a bit of research as to why his numbers dropped (I am assuming what he is saying in this thread is true).

If a problem can't be found at least give the guy the "everything is fine on our end" response.

That's the problem. EVERYTIME someone's sales drop they go crying to the company and telling them, "there must be a problem on your end, my sales are down." Ask it any way you like, 9 out of 10 times the person is going to come across as accusing the company of cheating them or that they are having problems, etc.. If every company had to handle all of these emails they would have to lower their pay rates to pay for that 50 person staff.

Google was fucking people with adwords in the past. What if someone kept hitting your links from different ips, what if you screwed somethign up on your end, what if your hosting is slow today. What if you just having a bad day, not catchiing the people that signup... it happens from time to time.

Do you complain to them when you have a good day. If you average 10 sales a day, some days you will get 2 and you go crying to them. On the days you get 18 sales do you contact them and tell them there most be a problem ? Do you offer to give back those extra sales, there must have been an error your stats are not allowed to fluxuate.

However, how he replied is not called for as well. I can understand his frustraition and agree with his thinking, but not his response. There is a polite/professional way to say " sorry there is nothing wrong on our end, I don't know what else to tell you' and then there is the " get the fuck, dont let the door hit you in the ass" way that only hurts the reputation of your company.

will76 · 04-27-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by psyko514

Cocky, no offense, but you're an idiot. Did you even bother to analyze all your statistics?

You're making that much money and you're still looking at ratios? Why? Look at the amount of money you're making per click. That's what's important. You made 38 cents a click last month. And for this week, you're at 32 cents a click.

Regardless of what the ratios show, that's not a huge drop. If you went from 38 cents a click to 15 cents a click, then that would be cause for concern. But a minor drop like that isn't a reason to publicly attack a company's integrity (especially when you're comparing a week's worth of traffic to a month's worth of traffic, and especially when it's been a slow week at that).

excellant points

Theo · 04-27-2005, 02:19 PM

this thread is more like an advertisement for MFM program than a negative exposure.

Poppy · 04-27-2005, 02:25 PM

I love Chris.

BradShaw · 04-27-2005, 02:41 PM

I am the real owner of MFM, please let me know what I can do for you.

Cory W · 04-27-2005, 02:51 PM

MFM owes me a bag of burritos.

WiredGuy · 04-27-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

That's the problem. EVERYTIME someone's sales drop they go crying to the company and telling them, "there must be a problem on your end, my sales are down." Ask it any way you like, 9 out of 10 times the person is going to come across as accusing the company of cheating them or that they are having problems, etc.. If every company had to handle all of these emails they would have to lower their pay rates to pay for that 50 person staff.

I'm guilty of this. When my sales are low, I do email my sponsors to check if there's something on their end which is the case. And about half the times there actually is a back end problem. Whether it be sales are not tracking, a processor is loading up slowly or even a technical error on the join page (Furious Male knows exactly what I'm referring to here, hehe), a lot of times it is a combination of many things that affect sales.

PS: I emailed Stacy a few minutes ago Will. Hoping she'll reply to me

WG

davethetruth · 04-27-2005, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cocky

nice attempt at a lie...all I wanted was a reply to why I went from 20 sales/day to 1-2. What webmaster wouldn't be concerned? Please post any reply you think you sent to this ICQ:

Can you have someone take a look at account XXX again? Sending you paid google traffic is costing me money. Last time I asked you to look at it my stats jumped up the very same day for about 2 days and then fell again. As you'll see, I went from 20-30 sales a day to 1-2 sales almost overnight with no changes on my end. I think MFM has some awesome sites and I started to also send you all my gallery traffic but I can't continue to lose money. Just let me know what you're seeing on your end so we can make this work.

All i got from you tonight is:

cocky (09:35 PM) :
this all could have been avoided if you just answered the emails of people that made you money.
Webmaster (09:35 PM) :
emails?
Webmaster (09:36 PM) :
is this you ruining me?
haha

Are you using the content match with google? If you are getting that traffic from adwords, they could've added a bad affiliate to their adsense program and that could be part of the problem. Adwords has been sucking balls for me lately.

04-26-2005, 09:42 PM	#51
J B Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: StatsRemote.com Posts: 1,804	cocky... I guess you did this but just to make sure... did you compare the numbers in StatsRemote to the numbers in your MFM stats? I ask because we got a few error reports from people that have issues with sponsors that use Executive Stats. They work fine in StatsRemote for some people while they don't seem to work properly for others. It seems like some of the programs that use Executive Stats have different stats formats for different account. I don't know if this is the case with MFM though but we already had to code a custom routine for another sponsor. __________________ A HUGE TIME SAVER FOR LESS THAN $1 PER DAY! Contact: support A\|T statsremote D\|O\|T com

04-26-2005, 10:39 PM	#57
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04-26-2005, 11:37 PM	#62
Babagirls Text Writer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 18,812	wow, this thread was interesting to read...an im still kinda lost... cocky had a question, emailed MFM, got no response, then got hit up on ICQ, then got his account pulled for starting this thread? fuck it, its almost 2am, im goin to bed LOL __________________ Need a Text Writer? Blogs\|Reviews\|Descriptions\|Paysites\|TGP's\|Stories ICQ: 397892500

04-26-2005, 11:52 PM	#63
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	Cocky, no offense, but you're an idiot. Did you even bother to analyze all your statistics? You're making that much money and you're still looking at ratios? Why? Look at the amount of money you're making per click. That's what's important. You made 38 cents a click last month. And for this week, you're at 32 cents a click. Regardless of what the ratios show, that's not a huge drop. If you went from 38 cents a click to 15 cents a click, then that would be cause for concern. But a minor drop like that isn't a reason to publicly attack a company's integrity (especially when you're comparing a week's worth of traffic to a month's worth of traffic, and especially when it's been a slow week at that). __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

04-26-2005, 11:54 PM	#64
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04-26-2005, 09:54 PM	#54
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	Nice stats for MFM

04-26-2005, 09:54 PM	#55
rhizome Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 788	I just wish MFM would bring back the free trial on credit cards. I went from around 1:150 to 1:1000

04-26-2005, 10:39 PM	#58
J$tyle$ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 11,500	Nice #'s Chris - bet that upcoming promo will be HUGE for ya!

04-26-2005, 11:35 PM	#61
spunkmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,052	If my sales dropped from 20 to 1 that program would be dropped in 30 seconds ? It happens and for some fucked up reason some programs go to shit with your traffic?

04-27-2005, 01:43 AM	#66
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04-27-2005, 03:48 AM	#70
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04-27-2005, 04:20 AM	#72
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04-27-2005, 04:28 AM	#74
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04-27-2005, 06:13 AM	#76
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	LOL, I love that it's OK for affiliates to come and trash talk sponsors, but when the sponsors say "Fine, you do so poorly with us, let's end this relationship", the sponsor is the bad guy. MFM is about as stand up as they come. Questioning his integrity or that of his program is a joke.

04-27-2005, 06:25 AM	#79
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,790	what I really want to know is who is this shit stain "cocky" who thinks he can spam my icq with this bullshit thread? I'll tell you who he is, he's some asshole who will discover that the problem was on his end and instead of being a man about it, will slink away with this thread left up for other idiots to point to in the future showing the mfm's business is questionable. You're fucking lucky this isn't the old days, son cause you wouldn't have been able to find a program to take your business after an asshole stunt like this. fucking kids. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed. Last edited by 12clicks; 04-27-2005 at 06:27 AM..

04-27-2005, 07:39 AM	#81
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04-27-2005, 08:18 AM	#83
HAPPYPEEKERS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Margaritaville Posts: 7,562	MFM is a great guy with an Amazing program. He is a stand up guy. If you attacked my intergrity like you have his.. I would have dropped your ass too. __________________ Please Read All Of My Posts In A Sarcastic Tone So You Get The Full Effect!! HappyPeekers - April

04-27-2005, 12:01 PM	#85
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	Actually, call me a cynic - but I LIKED MFM's reply. A scamming fuck would do anything to keep shit off the board - but he told this dude to blow it out his ass and termed his account. Guess what? We're going to contact him on ICQ and add his new galleries into the rotation. He seems like a straight shooter with nothing to hide, who doesn't take any shit. I like that.

04-27-2005, 02:06 PM	#87
Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kernow Posts: 2,977	The old adage of all publicity being good publicity rings true for me here. I must check out MFM.

04-27-2005, 02:19 PM	#91
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	this thread is more like an advertisement for MFM program than a negative exposure.

04-27-2005, 02:25 PM	#92
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04-27-2005, 02:41 PM	#93
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04-27-2005, 02:51 PM	#94
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