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Doctor Dre · 04-27-2005, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

i agree.... i think you should pay the russian guy and then change your conditions... what it looks like.. and correct me if i'm wrong.... you guys made this deal.. and after this guy made this much money, you guys don't want to pay.... russian guy is not at fault for your offer....

Dude ... omfg ... PPC sponsors will terminate your account for much much much less . There is also a part in their TOS that say they can do pretty much wahtever they want . So tehy are doign nothing illegal now . They are only beeing totally unprofetional and bullshitting all arround . They are doign the right decision by not paying him (I'm sure even ARS or Lens in that situation wouldn't pay him)

Trax · 04-27-2005, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Dude ... omfg ... PPC sponsors will terminate your account for much much much less . There is also a part in their TOS that say they can do pretty much wahtever they want . So tehy are doign nothing illegal now . They are only beeing totally unprofetional and bullshitting all arround . They are doign the right decision by not paying him (I'm sure even ARS or Lens in that situation wouldn't pay him)

nobody I know would either
I also agree that to the bullshitting around comment.
well said dre

yys · 04-27-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Ok so you mean if I send 1 signup this week (1:1 ratio) , I'l get a buck a click next week ? If I sent 500k uniques, you will send me 500k $ ?

I highly doubt that ...

No shit. I'd like to know if I can send them 15-20 sales one week and then dump all the traffic I can on them for the $1 a click. I highly doubt they'd pay out. They should really rework their terms with a mandatory ratio to stay at the $1 ppc level; all other ppc programs have this for a reason.

Rui · 04-27-2005, 10:03 AM

He would be stupid or under influence of something pretty strong if he thought such "scheme" would work....

Doctor Dre · 04-27-2005, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui

He would be stupid or under influence of something pretty strong if he thought such "scheme" would work....

No dUUUUUUUH

fuzebox · 04-27-2005, 11:10 AM

I can't believe there are still people rooting for this guy.

Lex, were you seriously expecting a $35k+ wire next week?

Doctor Dre · 04-27-2005, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

I can't believe there are still people rooting for this guy.

Lex, were you seriously expecting a $35k+ wire next week?

I'm not 'rooting' for this guy ... I'm just saying, when a sponsor make a major mistake like that, and blame everything but themselves, there is a serious problem ... if fuckups happen one day, will it be everybody's problems but theirs ?

I'm NOT saying they should pay the guy . Actually they should move him on a PPS sheme or something like that .

I'm saying they should admit their mistake and move on, and change the rules to fix the problem instead of telling lies after lies trying to discredit the guy that sent the traffic and played the game .

will76 · 04-27-2005, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Trax

IwantU simply created a stupid payout scale... I mean... how stupid do you have to be to not see the potentiality of fraud over there...
thats newbee'ish to say the least
more than 5 ways to abuse this system further come to my mind without them knowing i'd be abusing it
just because the traffic would be productive.
why have such a model anyways??

I agree the whole ppc system is flawed. What if he went and PAID $.50 a click one week and his average is .25 per click with you guys, then the next week he sends 35K hits from trash traffic. so you owe him $8,750. He doesn't get any chargebacks from week before so you cant scream fraud. Would you have paid him then???? just curious don't see how any one uses ppc method.

adultvisitors · 04-27-2005, 12:36 PM

Top earner made $10k only so far this month???

Dalai lama · 04-27-2005, 12:39 PM

he's kicked already

SAM SIYC · 04-27-2005, 01:01 PM

wow....I can feel the LOVE on this thread

I honestly do not wish this to happen to any other program!

After talking with Lex on icq now. I think we agree that there was some confusion with these stats.
The problem is that when, as an affiliate program, you decide to show your top 100 LIVE, because you have nothing to hide, it can backfire on you if there has been an error somewhere.

Untill the error is corrected......what happens: you try to survive a gfy storm

SAM SIYC · 04-27-2005, 01:21 PM

and btw, after talking to Lex, I honestly beleive he had NO intentions of frauding or spamming the program.....
things just turned out real bad....and it escalated on the boards!

Rui · 04-27-2005, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

No dUUUUUUUH

Somebody really needs their brain checked if they think this guy deserves the $35k....

RawAlex · 04-27-2005, 02:03 PM

I had a ppc cmpany drop one of my accounts because they got too many SE bot hits (I had links on a site that got a ton of bot action). They had no way or no desire to filter it out, so it became unproductive traffic so they got rid of me.

When I stopped laughing, I called them idiots and moved on.

Alex

psyko514 · 04-27-2005, 02:25 PM

Dude, you're a fucking retard. You've posted in this thread 8 times, you've attacked IwantU, but you haven't even read the entire thread.

IwantU has already admitted there was a flaw in their PPC payout structure and that they'll be changing it to avoid a similar situation in the future.

His account has not been cancelled. It's been switched over to a lower PPC payout rate, as per there terms and conditions.

One hit, one signup is sketchy, no matter what anyone says. Someone would have to get extremely lucky to have a ratio like that, especially on a PPC program. And if IwantU says the signup became a chargeback, I don't doubt it. Anyone who does needs to get their head checked.

And since that signup became a chargeback, it negates the payout increase to $1 per click seeing as how the conditions for that payout are no longer true.

You guys can be dicks and speculate all you want about what would have happened if the signup was legit. Fact is no one will ever know, and more importantly, IT DOESN'T MATTER. The signup wasn't legit and assuming what the company would've done if it was only makes you look like an ass.

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

I'm not 'rooting' for this guy ... I'm just saying, when a sponsor make a major mistake like that, and blame everything but themselves, there is a serious problem ... if fuckups happen one day, will it be everybody's problems but theirs ?

I'm NOT saying they should pay the guy . Actually they should move him on a PPS sheme or something like that .

I'm saying they should admit their mistake and move on, and change the rules to fix the problem instead of telling lies after lies trying to discredit the guy that sent the traffic and played the game .

iwantu · 04-27-2005, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by psyko514

Dude, you're a fucking retard. You've posted in this thread 8 times, you've attacked IwantU, but you haven't even read the entire thread.

IwantU has already admitted there was a flaw in their PPC payout structure and that they'll be changing it to avoid a similar situation in the future.

His account has not been cancelled. It's been switched over to a lower PPC payout rate, as per there terms and conditions.

One hit, one signup is sketchy, no matter what anyone says. Someone would have to get extremely lucky to have a ratio like that, especially on a PPC program. And if IwantU says the signup became a chargeback, I don't doubt it. Anyone who does needs to get their head checked.

And since that signup became a chargeback, it negates the payout increase to $1 per click seeing as how the conditions for that payout are no longer true.

You guys can be dicks and speculate all you want about what would have happened if the signup was legit. Fact is no one will ever know, and more importantly, IT DOESN'T MATTER. The signup wasn't legit and assuming what the company would've done if it was only makes you look like an ass.

Thank you for the constructive comment psyko514!

IwantU.com has resolved the situation with Lex and we came up to an agreement. We do not like to have unhappy affiliates!

JD · 04-27-2005, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by iwantu

Thank you for the constructive comment psyko514!

IwantU.com has resolved the situation with Lex and we came up to an agreement. We do not like to have unhappy affiliates!

just out of curiousity what was the agreement?

Lex Bed · 04-27-2005, 02:40 PM

It's me here again.
As iwantu supports told me that 1 sign up i had on the previous week was "deleted" coz there
was a "return". So it means that I had ratio 1:0 and this why I'm not in the top100.
We made an agreement and everything gonna be allright. Have a nice day guys

SAM SIYC · 04-27-2005, 02:59 PM

Happy the problem is fixed.....

gfy storm calming down

party can continue

[CG] · 04-27-2005, 03:09 PM

alright!

So now I dont have to worry about anyone jumping IWU_Sam and Varius at the WA here next week! I can walk around with them safely

So we all go for a drink on it then!

Brujah · 04-27-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by IwantU SAM

and btw, after talking to Lex, I honestly beleive he had NO intentions of frauding or spamming the program.....
things just turned out real bad....and it escalated on the boards!

LOL riiiiggggghhhhttttttt.

Wednesday 1click, 1signup
No traffic til that magic $1 per click day, then BAM! Sudden flood of shit traffic.

Yep, sounds perfectly honest to me.

sonofsam · 04-27-2005, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

LOL riiiiggggghhhhttttttt.

Wednesday 1click, 1signup
No traffic til that magic $1 per click day, then BAM! Sudden flood of shit traffic.

Yep, sounds perfectly honest to me.

he didn't deny buying traffic....

SAM SIYC · 04-27-2005, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

LOL riiiiggggghhhhttttttt.

Wednesday 1click, 1signup
No traffic til that magic $1 per click day, then BAM! Sudden flood of shit traffic.

Yep, sounds perfectly honest to me.

Most important: everything is back to normal

Paparazzi · 04-27-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by iwantu

Good point.

We are going to fix that in the future by applying the ratio DAILY. So for the pay per click program only, afiliates will earn a PPC based on the day ratio.

As for other programs, they are all based on the number of signups sent.

Thanks for the comment.

If it was a legit signup he sent you it seems you owe him $35k...he played by your rules you had before. Call it abuse or whatever, you guys did NOT have a specific rule about this and now you changed to ratio DAILY. You made a mistake and got owned big time. This should cost you a bit of money but ofcourse you will not pay him $1/click for all his traffic.

Brujah · 04-27-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Paparazzi

If it was a legit signup he sent you it seems you owe him $35k...he played by your rules you had before. Call it abuse or whatever, you guys did NOT have a specific rule about this and now you changed to ratio DAILY. You made a mistake and got owned big time. This should cost you a bit of money but ofcourse you will not pay him $1/click for all his traffic.

You're starting to look really stupid. Reading is fundamental.

will76 · 04-27-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex Bed

It's me here again.
As iwantu supports told me that 1 sign up i had on the previous week was "deleted" coz there
was a "return". So it means that I had ratio 1:0 and this why I'm not in the top100.
We made an agreement and everything gonna be allright. Have a nice day guys

i wonder if they gave you more money then they are giving in their contest to make this thread stop... you seem happy, i am sure you got

Theo · 04-27-2005, 04:17 PM

here's a wise word i think alex from san diego told me in the past:

no sponsor will pay you more than what your traffic worths regardless if its' pps, ppc...and that's the bottom line of all payout schemes and this thread.

iwantu · 04-27-2005, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Paparazzi

If it was a legit signup he sent you it seems you owe him $35k...he played by your rules you had before. Call it abuse or whatever, you guys did NOT have a specific rule about this and now you changed to ratio DAILY. You made a mistake and got owned big time. This should cost you a bit of money but ofcourse you will not pay him $1/click for all his traffic.

Please read the thread entirely.
We never changed our rules and will never do. The only member that the affiliate referred resulted in a chargeback. Thus, his ratio dropped and his payout dropped.

Please read the thread again and let me know of any question.

iwantu · 04-27-2005, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

i wonder if they gave you more money then they are giving in their contest to make this thread stop... you seem happy, i am sure you got

We have been running this affiliate program since 1996! One unhappy affiliate will tell 7. So we prefer not to have unhappy affiliates ;-)

iwantu · 04-27-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

LOL riiiiggggghhhhttttttt.

Wednesday 1click, 1signup
No traffic til that magic $1 per click day, then BAM! Sudden flood of shit traffic.

Yep, sounds perfectly honest to me.

It could be possible though! We seen it happen before. Sometimes, the affiliates signup themselves to try to program as well.

Doctor Dre · 04-27-2005, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by psyko514

Dude, you're a fucking retard. You've posted in this thread 8 times, you've attacked IwantU, but you haven't even read the entire thread.

IwantU has already admitted there was a flaw in their PPC payout structure and that they'll be changing it to avoid a similar situation in the future.

His account has not been cancelled. It's been switched over to a lower PPC payout rate, as per there terms and conditions.

One hit, one signup is sketchy, no matter what anyone says. Someone would have to get extremely lucky to have a ratio like that, especially on a PPC program. And if IwantU says the signup became a chargeback, I don't doubt it. Anyone who does needs to get their head checked.

And since that signup became a chargeback, it negates the payout increase to $1 per click seeing as how the conditions for that payout are no longer true.

You guys can be dicks and speculate all you want about what would have happened if the signup was legit. Fact is no one will ever know, and more importantly, IT DOESN'T MATTER. The signup wasn't legit and assuming what the company would've done if it was only makes you look like an ass.

Maybe YOU need to read the whole thread ...

He's a spammer, then he's not, lies after lies . They just should tell straight up :

We are not paying 35k $ for 0 $ .

SleazyDream · 04-27-2005, 08:14 PM

wow - i make more with AFF - and a LOT (and i mean a LOT - many times) more - than iwantu's top affiliate and apparently i don't think i'm even in the top 20 anymore of aff's montly client list.

stroker · 04-27-2005, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Finally someone making sense.

Ofcause they are not going to pay $35K for nothing no program would.
No matter if the signup is legit or not the guy found a loophole and tried to cash in on it. What did he think they would pay him $100K at the end of the period for nothing? Sorry to disappoint you the real world don´t work like this NO ONE would pay in a situation like this.

If their not going to pay, they shouldn't offer that type of program.

SleazyDream · 04-27-2005, 08:16 PM

maybe one of the reasons affiliates like me and ones that make a LOT more like me USE aff is that AFF won't publish my numbers.

think about it

SAM SIYC · 04-27-2005, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

maybe one of the reasons affiliates like me and ones that make a LOT more like me USE aff is that AFF won't publish my numbers.

think about it

I agree with you that some people prefer these numbers to be private.
This is why we do not include private accounts in this top100 list.

by a simple request, affiliates can set their account to "private"

RawAlex · 04-27-2005, 09:21 PM

AFF is the favorite program of every spammer in the universe. I get more spam daily that goes there than any other program, except for the truly annoying people down the 401 that promote "julie's cam". Stunning levels of spam, most of it filted but some still gets through (stuff like "Meeting tomorrow" and "consider this proposal" type stuff is hard to filter accurately). I don't blame the owners of aff directly, I just report what I see.

Alex

Brujah · 04-27-2005, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

maybe one of the reasons affiliates like me and ones that make a LOT more like me USE aff is that AFF won't publish my numbers.

think about it

Didn't you see all the "Anonymous" listings ? Idiot.

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