Who produces more ROI on traffic Sleazy or Choker? - GoFuckYourself.com

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 03:45 PM

Who produces more ROI on traffic Sleazy or Choker?

Dollar for dollar, where would your money be better invested? Time for some afternoon drama. Who has $2k to do a real heads up test. No phony rigged bullshit where someone goes out and buys a win at the end. We've seen that before. Post the galleries, post the results, post the niche bought etc.

Christ, I don't even know if Sleazy will sell anything for just a mere $1K. Guess I gotta find cybercat or whatever to find out.

Basic_man · 04-26-2005, 03:46 PM

I didn't test Sleazy traffic yet, but I'd say Choker !

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man

I didn't test Sleazy traffic yet, but I'd say Choker !

He uses a broker. Guess that's really elite??? I'd luv to see an honest test if that is possible. I know Choker will play it heads up! Is Sleazy man enough?

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 03:52 PM

that question shows you don't even have a fucking clue.

you can't even compare one hardcore site to another hardcore site.

reality is - testing is the only thing that will show where your money is best spent. A paysite that does well on one traffic source might do shit on another - and both traffic sites might fall under the same paremiters. There is no rhime or reason to it, and anyone that has a clue about buying traffic will concur.

Test your site everywhere you can with SMALL amouts of money - and those places that work FOR YOU - buy lots more - those that don't - move on or try something else.

I don't rely on my ads, i have pre-paid advertising only cause i'm lazy. Before selling ads I made the about the same money as I do selling ads, it's just less work and i'm really lazy but if i don't sell out i don't care cause it really doesn't effect my bottem line - in fact i often make more. Few people selling advertising can say that.

and if you think that's bullshit - ask AFF if i'm fibbing.

detoxed · 04-26-2005, 03:53 PM

lets just get some apples and oranges, then see which one tastes more like apple.

pradaboy · 04-26-2005, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

lets just get some apples and oranges, then see which one tastes more like apple.

I'd say the banana

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man

I didn't test Sleazy traffic yet, but I'd say Choker !

you're soo silly

beemk · 04-26-2005, 03:56 PM

who cares? if you can make $ on them use both sites.

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

that question shows you don't even have a fucking clue.

you can't even compare one hardcore site to another hardcore site.

reality is - testing is the only thing that will show where your money is best spent. A paysite that does well on one traffic source might do shit on another - and both traffic sites might fall under the same paremiters. There is no rhime or reason to it, and anyone that has a clue about buying traffic will concur.

Test your site everywhere you can with SMALL amouts of money - and those places that work FOR YOU - buy lots more - those that don't - move on or try something else.

I don't rely on my ads, i have pre-paid advertising only cause i'm lazy. Before selling ads I made the about the same money as I do selling ads, it's just less work and i'm really lazy but if i don't sell out i don't care cause it really doesn't effect my bottem line - in fact i often make more. Few people selling advertising can say that.

and if you think that's bullshit - ask AFF if i'm fibbing.

Well guess I'm clueless??? Don't you sell advertising on sleazydream.com? Wondering what kind of results I'd get if I invested my advertising dollar there? The rest is just bullshit. OK, we're both lazy!

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 03:57 PM

choker DOES deal with a LOT (not all) of traffic sources that I consider to be less than desirable though.

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

who cares? if you can make $ on them use both sites.

I care if I'm getting ready to buy some serious traffic. Plus we needed a little drama goin on the board, I know I can count on Sleazy for some drama action.

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Well guess I'm clueless??? Don't you sell advertising on sleazydream.com? Wondering what kind of results I'd get if I invested my advertising dollar there? The rest is just bullshit. OK, we're both lazy!

i'm sure you'd have a TOTALLY fair and unbiases test too. - esp considering you have choker' program in your sig.

to be honest I couldn't give a flying fuck if all the cheating hitbot people choker does business with make 100X more sales than me.

I have a solid business and i know my own resluts. so do my repeat clients.

you're soo silly

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

choker DOES deal with a LOT (not all) of traffic sources that I consider to be less than desirable though.

That's crap and you know it. You're just pissed cause he beat you at your own game.

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i'm sure you'd have a TOTALLY fair and unbiases test too. - esp considering you have choker' program in your sig.

to be honest I couldn't give a flying fuck if all the cheating hitbot people choker does business with make 100X more sales than me.

I have a solid business and i know my own resluts. so do my repeat clients.

you're soo silly

I'm silly??? are you trying to flirt with me?

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

That's crap and you know it. You're just pissed cause he beat you at your own game.

dude - LOOK at the sites he gets his traffic from. most are total CRAP. Ok, there's a few that are ok but the VAST majority are CRAP. ANYONE with an OUNCE of intelligence in the tgp game knows that.

enough said.

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

That's crap and you know it. You're just pissed cause he beat you at your own game.

crack?

...

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:04 PM

Ok - here's an ad for you to make things fair:

I sale ads cheap!

After Shock Media · 04-26-2005, 04:05 PM

We are currently already talking with cybercat to pick up various listings and Sleazy's site is on our list to try spots on. We will be pushing a hardcore site and figure it should do well. We also are going to be testing askjolene as well all three slots at the hun as they become available (on waiting list now). We did not factor in trying chokers traffic out during these buys. We could and probably would just to know for ourselves.

Give me a reason or insentive to share all results and I will add in choker and give up results. Since that would require us to spend close to 1000.00 extra.

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:05 PM

That will be a red X soon, so enjoy while you can.

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Ok - here's an ad for you to make things fair:

I sale ads cheap!

burgers arn't cheap (least the good ones arn't)

but i hear hot dogs are very inexpensive

buuuuhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahaha

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi

We are currently already talking with cybercat to pick up various listings and Sleazy's site is on our list to try spots on. We will be pushing a hardcore site and figure it should do well. We also are going to be testing askjolene as well all three slots at the hun as they become available (on waiting list now). We did not factor in trying chokers traffic out during these buys. We could and probably would just to know for ourselves.

Give me a reason or insentive to share all results and I will add in choker and give up results. Since that would require us to spend close to 1000.00 extra.

personally i would sugest you try choker's traffic - I don't sugest trying a TON of it to start but a small test - and small is a relative term in regards to your own budget - but a small test would be smart for you to try. it does work well for some people - not all - but no ad broker works well for everyone. any ad broker that says they are all things to every program is full of shit.

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi

We are currently already talking with cybercat to pick up various listings and Sleazy's site is on our list to try spots on. We will be pushing a hardcore site and figure it should do well. We also are going to be testing askjolene as well all three slots at the hun as they become available (on waiting list now). We did not factor in trying chokers traffic out during these buys. We could and probably would just to know for ourselves.

Give me a reason or insentive to share all results and I will add in choker and give up results. Since that would require us to spend close to 1000.00 extra.

Ok, to be serious, I would add choker because you can focus your investment by lanquage, niche and adjust where you apply traffic on the fly. I'll let choker do the serious selling of his service on his own. My serious advice though is to include him in your mix.

MetaformX · 04-26-2005, 04:10 PM

This thread will probably get ugly

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Ok, to be serious, I would add choker because you can focus your investment by lanquage, niche and adjust where you apply traffic on the fly. I'll let choker do the serious selling of his service on his own. My serious advice though is to include him in your mix.

hitbots come is all languages, niches, and can be adjusted on the fly.

as a general rule of thumb - and this is from experience in trading traffic and from buying traffic - the more someone filters the traffic for you the worse it gets cause they often play games with it.
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just a fact of life.

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

personally i would sugest you try choker's traffic - I don't sugest trying a TON of it to start but a small test - and small is a relative term in regards to your own budget - but a small test would be smart for you to try. it does work well for some people - not all - but no ad broker works well for everyone. any ad broker that says they are all things to every program is full of shit.

Damn, you're not always a total asshole.... well put from your point of view.

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Damn, you're not always a total asshole.... well put from your point of view.

i resent that

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

burgers arn't cheap (least the good ones arn't)

but i hear hot dogs are very inexpensive

buuuuhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahaha

Grew up in Chicago - luv hotdogs of course. I see you ate more burgers than I did dogs though.

pradaboy · 04-26-2005, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Ok, to be serious, I would add choker because you can focus your investment by lanquage, niche and adjust where you apply traffic on the fly. I'll let choker do the serious selling of his service on his own. My serious advice though is to include him in your mix.

that's the difference, Choker offers traffic for almost any niche and any sort of traffic. Sleazy runs a TGP and sells spots on there. I for one can vouch that the results on SD are incredible if you target the right niche and have a clue about building galleries.

Choker's traffic on the other hand is good too, can be purchased in smaller numbers and controlled at any time (hits/hour)

where did you get this strange idea that you can compare them? Promote a single girl site on SD and you make maybe 2 or 3 sales, buying teen traffic for it from Choker will make more... I can guarantee this. Hit the right niche on SD and make a clean gallery and you make 200% to 300% ROI

It's all about what you want to achieve and what you want to promote. Give them both a swing and be your own judge

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

hitbots come is all languages, niches, and can be adjusted on the fly.

as a general rule of thumb - and this is from experience in trading traffic and from buying traffic - the more someone filters the traffic for you the worse it gets cause they often play games with it.
\
just a fact of life.

Choker comes down hard on the hitbots and cheaters , you know that!

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Choker comes down hard on the hitbots and cheaters , you know that!

the ones he CATCHES yes, what about the ones he isn't able to catch?

they exist

hydro · 04-26-2005, 04:16 PM

fuck the movies, its gfy drama night!

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pradaboy

that's the difference, Choker offers traffic for almost any niche and any sort of traffic. Sleazy runs a TGP and sells spots on there. I for one can vouch that the results on SD are incredible if you target the right niche and have a clue about building galleries.

Choker's traffic on the other hand is good too, can be purchased in smaller numbers and controlled at any time (hits/hour)

where did you get this strange idea that you can compare them? Promote a single girl site on SD and you make maybe 2 or 3 sales, buying teen traffic for it from Choker will make more... I can guarantee this. Hit the right niche on SD and make a clean gallery and you make 200% to 300% ROI

It's all about what you want to achieve and what you want to promote. Give them both a swing and be your own judge

good answer and pretty much spot on.

SleazyDream · 04-26-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Grew up in Chicago - luv hotdogs of course. I see you ate more burgers than I did dogs though.

that one 747ed you - might have been before your time....

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy

that's the difference, Choker offers traffic for almost any niche and any sort of traffic. Sleazy runs a TGP and sells spots on there. I for one can vouch that the results on SD are incredible if you target the right niche and have a clue about building galleries.

Choker's traffic on the other hand is good too, can be purchased in smaller numbers and controlled at any time (hits/hour)

where did you get this strange idea that you can compare them? Promote a single girl site on SD and you make maybe 2 or 3 sales, buying teen traffic for it from Choker will make more... I can guarantee this. Hit the right niche on SD and make a clean gallery and you make 200% to 300% ROI

It's all about what you want to achieve and what you want to promote. Give them both a swing and be your own judge

Good point. It really isn't and could never be an exact comparison. Still, I'd luve for someone to try a niche that fit sleazy's site to do a heads up compare aginst choker with a compatible niche selected.

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

that one 747ed you - might have been before your time....

Christ man, do you know how old I am? Before my time??????

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

the ones he CATCHES yes, what about the ones he isn't able to catch?

they exist

You've never had anyone fuck with your site?

pradaboy · 04-26-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Good point. It really isn't and could never be an exact comparison. Still, I'd luve for someone to try a niche that fit sleazy's site to do a heads up compare aginst choker with a compatible niche selected.

I'm not stopping you

$900 for 4 spots on SD (as far as I remember)

invest another $900 in Choker traffic

use the same gallery with different accounts and you're set

Juicy D. Links · 04-26-2005, 04:23 PM

2 diff types of traffic sources. I am sure they both are nice , tbh it boils down to what yourselling and how you market the end product.

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaformX

This thread will probably get ugly

naw, Sleazy showed (to his credit) his soft side. Maybe if Choker comes along stokes the flames a bit.

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

2 diff types of traffic sources. I am sure they both are nice , tbh it boils down to what yourselling and how you market the end product.

Mr. Juice how was the massage.

Hey this isn't logical, this is drama!! It helps your post count!

andrej_NDC · 04-26-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

that question shows you don't even have a fucking clue.

you can't even compare one hardcore site to another hardcore site.

reality is - testing is the only thing that will show where your money is best spent. A paysite that does well on one traffic source might do shit on another - and both traffic sites might fall under the same paremiters. There is no rhime or reason to it, and anyone that has a clue about buying traffic will concur.

Test your site everywhere you can with SMALL amouts of money - and those places that work FOR YOU - buy lots more - those that don't - move on or try something else.

I don't rely on my ads, i have pre-paid advertising only cause i'm lazy. Before selling ads I made the about the same money as I do selling ads, it's just less work and i'm really lazy but if i don't sell out i don't care cause it really doesn't effect my bottem line - in fact i often make more. Few people selling advertising can say that.

and if you think that's bullshit - ask AFF if i'm fibbing.

please dont stop beeing lazy and continue selling ads

pornguy · 04-26-2005, 04:45 PM

I have used Choker, but never sleazy. So I can not really say. But If I were you, I woudl try them both and make that decision for your self. One may work better for you than another.

After Shock Media · 04-26-2005, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

personally i would sugest you try choker's traffic - I don't sugest trying a TON of it to start but a small test - and small is a relative term in regards to your own budget - but a small test would be smart for you to try. it does work well for some people - not all - but no ad broker works well for everyone. any ad broker that says they are all things to every program is full of shit.

Thanks for your suggestion. We are not just pushing it through an affiliate program nor is it a new site either. We have been promoting for close to two years now and doing very well. We are looking to do tests and expand beyond open submitting and partner accounts. We already understand it is a gamble and we plan on trying everyone no matter if we like the people or not.
We are pretty damn sure it should convert from your site. As for chokers that is up in the air. We have used him before for other stuff and the problem was it took to long to get what we needed.

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi

Thanks for your suggestion. We are not just pushing it through an affiliate program nor is it a new site either. We have been promoting for close to two years now and doing very well. We are looking to do tests and expand beyond open submitting and partner accounts. We already understand it is a gamble and we plan on trying everyone no matter if we like the people or not.
We are pretty damn sure it should convert from your site. As for chokers that is up in the air. We have used him before for other stuff and the problem was it took to long to get what we needed.

There have been some changes at Choker's site. I can't speak for him of course. I do think there is more traffic available now in most niches.

To be fair, if you are a serious investor in traffic, contact Choker directly. Just an affiliate here.

CJTraffic · 04-26-2005, 04:55 PM

It depends on your budget, the nature and quality of your site. If TGP traffic is what works for you, then that's great. Sleazy and Choker are both great sources.

We've found that many sites higher end sites with bigger buddgets, they do much better with the higher quality traffic we offer. Especially with our new Floating flash ad, check it out - http://www.cjtraffic.com/ad_floatingad.html We've had several clients use this one in the last month and the response has been absolutely incredible.

Talk to you soon...

justsexxx · 04-26-2005, 05:12 PM

If ou love Chinese surfers pick one, when not pick the other

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

crack?

...

Viagra...

Nicky · 04-26-2005, 05:26 PM

love is in the air

CaptainHowdy · 04-26-2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky

love is in the air

ROCK!

pussyluver · 04-26-2005, 06:06 PM

Bump

04-26-2005, 03:45 PM	#1
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Who produces more ROI on traffic Sleazy or Choker? Who produces more ROI on traffic Sleazy or Choker? Dollar for dollar, where would your money be better invested? Time for some afternoon drama. Who has $2k to do a real heads up test. No phony rigged bullshit where someone goes out and buys a win at the end. We've seen that before. Post the galleries, post the results, post the niche bought etc. Christ, I don't even know if Sleazy will sell anything for just a mere $1K. Guess I gotta find cybercat or whatever to find out.

04-26-2005, 03:46 PM	#2
Basic_man Programming King Pin Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 27,360	I didn't test Sleazy traffic yet, but I'd say Choker ! __________________ UUGallery Builder - automated photo/video gallery plugin for Wordpress! Stop looking! Checkout Naked Hosting, online since 1999 !

04-26-2005, 03:52 PM	#4
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	that question shows you don't even have a fucking clue. you can't even compare one hardcore site to another hardcore site. reality is - testing is the only thing that will show where your money is best spent. A paysite that does well on one traffic source might do shit on another - and both traffic sites might fall under the same paremiters. There is no rhime or reason to it, and anyone that has a clue about buying traffic will concur. Test your site everywhere you can with SMALL amouts of money - and those places that work FOR YOU - buy lots more - those that don't - move on or try something else. I don't rely on my ads, i have pre-paid advertising only cause i'm lazy. Before selling ads I made the about the same money as I do selling ads, it's just less work and i'm really lazy but if i don't sell out i don't care cause it really doesn't effect my bottem line - in fact i often make more. Few people selling advertising can say that. and if you think that's bullshit - ask AFF if i'm fibbing. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

04-26-2005, 03:56 PM	#8
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04-26-2005, 03:57 PM	#10
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	choker DOES deal with a LOT (not all) of traffic sources that I consider to be less than desirable though. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

04-26-2005, 03:53 PM	#5
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	lets just get some apples and oranges, then see which one tastes more like apple.

04-26-2005, 04:04 PM	#17
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Ok - here's an ad for you to make things fair: I sale ads cheap!

04-26-2005, 04:05 PM	#18
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Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	2 diff types of traffic sources. I am sure they both are nice , tbh it boils down to what yourselling and how you market the end product.

04-26-2005, 04:45 PM	#42
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04-26-2005, 04:55 PM	#45
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04-26-2005, 06:06 PM	#50
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Bump