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kane · 01-12-2002, 02:34 AM

I've noticed a lot of new people around the boards lately so I thought I would post this. I'm no Lensman, Fantasyman or Hun, I don't even own a paysite and I'm not even BP4L ( although I do live in the same town

) But I do pretty good in this biz and these are a few of the books I read that gave me some good ideas:

1.Triggers : How to Use the Psychological Triggers of Selling to Motivate, Persuade & Influence
by Joseph Sugarman, Dick Hafer (Illustrator), Ron Hugher (Compiler)- this is an invaluable book. When it comes right down to it, we are not in the porn biz or the web design biz or the photography biz we are in the sales biz and this book really hels you understand what triggers people and makes them want to buy.

2.Advertising Secrets of the Written Word by by Joseph Sugarman, Dick Hafer (Illustrator) another great book about ad writing and selling

these two are really about investing and budgeting your money. . . they most likly won't make you rich but they really helped open my eyes to debt, money and investing.

1. 9 Steps to Financial Freedom by Suze Orman

2. Wealth in a Decade by Brett MacHtig

and then a work of fiction you can either read the play or watch the movie they are both great

Glengarry Glen Ross by david mament

anyway, these are some of the books I read a while back that have helped me make more money with my sites and then budget it and save it.

Hope you read them and they help you too.

titmowse · 01-12-2002, 02:38 AM

What? No reseller IDs? Just reading suggestions? What's the catch?

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boneprone · 01-12-2002, 02:39 AM

Do they have them on DvD?

kane · 01-12-2002, 02:40 AM

nope no reseller id's they do have glengary glenross on DVD

Anyone else have any reading suggestions.

boneprone · 01-12-2002, 02:41 AM

After Graduating College, I promised myself I would never read another book.

But the first book you posted sounds intresting.

Still its a book, and still the thought of one makes me gag.

kane · 01-12-2002, 02:49 AM

you know what I always thought would be funny is if someone wrote a book that was filled with nothing but good pulling text links for adult sites and then did a book on tape of it so I could drive around in my car with the windows down and have some sexy voice blaring things like " Fuck my raw pussy!" " Wanna help me shave my pussy." " I need you to cum on my face." ect. . .

it would be good clean fun for all.

funkmaster · 01-12-2002, 04:03 AM

"it would be good clean fun for all."

... do this with a gay version and drive through kingston/jamaica ... and let us now how you did !!

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BrettJ · 01-12-2002, 05:20 AM

If I could plug a few I find useful -

Negotiations - (business 2 business sales & negotiating with the woman)
"GETTING TO YES" by Roger Fisher and William Ury. Everything that needs to be said about negotiating.

Strategy, Confidence, Inspiration
"THE ART OF WAR" by Sun Tzu - quick read, only a handful of pages - great reminders - sound strategy. re read every few months.

Life Strategy - Focus and Discipline
"7 HABITS OF HIGHLY EFFECTIVE PEOPLE" by stephen covey (much has been said about Covey, but the ideas are right on the money)

For Fun - FLOW by mihaly csikszentmihalyi - a great book to couple with 7 habits...has you examine your life to find out what makes you happy.

pst.... GREAT THREAD, Thanks!

~brettj

BrettJ · 01-12-2002, 05:22 AM

nearly forgot

Designing Web Page usability.

I just picked it up last week. It's a great book but he makes some comments about advertising...which of course should be taken with a grain of salt since that's the way we all pay our bills.

~BrettJ

^R3K^ · 01-12-2002, 05:32 AM

I shared my modivation book's titles with a friend the other day. interesting that this would pop up. the two that i reccomend are ones that a person would not see as books that would hlp you with buisness but they help me alot.

1: the godfather.. not the movie.. read the original book. there is so much information in there that is is almost a gameplan for success. and i model myself and my buisness after it. (except for the killings ;-)
2: The Good Earth : yeah i know you read it as a kid in school, but read it now and look between the lines. it has alot of information about being meek while rising to the top!

hope you like them. like i said, the movies are not like the books so use your brains and soak it in.
R3K

^R3K^ · 01-12-2002, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrettJ:

Life Strategy - Focus and Discipline
"7 HABITS OF HIGHLY EFFECTIVE PEOPLE" by stephen covey (much has been said about Covey, but the ideas are right on the money)
~brettj

I also reccomend.. very good book!

BrettJ · 01-12-2002, 09:32 AM

After posting last night... i picked up and starting reading FLOW again... what a sweet book...

It reassures me that I'm normal for sinking myself into my work for hours on end...missing meals and forgetting to go to bed. I need somebody telling me that's okay...cuz most people are hypercritical...

Now I can tell them with confidence to go fuck themselves, I'm in my "optimal expierence"!

Dopy · 01-12-2002, 09:46 AM

How to Use the Psychological Triggers of Selling to Motivate, Persuade & Influence
by Joseph Sugarman

Great book - there is life beyond consoles

AWW - Kevin · 01-12-2002, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kane:
Anyone else have any reading suggestions.

Yes I do
!! The Art of War !!

Great Stuff !

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jimmyf · 01-12-2002, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kane:
nope no reseller id's they do have glengary glenross on DVD

Anyone else have any reading suggestions.

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kush · 01-12-2002, 01:38 PM

FINALLY! Something to use that November fatpockets gift certificate to Amazon on!

Thanks guys

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heymatty · 01-12-2002, 06:59 PM

I am just getting going with Unleashing thr Ideavirus by Seth Godin

Shaping up ok.

SykkBoy · 01-12-2002, 08:05 PM

"The Alchemy Of Finance" by George Soros
"The Greatest Salesman In The World" by Og Mandino
"Perpetual Motivation" by Dave Durand

oh and of course "Private Parts" by Howard Stern ;)))

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pimplink · 01-12-2002, 09:36 PM

Seth Godin's book on permission marketing is pretty good, too. Double optin list marketing converts!

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kane · 01-13-2002, 12:03 AM

private parts rocks ! I love that book and the movie.

Nedder · 01-13-2002, 10:52 AM

i think in reference to great reading that will get you far in this biz you have to look at American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis.

Nz

kane · 01-14-2002, 12:29 AM

Ellis is one of my favorite writers although I couldn't get through Glamorama. American Psycho is one of 3 books that phsically disturbed me

01-12-2002, 02:34 AM	#1
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	required reading for adult webmasters I've noticed a lot of new people around the boards lately so I thought I would post this. I'm no Lensman, Fantasyman or Hun, I don't even own a paysite and I'm not even BP4L ( although I do live in the same town ) But I do pretty good in this biz and these are a few of the books I read that gave me some good ideas: 1.Triggers : How to Use the Psychological Triggers of Selling to Motivate, Persuade & Influence by Joseph Sugarman, Dick Hafer (Illustrator), Ron Hugher (Compiler)- this is an invaluable book. When it comes right down to it, we are not in the porn biz or the web design biz or the photography biz we are in the sales biz and this book really hels you understand what triggers people and makes them want to buy. 2.Advertising Secrets of the Written Word by by Joseph Sugarman, Dick Hafer (Illustrator) another great book about ad writing and selling these two are really about investing and budgeting your money. . . they most likly won't make you rich but they really helped open my eyes to debt, money and investing. 1. 9 Steps to Financial Freedom by Suze Orman 2. Wealth in a Decade by Brett MacHtig and then a work of fiction you can either read the play or watch the movie they are both great Glengarry Glen Ross by david mament anyway, these are some of the books I read a while back that have helped me make more money with my sites and then budget it and save it. Hope you read them and they help you too.

01-12-2002, 02:38 AM	#2
titmowse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: TEXAS Posts: 5,320	What? No reseller IDs? Just reading suggestions? What's the catch? ------------------ love, tit learn search find Elite member of the Boneprone Family

01-12-2002, 02:39 AM	#3
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	can't read ------------------ Best Paying Sponsors: TCG - The own the best Converting CELEB paysites!! ARS - Best PayPerSignup + AVS Sponsor ICQ: 59101924

01-12-2002, 02:39 AM	#4
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Do they have them on DvD?

01-12-2002, 02:40 AM	#5
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	nope no reseller id's they do have glengary glenross on DVD Anyone else have any reading suggestions.

01-12-2002, 02:41 AM	#6
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	After Graduating College, I promised myself I would never read another book. But the first book you posted sounds intresting. Still its a book, and still the thought of one makes me gag.

01-12-2002, 02:49 AM	#7
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	you know what I always thought would be funny is if someone wrote a book that was filled with nothing but good pulling text links for adult sites and then did a book on tape of it so I could drive around in my car with the windows down and have some sexy voice blaring things like " Fuck my raw pussy!" " Wanna help me shave my pussy." " I need you to cum on my face." ect. . . it would be good clean fun for all.

01-12-2002, 04:03 AM	#8
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"it would be good clean fun for all." ... do this with a gay version and drive through kingston/jamaica ... and let us now how you did !! ------------------ Don't innovate - imitate!

01-12-2002, 05:20 AM	#9
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	If I could plug a few I find useful - Negotiations - (business 2 business sales & negotiating with the woman) "GETTING TO YES" by Roger Fisher and William Ury. Everything that needs to be said about negotiating. Strategy, Confidence, Inspiration "THE ART OF WAR" by Sun Tzu - quick read, only a handful of pages - great reminders - sound strategy. re read every few months. Life Strategy - Focus and Discipline "7 HABITS OF HIGHLY EFFECTIVE PEOPLE" by stephen covey (much has been said about Covey, but the ideas are right on the money) For Fun - FLOW by mihaly csikszentmihalyi - a great book to couple with 7 habits...has you examine your life to find out what makes you happy. pst.... GREAT THREAD, Thanks! ~brettj

01-12-2002, 05:22 AM	#10
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	nearly forgot Designing Web Page usability. I just picked it up last week. It's a great book but he makes some comments about advertising...which of course should be taken with a grain of salt since that's the way we all pay our bills. ~BrettJ

01-12-2002, 05:32 AM	#11
^R3K^ Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,815	I shared my modivation book's titles with a friend the other day. interesting that this would pop up. the two that i reccomend are ones that a person would not see as books that would hlp you with buisness but they help me alot. 1: the godfather.. not the movie.. read the original book. there is so much information in there that is is almost a gameplan for success. and i model myself and my buisness after it. (except for the killings ;-) 2: The Good Earth : yeah i know you read it as a kid in school, but read it now and look between the lines. it has alot of information about being meek while rising to the top! hope you like them. like i said, the movies are not like the books so use your brains and soak it in. R3K

01-12-2002, 09:32 AM	#13
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	After posting last night... i picked up and starting reading FLOW again... what a sweet book... It reassures me that I'm normal for sinking myself into my work for hours on end...missing meals and forgetting to go to bed. I need somebody telling me that's okay...cuz most people are hypercritical... Now I can tell them with confidence to go fuck themselves, I'm in my "optimal expierence"!

01-12-2002, 09:46 AM	#14
Dopy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Puerto Del Carmen, Lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 1,572	How to Use the Psychological Triggers of Selling to Motivate, Persuade & Influence by Joseph Sugarman Great book - there is life beyond consoles

01-12-2002, 01:38 PM	#17
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	FINALLY! Something to use that November fatpockets gift certificate to Amazon on! Thanks guys ------------------ ** Wreaking havoc in Austin!!!

01-12-2002, 06:59 PM	#18
heymatty Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Scottsdale :) Posts: 2,188	I am just getting going with Unleashing thr Ideavirus by Seth Godin Shaping up ok.

01-12-2002, 08:05 PM	#19
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	"The Alchemy Of Finance" by George Soros "The Greatest Salesman In The World" by Og Mandino "Perpetual Motivation" by Dave Durand oh and of course "Private Parts" by Howard Stern ;))) ------------------ "It's all fun and games until somebody gets their scrotum caught in the door." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "It is not how right or how wrong you are that matters but how much money you make when right and how much you do not lose when wrong " - George Soros +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Making Bank $84 per trial signup? How is it possible? Evil is as evil does Dark Dollars

01-12-2002, 09:36 PM	#20
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	Seth Godin's book on permission marketing is pretty good, too. Double optin list marketing converts! ------------------ Get Paid $2 for every FREE Signup. 20% Webmaster Program

01-13-2002, 12:03 AM	#21
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	private parts rocks ! I love that book and the movie.

01-13-2002, 10:52 AM	#22
Nedder Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 555	i think in reference to great reading that will get you far in this biz you have to look at American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis. Nz

01-14-2002, 12:29 AM	#23
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Ellis is one of my favorite writers although I couldn't get through Glamorama. American Psycho is one of 3 books that phsically disturbed me