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Old 04-23-2005, 06:14 AM   #1
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Ibill must actually want to be back in business

Ibill must have the right intentions to get back into business and not rip off everyone. They are paying people and not deducting processing fees.

With the recent payments that have been made would you consider using them as a processor? Even if it was just on a cascading billing system and they were the 2nd processor?
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Old 04-23-2005, 06:18 AM   #2
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Ibill is SHIT until they start paying the affiliates, right now they're still pocketing their money!
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Old 04-23-2005, 06:18 AM   #3
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After i recieved my payments maybe...
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Old 04-23-2005, 06:28 AM   #4
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When Ibill pays everyone off without taking a processor fee they'll run their bank accounts dry. Then guess what? The cycle will repeat. But now they'll need more money to make up for such a stupid business move.
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Old 04-23-2005, 06:45 AM   #5
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FUCK IBILL, they are still taking WEB900 money and they are getting web900 money and they ARE NOT paying on web900 money. I have $10k lost in web900 for 6 months worth that I found they were not paying me for too late.

When they pay everyone what they were owed and are back on their feet fully then maybe people might goto the bother of using them as 3rd cascaded processor but I doubt it
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Old 04-23-2005, 06:47 AM   #6
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Old 04-23-2005, 06:48 AM   #7
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Ibill must have the right intentions to get back into business and not rip off everyone. They are paying people and not deducting processing fees.

With the recent payments that have been made would you consider using them as a processor? Even if it was just on a cascading billing system and they were the 2nd processor?
I think we have to make a careful distinction. I've read that it's actually First Data that is paying Ibill clients directly rather than Ibill paying clients.
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Old 04-23-2005, 06:50 AM   #8
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I think we have to make a careful distinction. I've read that it's actually First Data that is paying Ibill clients directly rather than Ibill paying clients.
exactly none of this money came out of ibills pocket. They're still broke and now robbing the affiliates to keep them afloat.
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Old 04-23-2005, 07:13 AM   #9
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I think we have to make a careful distinction. I've read that it's actually First Data that is paying Ibill clients directly rather than Ibill paying clients.
You beat me to it. The current round of wires is NOT from Ibill. Interesting how many people are confused on that point.
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Old 04-23-2005, 07:44 AM   #10
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Your points are all very valid but something that I think needs to be recognized... 7 months after they started this downward spiral, there are people in place that appear to be acting with the right intentions on getting webmaster's paid. With the cashflow issues they are faced with, it would be impossible to pay everyone all at once. If they have any intention on getting back on their feet, I'm sure they realize they need to pay EVERYONE, revsharers and web900 included. Fuck iBill? Probably so. But everyone knows the easier road would have been to fuck all of you. I'm not defending anyone here, just pointing out the obvious.
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Old 04-23-2005, 07:45 AM   #11
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Ibill is SHIT until they start paying the affiliates, right now they're still pocketing their money!

Exactly! Keeping the affilaites 50% EVERY time they rebill.
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Old 04-23-2005, 07:55 AM   #12
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i'm just happy i'm getting my money.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:00 AM   #13
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i'm just happy i'm getting my money.
no you're getting a portion of your money and promises they will pay the rest over the next two years.

Its amazing how many of you are willing to forgive and forget for pennies on the dollar.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:01 AM   #14
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Your points are all very valid but something that I think needs to be recognized... 7 months after they started this downward spiral, there are people in place that appear to be acting with the right intentions on getting webmaster's paid. With the cashflow issues they are faced with, it would be impossible to pay everyone all at once. If they have any intention on getting back on their feet, I'm sure they realize they need to pay EVERYONE, revsharers and web900 included. Fuck iBill? Probably so. But everyone knows the easier road would have been to fuck all of you. I'm not defending anyone here, just pointing out the obvious.
Think what you will but witholding affiliate monies from the master accounts and putting it in their pockets instead of distributing it to the webmasters is theft plan and simple.
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:02 AM   #15
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Old 04-23-2005, 08:08 AM   #16
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Fuck iBill? Probably so. But everyone knows the easier road would have been to fuck all of you.
can we all day GLOBILL?
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Old 04-23-2005, 03:47 PM   #17
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How do we get the other 81% they owe ?
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Old 04-24-2005, 03:45 AM   #18
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I don't trust them too
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:00 AM   #19
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Fuck iBill? Probably so. But everyone knows the easier road would have been to fuck all of you. I'm not defending anyone here, just pointing out the obvious.
It's a long way from being that simple. Closing the doors immediately is often not the best way to line your pockets if you're in the right position in the company and are trying to avoid a jail term, so really it isn't quite that obvious.
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:12 AM   #20
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I dont think iŽd setup something new with them anytime soon...
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Old 04-24-2005, 05:47 AM   #21
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..after I take a long smelly shit! I signed the contract and got $1200 out of $18,000 they owe. Fuck them.
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Old 04-24-2005, 07:12 AM   #22
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So, what are the possibilities they CAN come back. It's been done. Once. Can it be done again?
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Old 04-24-2005, 07:28 AM   #23
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..after I take a long smelly shit! I signed the contract and got $1200 out of $18,000 they owe. Fuck them.
Good Reply!

I feel the same way.

First Data i thought had all there money? and they give us a shitty%age.

Fuck IBILL.
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Old 04-24-2005, 07:32 AM   #24
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We will use ibill like a third backup processing in our cascade system of billings... Give it a shot!
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Old 04-24-2005, 09:25 AM   #25
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Old 04-24-2005, 09:35 AM   #26
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Has anyone received their "First Data" money yet? I'm just curious because I'm still waiting on mine even though I signed that stupid agreement.
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Old 04-24-2005, 09:50 AM   #27
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No thanx for me ... I'm really not interseted in problems that could bring you on long term .
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Old 04-24-2005, 10:23 AM   #28
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Has anyone received their "First Data" money yet? I'm just curious because I'm still waiting on mine even though I signed that stupid agreement.

I have received my FD money owed which is like 61% of reserves (from I think April 04-Sept 04) and it also included one weeks worth of transactions.

Ibill owes from Sept 23rd 04 to current plus the remainder 39% of reserves that FD didn't have (because Ibill keeps that portion of reserves). They have paid on some of the gkard transactions in the last 6 weeks.

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